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#1 Ash2323

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 08:58 AM

Never thought that a foid appeal would take longer then a year smfh.....i dont understand how hard it is to look at the appeal see there was no conviction and reinstate my foid card.....the wait time sucks and its sad that there is nothing that can be done to get an answer....except the obvious answer of its still in the appeals process there is no time frame on when its going to be looked at what kind of **** is that, seriously thinking about calling them and telling them to cancel the appeal i dont even want the foid/ccl back if its taking over a year god only knows how long its going to take

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 02:11 PM

Sad that it's just the way things are in this *expletive deleted* state but no reason to cancel your appeal unless you just want to bring them some joy.
I can imagine them laughing and high 5'ing each other when they end your call.

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Posted 01 August 2018 - 09:06 AM

Send a PM to Molly, she is the goddess of appeals (and all things FOID and FCCL).  Maybe she can find out what the delay is or better yet light a fire under someone.


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#4 Ash2323

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 10:02 AM

Sent a pm to molly couple of times she has tried but nothing yet this sate is a sad case and isp sucks

#5 SDF678

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 07:02 PM

I have a question for everyone.

What is the longest amount of time that the ISP has kept a FOID card appeal in limbo? Do they finally give in after 2 years, 3 years? Really, how can they justify never taking action on an appeal?

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 10:13 PM

My appeal took exactly 6 months and a friend of mine had his take a year. Both denials were for the same case 20 years prior that were reported to the state incorrectly.
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  • Total days - 180 days
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  • 08 June 2016 - TCN invalid
  • 13 June 2016 - TCN valid
  • 20 June 2016 - Approved
  • 27 June 2016 - Active
  • 29 June 2016 - Received CCL in the mail
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#7 Kingcreek

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 09:19 AM

Ash, you should call your state rep and state senators offices and get them involved. Also call the governors office.

A few years ago my app was in but I had not received my new card before expiration of the old one. I called my state rep and a rep of a neighboring district that I knew was pro gun, and I called the governors office. I called them all every day. I called the ISP and was told just to keep my guns locked up and unloaded and don't use them or transport them or anything. I told them that was UNNACCEPTABLE. After they started hearing from reps and the governors office, they suddenly found time to process my app!

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 09:50 AM

I called the ISP and was told just to keep my guns locked up and unloaded and don't use them or transport them or anything.


Same response I received when I had called and expiration was near.
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#9 Hydeparkaneakers

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Posted 01 September 2018 - 08:48 AM

I filed my appeal on 4/4/18 and no word back. When I call they repeat the same thing. It's under review. My foid got revoked when I applied for my CCL. They said I had a juvenile record. I got it expunged and been waiting.I need my foid for work and been suffering every since. Wow

#10 SDF678

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 09:18 PM

Well everyone in a couple days my FOID appeal will have been filed 18 months ago.

 

So a question. What is involved in the appeal process on the ISP side? Let me explain what I am asking.

 

Mr ISP employee grabs a FOID appeal packet from the stack. What does he do with it? I would think he runs a criminal background check on the person. Does he call the people that wrote the letters of reference? Does he make sure you have completed any sentence you may have been given? Does he check the validity of the information you sent in?  What else?

 

From the IL codes it would appear that four items are listed that you must satisfy for a FOID appeal to be successful. Why does this take so long? Seems this is very cut and dry. How many actual ISP employees are actually involved in looking at your appeal?

 

I know what I sent in. I do not understand why looking at the information, checking it and making a determination based on written law takes so long.



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Posted 05 September 2018 - 08:29 AM

Well everyone in a couple days my FOID appeal will have been filed 18 months ago.
 
So a question. What is involved in the appeal process on the ISP side? Let me explain what I am asking.
 
Mr ISP employee grabs a FOID appeal packet from the stack. What does he do with it? I would think he runs a criminal background check on the person. Does he call the people that wrote the letters of reference? Does he make sure you have completed any sentence you may have been given? Does he check the validity of the information you sent in?  What else?
 
From the IL codes it would appear that four items are listed that you must satisfy for a FOID appeal to be successful. Why does this take so long? Seems this is very cut and dry. How many actual ISP employees are actually involved in looking at your appeal?
 
I know what I sent in. I do not understand why looking at the information, checking it and making a determination based on written law takes so long.

Have you called your state rep, state senator, and governors office? Keep calling and complaining to them! Your file is buried in the stack and long forgotten. Waiting patiently obviously isn't working for you.
After a few calls from the governors office, state reps etc to ISP, someone at the isp-fab will almost magically locate your buried file, look at it, and approve it if everything is in order.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 07:16 PM

I have spoken with my State Rep. He has spoken with the Governor's office and the ISP multiple times. He said the ISP blew him off. I have spoken with the Governor's office. I sent a letter to the Governor's office. I sent a letter to the ISP. I paid a local attorney to check into this. The attorney wrote a letter and has made multiple phone calls to the ISP. No response to the attorney. Molly has spoken to the ISP and the Governor's office back in early July. I am told my appeal was brought to the attention of both.



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Posted 06 September 2018 - 09:43 AM

Time to bring out the big guns (pardon the pun)...  send a PM to Molly.  She will light a fire under someone's butt and make it happen. 


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Posted 06 September 2018 - 12:25 PM

Molly and I have gone back and forth for probably over a year now. She has gone above and beyond what should be necessary to resolve this situation.



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Posted 07 September 2018 - 02:09 PM

I got my foid renewal letter today, and just completed the online renewal process. Just posting to start the clock ticking. Luckily there was a convenience fee of only 1 dollar that saved me from just paying with cash.
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Posted 06 October 2018 - 07:25 AM

Applied 9/7/18 Website says issued on 9/28/2018 Nothing in the mail yet.
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Posted 06 October 2018 - 12:29 PM

I posted too soon. It arrived today.
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Posted 06 October 2018 - 05:25 PM

Seven months for me on the appeal it's terrible that we all have to go through this it doesn't have to be this way they could fix the problems if they wanted to but they won't. I just believe the don't want gun owners they simply don't care if they did they would of had this fixed.

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Posted 06 October 2018 - 06:05 PM

I got my foid renewal letter today, and just completed the online renewal process. Just posting to start the clock ticking.

Luckily there was a convenience fee of only 1 dollar that saved me from just paying with cash.

How...convenient...
How does the state manage to put a price on convenience...yet they manage to do so. ;-)

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#20 Novakj126

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 01:31 PM

Over a year for me as well. Same situation. I will probably be moved to Indiana before it even gets reinstated at this point lol.



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Posted 22 October 2018 - 07:31 PM

My wait is over 19 months now.



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Posted 23 October 2018 - 07:39 AM

These wait times are ridiculous we must do something, anything to make our wait time shorter. ISP is doing this on purpose I could literly do several in one day it does not take this long for a appeal. This really ticks me off but I'm sure it's what the ISP wants.

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 09:18 AM

These wait times are ridiculous we must do something, anything to make our wait time shorter. ISP is doing this on purpose I could literly do several in one day it does not take this long for a appeal. This really ticks me off but I'm sure it's what the ISP wants.

We need Rauner reelected. The board has made progress. But if Pritzker is elected and gets to appoint a new board in January, who knows what will happen.
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Posted 23 October 2018 - 12:27 PM

I'm voting for Rauner for sure I hope to God he wins because if Pritzger gets elected in I'm sure I will never get my gun rights restored.

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 03:05 PM

I still want to know more about behind the scenes to process a FOID appeal.

 

How many people are working on appeals?

How many man hours per week are spent working on appeals?

What EXACTLY happens when an appeal packet is picked up off the pile?

How many man hours does it take to process an appeal?

What is the name of the person that has the final say either yes or no to a FOID appeal?

 

This is not national security. Taxpayer funds are being used. The ISP is a taxpayer funded organization. Taxpayers, you and I, have a right to know how our money is being spent.



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Posted 30 October 2018 - 09:24 PM

Nearly 20 months in the appeal process and over 2 years since I first applied for my FOID but I am active now on the ISP website.

 

I lack the vocabulary to express how happy I am. Over 25 years have gone by since I last had a FOID card.



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Posted 31 October 2018 - 06:57 PM

Nearly 20 months in the appeal process and over 2 years since I first applied for my FOID but I am active now on the ISP website.

 

I lack the vocabulary to express how happy I am. Over 25 years have gone by since I last had a FOID card.

 

Congrats. I'm at about 13-14 months and hoping I don't reach the 20 month mark. Is there anything you did to speed up the process other than reaching out to Molly B? Please message me if you think you could help. Thank you.






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