WtJen Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:01 PM Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:01 PM Since I'm sort of new to 9mm's, I was in Rural King today and saw Winchester 9mm NATO FMJ, 124 grain. Since I've bought my Beretta Nano, I've been using Winchester 9mm Luger FMJ. There was a warning on the side of the box for the 9mm NATO that its loaded to 10% higher pressure than Luger. Wanting to be safe, I looked at several websites and read that basically all modern 9mm pistols can handle either one. What is the consensus here on the difference, if any between the two types of rounds? Since this Rural King has no box limit, I'm going to buy all they have unless there is something I need to know about on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJSum1 Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:06 PM Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:06 PM 9mm NATO ammunition is loaded to the same specifications currently used by our U.S. Military. The higher pressure in these rounds deliver increased velocity and energy over standard 9mm ammunition, which also promotes reliable cycling in modern 9mm semi-auto handguns as well as carbines. Use only in modern 9mm firearms in good condition. These Cartridges are loaded to military velocity and pressure which is higher than 9mm Luger cartridges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:08 PM Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:08 PM the nato will usually have a crimped primer pocket. if your gun is not +p rated i would not run 9mm nato in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WtJen Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:10 PM Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:10 PM 9mm NATO ammunition is loaded to the same specifications currently used by our U.S. Military. The higher pressure in these rounds deliver increased velocity and energy over standard 9mm ammunition, which also promotes reliable cycling in modern 9mm semi-auto handguns as well as carbines. Use only in modern 9mm firearms in good condition. These Cartridges are loaded to military velocity and pressure which is higher than 9mm Luger cartridges That is precisely what was written on the box but what does it mean really? Does a modern 9mm pistol have any issues with using it as opposed to using 9mm Luger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WtJen Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:14 PM Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:14 PM the nato will usually have a crimped primer pocket. if your gun is not +p rated i would not run 9mm nato in it. The Beretta website only says that using +P can reduce the component life of the pistol not that it is prohibited. I do not believe 9mm NATO is loaded to +P pressures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorvinion Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:17 PM Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:17 PM Most people don't shoot enough to notice any reduction in its useful life. More important to just make sure that the pistol can fire +P safely and that it remain in good working order. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:20 PM Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:20 PM Just make sure you don't use +P+ Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJSum1 Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:26 PM Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 05:26 PM 9mm ammo, for example, must have a pressure averaging no greater than 35,000 psi. 9mm +p must be no greater than 38,500 psi. I have seen where NATO spec for 9mm is 42,000 psi. This may be +p ammo (hot ammo) but as Mr Fife stated, +p+ should be avoided in my opinion, While this may offer little confidence, I doubt that Winchester would make ammo so powerful as to make your pistol blow up in your face. It's just bad for business. Check this out too http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=40018&hl=nato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobapunk Posted October 23, 2013 at 06:56 PM Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 06:56 PM 9mm Nato: 124gr bullet, higher pressure charge, crimped and sealed primers 9mm Luger: 115gr bullet (usually), standard pressure charge, no crimp - no sealant on the primers I don't think your nano will mind the NATO load, but you will probably notice a little more recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8IL Posted October 23, 2013 at 07:29 PM Share Posted October 23, 2013 at 07:29 PM I've run 147+p in a nano. I loved the fireballs coming out of it. I think you'll be fine with nato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted October 24, 2013 at 02:15 AM Share Posted October 24, 2013 at 02:15 AM A non-issue. Shoot it and enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WtJen Posted October 24, 2013 at 02:48 AM Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 at 02:48 AM Thanks for the responses. I'm going to give it a whirl and see if there is any appreciable recoil difference between my regular Winchester Luger 9mm and this Winchester 9mm Nato. According to the velocity and foot-pounds on the box, there isn't much difference between the two types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted October 24, 2013 at 05:40 PM Share Posted October 24, 2013 at 05:40 PM NATO loads are just like +P more or less. I put quite a few 9mm NATO rounds through my Sig P226 and there's a noticable difference in kick. Otherwise they're basically the same. Actually when it comes to 9mm rounds (and I don't even own that Sig anymore) I like the NATO rounds for range shooting. My groupings were always better with the Win 9mm NATO vs. WWB 9mm Luger (or Federal Champion, Rem UMC). Sent from my SCH-R530U using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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