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#1 Lou

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 01:21 PM

It sounds like we have won over at least one member of the ILGA.




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Chicago Lawmaker Encouraging Concealed Carry
Jul 15, 2019 | nickgale
By Nick Gale, WLS-AM 890 News

(CHICAGO) After another violent weekend that saw eight people killed and at least 32 others wounded, one lawmaker is taking action by encouraging his constituents to arm themselves.

Bullets from a shooting that left a 22-year-old dead in the Austin Neighborhood on the West Side Sunday also found State Rep. La Shawn Fords (D-Chicago) car.

Bullets were also found down the block, lodged in a love seat in a nearby home in the 800 block of North LeClaire Ave.

Ford tells The Mancow Show on WLS-AM 890 that he is encouraging his residents to arm themselves against the violence.

I think about it all the time, Ford said of the shootings that plague his community. Thats why Im working with a concealed carry instructor and were going to go through the neighborhood and were going to encourage people to get their concealed carry license because it makes no sense for people not to have the protections that they need.

The shooting remains under investigation.

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 01:33 PM

Isn't he the rep that introduced legislation to outlaw Terry stops? I suspect he knows (or thinks) that his constituents are already armed.

EDIT: Here it is: HB186

Edited by Euler, 15 July 2019 - 01:37 PM.

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 01:55 PM

It's about time!


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 02:04 PM

Can I have an: Amen!



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 02:27 PM

Good to see the change.... Im sure Groot will get to him soon.


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 02:32 PM

Maybe once his constituents start complaining about a 5 month+ wait there will be some progress made there too.
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Posted 15 July 2019 - 02:34 PM

Isn't he the rep that introduced legislation to outlaw Terry stops? I suspect he knows (or thinks) that his constituents are already armed.

EDIT: Here it is: HB186


I don't think that bill is specifically about gun related stops, but the concept of "carrying for protection" in some areas of Chicago is pretty well accepted.  It's how you get through the day.



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 02:45 PM

Hope his "constituents" can afford the ridiculous fee!


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 03:08 PM

If you want to listen to Ford, its the first podcast on Mancow ( Let's go, let's go, let's rock and roll.)   Move the scale till there is 40:10 left in the show. I cant find a direct link to the podcast.

 

http://www.wlsam.com/mancow/


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 04:07 PM

There is a ray of hope it appears..................



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 05:23 PM

This makes me happy, happy, happy.  Back when we were trying to get CC passed, those of us in Southern Illinois where all of our legislators were already on board, were encouraged to contact some of the NO votes and try to persuade them.  Lashawn Ford was the only one whose response was worthy of further correspondence.  We wrote back and forth several times and each of his emails was considerate and showed he was at least thinking about the issue, not a bit argumentative or belligerant.  Although he ultimately voted with his party, I still felt like perhaps some day he would come around.  


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 05:37 PM

Maybe He'll be more reasonable to opening up the public transportation ban. 



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Posted 15 July 2019 - 05:51 PM

"Can I have an: Amen!"

 

AND a Hallelujah, brother!


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 06:40 PM

Lol, I remember after Concealed Carry became law, he had a town hall about concealed carry in Oak Park at the Little Red Wagon, that later went out of business after they posted that offensive sign. Anyway, when he asked for a show of hands on who owns a gun a would be carrying, he was taken aback to learn there were young ladies on his own staff that did. The look on his face was priceless. Afterwards, Todd and I went across the street to have a drink at the yet unposted Avenue Alehouse. We had a good laugh.
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Posted 15 July 2019 - 06:59 PM

Hope his "constituents" can afford the ridiculous fee!


Maybe he would support legislation to lower the fee so poor minorities would be able to get a LTC. Maybe allow ranges in Chicago so they could train in Chicago.

Maybe he won't support the proposed fee increases and finger prints for the FOID card or just do away with it. We can dream I guess.

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 08:41 PM

 He could do more good by calling out lenient judges who are responsible for violent criminals being released back into Chicago's neighborhoods.


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Posted 16 July 2019 - 08:09 AM

Maybe he can push for Lower Concealed-Carry Fees in

 high crime areas & low income areas.



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Posted 16 July 2019 - 10:00 AM

is this anyone's rep? we should support him on this



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Posted 16 July 2019 - 11:57 AM

Wait a minute here.....forgive me if I'm wrong but..... 

 

Wasn't LaShawn Ford the rep that made all kinds of "Gee, I'm thinking of throwing my support in with all you guys for this pro gun thing now" noises a couple of years ago.....

 

Then showed his true colors when he became one of the many many voices proclaiming that guns are bad and we have to make up laws against them. 

 

Some in IllinoisCarry were taken in my his original 'leaning' toward conceal carry at first, then felt betrayed. This latest soundbite sounds and feels familiar.

 

Lie to me once, shame on you. Lie to me twice, shame on me.

 

I've been known to send a check to a politician outside my district because of their positions and views. But supporting this t*%d in a three piece suit will have to wait until I see him actually walking ALL his constituents into a class and fronting their class fees himself. After he proves that HE (and every member of his family and political staff) carries everyday. Until then, all this is just political theater.


Edited by Kaeghl, 16 July 2019 - 12:02 PM.


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Posted 16 July 2019 - 12:14 PM

Yea,as much as I would like to,I cannot get excited based on a politicians words.talk is indeed cheap.let's just see if he acts,and possibly other impoverished,high crime wards follow suit.

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 04:08 PM

He's wrong. If you just disarmed the suburbanites, his constituents will be safe. Obviously purple LOL

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Posted 16 July 2019 - 04:29 PM

Yes by all means, let's bash someone who could potentially be an ally in echo chambers that we're not invited to who might float a reasonable objection to 'common sense gun control'.  Let's turn a potentially red pilled gun enthusiast into an educated enemy. yeah that'll help our cause....


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Posted 16 July 2019 - 08:16 PM

is this anyone's rep? we should support him on this

I have a friend who has worked with him on permitting issues in that ward before. She's not particularly pro-gun though. I can reach out.



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Posted 16 July 2019 - 09:16 PM

This is just my gut reaction... I think maybe this guy finally gets it.

The comments about his constituents not being able to afford their second amendment rights are dead on... this is an opportunity to start some serious discussion (on the Democrat side) about reducing the financial barrier to concealed carry.

In Illinois, the people in the most danger are the least likely to be able to afford this civil right. This needs to change.

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Posted 17 July 2019 - 07:54 AM

Since public transportation puts everyone at risk, perhaps one day it will dawn on the elected idiiots in Springpatch to remove the carry barrier on those conveyances? Nah.....I'm just idle dreaming. But hey, I've been a law-abiding concealed carrier here in Illinois for over 5 years now and for near 65 years THAT was an idle dream of mine too.


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Posted 17 July 2019 - 07:55 AM

This is just my gut reaction... I think maybe this guy finally gets it.

The comments about his constituents not being able to afford their second amendment rights are dead on... this is an opportunity to start some serious discussion (on the Democrat side) about reducing the financial barrier to concealed carry.

In Illinois, the people in the most danger are the least likely to be able to afford this civil right. This needs to change.


I wonder if there is any state that has lowered their fee for a LTC? Going constitutional carry of course eliminates the LTC and the fee that needed to be paid. Maybe a "special needs" LTC could be available to those who had an order of protection, at a low cost and without a training requirement?

Here's a radical thought allow someone with an order of protection carry if they have a Utah non-resident LTC. It has a classroom component on gun information . It also is recognized in many states. I doubt of course that that would happen as Illinois would lose revenue to Utah.

Edited by junglebob, 17 July 2019 - 08:11 AM.

Disarming the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them. George Mason

Though defensive violence will always be a sad necessity in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrong doers should dominate just men.  -  Augustine

Three school masacres have been stopped by civilians with firearms. Two with handguns and the third by a guy with a shotgun. (Pearl, Ms; Appalacian School of Law; Edinboro,Pa)


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Posted 17 July 2019 - 08:30 AM

This is just my gut reaction... I think maybe this guy finally gets it.

The comments about his constituents not being able to afford their second amendment rights are dead on... this is an opportunity to start some serious discussion (on the Democrat side) about reducing the financial barrier to concealed carry.

In Illinois, the people in the most danger are the least likely to be able to afford this civil right. This needs to change.


I wonder if there is any state that has lowered their fee for a LTC? Going constitutional carry of course eliminates the LTC and the fee that needed to be paid. Maybe a "special needs" LTC could be available to those who had an order of protection, at a low cost and without a training requirement?

We'll see if Ford is changing his position on guns when we see how he votes on gun legislation that comes up. Or is it just talk?

Here's a radical thought allow someone with an order of protection carry if they have a Utah non-resident LTC. It has a classroom component on gun information . It also is recognized in many states. I doubt of course that that would happen as Illinois would lose revenue to Utah.


Disarming the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them. George Mason

Though defensive violence will always be a sad necessity in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrong doers should dominate just men.  -  Augustine

Three school masacres have been stopped by civilians with firearms. Two with handguns and the third by a guy with a shotgun. (Pearl, Ms; Appalacian School of Law; Edinboro,Pa)


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Posted 17 July 2019 - 10:52 AM

This is just my gut reaction... I think maybe this guy finally gets it.

Oh, he's for real this time. Someone shot up his whip.


The problem here is that just having a gun when things get bad isn't the solution. You need the gun before things get bad. You need to learn to use it. You need to train. For self defense, you need to be willing to use it when necessary and unwilling to use it when not necessary. Simply handing out FOIDs and Tauruses won't cut it.

Edited by RS1, 17 July 2019 - 10:53 AM.


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Posted 17 July 2019 - 11:20 AM

I was thinking when the Chicago area democrat legislators talk about raising the FOID card fee to $50 for 5 years maybe we can get Mr. Ford to come out in opposition to it since it will affect the ability of the poor to get a FOID card as will requiring finger prints, or going to an ISP office.

Edited by junglebob, 17 July 2019 - 11:37 AM.

Disarming the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them. George Mason

Though defensive violence will always be a sad necessity in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrong doers should dominate just men.  -  Augustine

Three school masacres have been stopped by civilians with firearms. Two with handguns and the third by a guy with a shotgun. (Pearl, Ms; Appalacian School of Law; Edinboro,Pa)


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Posted 17 July 2019 - 11:48 AM

 

This is just my gut reaction... I think maybe this guy finally gets it.

The comments about his constituents not being able to afford their second amendment rights are dead on... this is an opportunity to start some serious discussion (on the Democrat side) about reducing the financial barrier to concealed carry.

In Illinois, the people in the most danger are the least likely to be able to afford this civil right. This needs to change.


I wonder if there is any state that has lowered their fee for a LTC? Going constitutional carry of course eliminates the LTC and the fee that needed to be paid. Maybe a "special needs" LTC could be available to those who had an order of protection, at a low cost and without a training requirement?

Here's a radical thought allow someone with an order of protection carry if they have a Utah non-resident LTC. It has a classroom component on gun information . It also is recognized in many states. I doubt of course that that would happen as Illinois would lose revenue to Utah.

 

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