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#1 richp

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:24 PM

Hi,

I've been out of town most of the summer with limited internet access, so perhaps I've missed it in all the flurry of litigation reports. Is there a challenge contained in any of these lawsuits to the Chicago laser sight ban?

Seems that if you wanted to enhance accuracy (and thereby public safety) you wouldn't ban an accessory that promotes that exact outcome.

Anyone know?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 03:25 PM

I would also like top see the laser ban overturned. Right now my bullet would need to find its target by dead reckoning. While my aim is very good under ideal conditions at the range, it may be difficult to be as good under stress conditions outside of the range.
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Posted 31 July 2011 - 05:25 PM

Both of my carry pieces (outside of Illinois) have laser sights. I have much better weapons, but the ones I actually carry are:

  • A Ruger LCP with a Crimson Trace Laser guard.
  • A Ruger LCR with a Crimson Trace Laser grip.
I keep the LCR in my Maxpedition Versa Pack. (Man Purse) The LCP is not my favorite because I have really big hands and if I squeeze it too hard the slide will catch me and both cut me and jam.

I have a nice little pocket holster for it though, and it is better than nothing when I don't want to carry the purse.

Why do I choose these? Because in a panic, I could still put a red dot on what I want to hit, and both are very light.
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Posted 31 July 2011 - 08:13 PM

yes it is being challenged
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 12:10 PM

yes it is being challenged


Yep, I believe it is at issue in the Benson v Chicago case.

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Posted 01 August 2011 - 03:54 PM

yes it is being challenged


Yep, I believe it is at issue in the Benson v Chicago case.


I think the "only one firearm may be operable" is part of Benson, as well.
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Posted 01 August 2011 - 05:04 PM

Good cant imagine the Smith and WEsson Bodyguard being banned
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 09:20 AM

I don't even want to bother listening to what their justification is for banning laser sights.

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 09:31 AM

I don't even want to bother listening to what their justification is for banning laser sights.


Laser pointers such as those used in business presentations are also banned in Chicago.
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 09:39 AM

I don't even want to bother listening to what their justification is for banning laser sights.


Laser pointers such as those used in business presentations are also banned in Chicago.


But then with a stick you'll just poke your eye out kid.

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 09:43 AM

Laser pointers such as those used in business presentations are also banned in Chicago.



You have got to be kidding me.....


Every day here puts me more and more in awe.

So if I order a projector for a classroom and many if not most come with a remote with an integrated laser pointer, I have contraband material? Do I have to disable the laser for someone to be able to use the remote/PC control of the projector? What if I remove the button for the laser pointer so that it can only be depressed with a bullet?

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 07:25 PM

I don't even want to bother listening to what their justification is for banning laser sights.


Laser pointers such as those used in business presentations are also banned in Chicago.


I don't believe this is true. I know it is illegal to sell them to minors, and point them at airplanes (state law), but I can find no law stating that possession is illegal.
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Posted 02 August 2011 - 07:42 PM

I don't even want to bother listening to what their justification is for banning laser sights.


Laser pointers such as those used in business presentations are also banned in Chicago.


I don't believe this is true. I know it is illegal to sell them to minors, and point them at airplanes (state law), but I can find no law stating that possession is illegal.


I am not able to prove it is right now and I may be wrong. It was in the Chicago Firearms ordinance... Near the section that required stores selling box cutters, carpet knives and the like in Chicago to keep them under lock and key.

A quick google brought this up, from the Trib/SW side edition re: proposed ordinance in Chicago Ridge;

"April 06, 1999|By Dennis Sullivan.
Village trustees on Monday night tabled an ordinance that would make it illegal to sell or possess laser pointers, including laser sighting devices for guns.
Village President Lou Sherman said the plan to make the sale or possession of laser devices a misdemeanor responds to a written request from Chicago. But he added that Steger police also received complaints from residents about individuals misusing the laser devices by shining the red beams on others."

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Posted 02 August 2011 - 07:51 PM

Near the section that required stores selling box cutters, carpet knives and the like in Chicago to keep them under lock and key.




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Posted 02 August 2011 - 08:02 PM

Here is the local ordinance in my village. :)

5-3-24: LASER POINTERS; SALE AND POSSESSION PROHIBITED:

A. Definitions: For purposes of this section, "laser pointer" shall be any helium neon (HeNe) laser which typically operates at a wavelength of 832.8 nMe with the mandated power limit of 5mW of power. Said lasers are considered Class 2 lasers with the potential for eye injury; and a diode laser which typically operates at a wavelength of 670 nMe (although others are possible) with a power source providing 5mW. Said lasers are considered Class 3a lasers, with the potential for eye injury.

B. Prohibited Acts:

1. It shall be unlawful for any person to have in his or her possession at any private or public place, except as provided herein, a laser pointer.

2. No person, firm or corporation shall sell to or provide a person with a laser pointer as described in this section.

C. Penalty: Any person found guilty of an offense under this section shall be fined not less than seventy five dollars ($75.00) nor more than five hundred dollars ($500.00) for each offense. (Ord. 1055, 5-12-1999)