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#1 ChicagoRonin70

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 05:49 PM

Over a year ago, Meg Fellenbaum was speciously arrested in New Jersey for having her legally owned, permitted (from Pennsylvania) concealed carry handgun locked in her trunk as she drove into NJ to meet her girlfriend. After being treated like an animal, denied basic hygiene necessities in lockup, and the NJ court system stacking the deck against her by not allowing her lawyers access to police records or arrest videos, the anti-firearm idiots running the New Jersey judicial system have essentially coerced her into a plea deal to avoid a 13-year sentence for daring to exercise her Constitutional right to self-protection.
 
She's going to serve one year in prison, when she did literally nothing wrong.
 
Here is the link to the web page to lend both support and the information on how to advocate for her to be pardoned by the governor of New Jersey:
 
 
Whether you support queer folk or not, this entire situation is a (bad) example of governmental overreach and persecution of an innocent individual who is being victimized by a state literally violating the Constitution to prosecute and persecute her. So, donate and/or add your voice to the effort to get her freed and pardoned.
 
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 05:57 PM

Didn’t this same thing happen to another woman a while back and it got tossed out?

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 06:27 PM

Didn’t this same thing happen to another woman a while back and it got tossed out?

 

Shaneen Allen was an African-American woman who got pardoned by Chris Christie back in 2015. That's what needs to happen with Meg Fellenbaum's case, which is why people need to donate to her legal defense fund through the NJ2AS and contact Christie to urge him to pardon her.


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

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“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 06:31 PM

Here is Christie's contact email start with subject "corrections' then on the next page there is a sub subject of Pardon / Clemency.  Email and tell him to pardon her.


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 06:39 PM

Here is Christie's contact email start with subject "corrections' then on the next page there is a sub subject of Pardon / Clemency.  Email and tell him to pardon her.

 

Much appreciated! The NJ2AS link neglects to include that; they just have the physical contact information and phone number.


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 08:37 PM

Didn’t this same thing happen to another woman a while back and it got tossed out?

 
Shaneen Allen was an African-American woman who got pardoned by Chris Christie back in 2015. That's what needs to happen with Meg Fellenbaum's case, which is why people need to donate to her legal defense fund through the NJ2AS and contact Christie to urge him to pardon her.
He conveniently pardoned her right before attempting to run for president. If he doesn't pardon this woman he will go down as even a bigger POS then he already is.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:27 PM

And why didn't she call the 2AF or NRA?   This would be a PERFECT case for them!


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:39 PM

And why didn't she call the 2AF or NRA?   This would be a PERFECT case for them!

I'm pretty sure the NRA published press releases on this case. Every gun blog did. I donated when this first hit.

Christy is an awful human being for not taking up the cause in the lame duck months of his reign. He'd rather complain about the new governer posing with his fat a** cutout on the beach after he closed down all the public beaches for funding gaps.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:20 AM

NJ continues to be the cesspit of America.  They continue to destroy people's lives who have done nothing wrong.  Shaneen's pardon was probably the one good thing that happened b/c of Christie's run for President.  He's not a fan of the 2nd amendment, so I really doubt he would treat Meg fairly.  He only saved Shaneen so he could appeal to 2a-supporters in the primary...


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 11:06 AM

A cautionary tale. A licensee cannot be ignorant of different state laws and the attitudes of a different state. Carrying a weapon also requires greater diligence and responsibility, IMO.
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 11:22 AM

Guessing she had a bad Attorney.

Without actually being in her shoes, I’m thinking I would have fought it all the way and gone for jury nullification.
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 01:28 PM

Guessing she had a bad Attorney.
Without actually being in her shoes, Im thinking I would have fought it all the way and gone for jury nullification.

Certain corruption and corrupt ideology tends to run all the way into the legal system in a state. I doubt the attorney would of mattered. New York and New Jersey are rediculously over the top in the prosecution of these cases. They want to make examples of the most law abiding citizens possible to show that their stupid laws are not to be broken.

There are a ton of cases in these states where people, who everywhere else in the country would be considered legally transporting are breaking the law in New York and New Jersey. By plane or by car.

I don't know how New Jersey is, but if the ammo is in close proximity of the gun, like in the magazine of a TSA approved locked case as soon as you touch that case you are in possession of a loaded gun in New York.

If your flight is ever diverted to New Jersey or New York and you have a legally declared firearm refuse possession of it. Tell the airline to deal with it. As soon as you touch your TSA checked locked box you're now illegally in possession on NY or NJ soil. And they do prosecute to the fullest extent

See Gregg C. Revell v. Port Authority of New York and New Jersey for another example.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 04:59 PM

Email to the Governor sent.


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Posted 23 December 2017 - 10:59 PM

It is incidents such as this one that have made me decide to NEVER go to any state, or through, any state that does not allow me to lawfully carry my firearm. Same thing with leaving the country. If I ever acquire an absurdly large amount of money, I may hire a ruthless legal team to represent me, and then challenge laws such as these, as preemptively as possible, just for the sake of spitting in the eyes of idiots like the ones who did this. I don't plan on leaving any inheritance to anyone, so I might as well put the money to a good use.


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Posted 24 December 2017 - 10:33 AM

We are seeing case after case of this happening.

 

Yet nobody calls the NRA or 2AF.     And even if nobody did, the 2AF and NRA couldn't contact them or their attorneys?   Or show up on their court dates and talk to them?    This information is not top secret stuff, easily obtainable from searching case documents.

 

There's no excuse for these two totalitarian states to have such horrific gun laws.    They should have been struck down ages ago. 


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Posted 24 December 2017 - 10:34 AM

Also, how many people on this thread will email the 2AF?  info@saf.org  or the NRA?  https://contact.nra....contact-us.aspx

And yes, I've already done that.  Will you?


Edited by BobPistol, 24 December 2017 - 10:39 AM.

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 04:14 PM

This is exactly why we need national reciprocity. People who are completely innocent of any malice are being turned into felons.



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:02 AM

This is exactly why we need national reciprocity. People who are completely innocent of any malice are being turned into felons.

Agreed. Now let's get it done!


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Posted 30 December 2017 - 08:53 PM

Looks like they snagged another one... http://www.nj.com/hu...oaded_hand.html
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Posted 31 December 2017 - 04:31 PM

So, seeing a CC license becomes probable cause to conduct a search?

And it's OK to have an unloaded firearm locked in the trunk? I bet you would still take the ride.

No way would I ever even think about taking a gun to NJ (or NY).
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Posted 31 December 2017 - 07:55 PM

So, seeing a CC license becomes probable cause to conduct a search?
And it's OK to have an unloaded firearm locked in the trunk? I bet you would still take the ride.
No way would I ever even think about taking a gun to NJ (or NY).


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 02:23 PM

I love it when "state's rights" means "We oppose the Federal Government becoming totalitarian, we want the states to have the right to become totalitarian."


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 07:10 PM

I love it when "state's rights" means "We oppose the Federal Government becoming totalitarian, we want the states to have the right to become totalitarian."

That's pretty much how it was before the 14th Amendment. Before that, and before incorporation, the Bill of Rights only restricted Congress not the states.
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:53 PM

The 14th Amendment does more than just restrict Congress...

It gives Congress the power to enact national Law to protect the rights of citizens to freely travel between the various States.

Section five of the Amendment grants Congress âthe power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.â

To quote... âIt (âinterstate travelâ)is âa virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all,â the Supreme Court said in Sáenz v. Roe (1999). The Sáenz court explained that travelers have the âright to be treated as a welcome visitor rather than an unfriendly alien when temporarily present in the second state.ââ

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 12:37 PM

http://www.thetrutha...gun-conviction/

Christie Cream granted her a pardon. Still rediculous you have to beg for a pardon from the governor for something this punitive.

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 02:35 PM

http://www.thetrutha...gun-conviction/

Christie Cream granted her a pardon. Still rediculous you have to beg for a pardon from the governor for something this punitive.

 

Yes, I know, isn't that wonderful? But, yes, also stupid that it even was necessary!


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