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mauserme Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:31 AM Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:31 AM .Today is the final day scheduled for the 2017 Fall Veto Session. Only the Senate will be in session as the House finished its business yesterday.The list of Senate bills we're watching is one bill shorter today. The legislature's allotted time to override the SB315 FOID Explosive Components veto has expired. The veto stands.The remaining bills in the Senate are moot, at least for now. With the House now in recess SB236 ("Assault Weapon" & Trigger Modification Ban), even if passed out of the Senate, will find no one in the House to read it into the record. And SB333 (SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing Trailer Bill) proposes to modify SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing only if SB1675 becomes law, which it cannot without a House vote.The Senate is scheduled for 11:30 AM today. The House is not in.Next Days ScheduledHouse: 1/23/2018Senate: 1/30/2018Senate Calendar Senate Supplemental Calendar 1 .adjustment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:32 AM Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:32 AM . Senate Calendar11:30 AM SB236 ("Assault Weapon" & Trigger Modification Ban) Oppose Senate Amendment 1 Sponsor: Morrison, Muñoz Status: Amendment 1 In Senate Judiciary Committee Senate Amendment 1 - Pending Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes it unlawful to deliver, sell, or purchase or cause to be delivered, sold, or purchased or cause to be possessed by another, an assault weapon or assault weapon attachment. Makes it unlawful for any person to knowingly possess an assault weapon 300 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act, except possession of weapons registered with the State Police in the time provided. Provides exemptions and penalties. Prohibits delivery, sale, purchase, or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices. Provides exemptions and penalties. Prohibits the knowing sale, manufacture, purchase, possession, or carrying of a trigger modification device. Defines terms. Effective immediately. SB333 (SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing Trailer Bill) Oppose Senate Sponsor: Harmon Status: Third Reading Senate Amendment 1 - Approved in Committee Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Provides that if and only if Senate Bill 1657 of the 100th General Assembly becomes law in the form in which it passed the Senate on April 27, 2017, then the Gun Dealer Licensing Act is amended by providing that the requirement that a licensee who operates the business at a permanent physical location that is open to the public, that location shall be equipped with a video surveillance system sufficient to monitor the critical areas of the business premises, including, but not limited to, all places where firearms are stored, handled, sold, transferred, or carried does not take effect until January 1, 2021, provides the expiration date and renewal period for each license shall be 5 years, and provides that an application fee or renewal fee for a dealership license or a dealer license shall not exceed $1,000 for the 5-year period. Effective upon Senate Bill 1657 of the 100th General Assembly becoming law. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:32 AM Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:32 AM · Hidden by mauserme, November 9, 2017 at 03:32 AM - No reason given Hidden by mauserme, November 9, 2017 at 03:32 AM - No reason given Reserved Link to comment
mauserme Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:35 AM Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:35 AM · Hidden by mauserme, November 9, 2017 at 03:36 AM - No reason given Hidden by mauserme, November 9, 2017 at 03:36 AM - No reason given . Today is the final day scheduled for the 2017 Fall Veto Session. Only the Senate will be in session as the House finished its business yesterday. The list of Senate bills we're watching is one bill shorter today. The legislature's allotted time to override the SB315 FOID Explosive Components veto has expired. The veto stands. The remaining bills in the Senate are moot, at least for now. With the House now in recess SB236 ("Assault Weapon" & Trigger Modification Ban), even if passed out of the Senate, will find no one in the House to read it into the record. And SB333 (SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing Trailer Bill) proposes to modify SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing only if SB1675 becomes law, which it cannot without a House vote. The Senate is scheduled for 11:30 AM today. The House is not in. Next Days Scheduled House: 1/23/2018 Senate: 1/23/2018 ? Senate Calendar . . adjustment Link to comment
Patriots & Tyrants Posted November 9, 2017 at 01:33 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 01:33 PM Another year, no major progress on our 2A rights but no major setbacks. All's quiet on the Western Front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted November 9, 2017 at 02:10 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 02:10 PM I am asking this JUST TO BE SURE: SB1657 is totally door nail dead, the horrible vote that got it out of the senate - the anti-gun vote done by the (expletive self-deleted) Republican appointee Senator Tom Rooney of the 27th District counts for NOTHING legislatively any more. This also acknowledges that they could pour the EXACT same language into a NEW bill and try it again next session. But they have to start out fresh with all new votes, also with a looming election. Right? Remember to remind APPOINTED Sen Tom Rooney how his brain fart stirred up a gun owner's hornet nest at end of session. Thank him appropriately for all the angst and adrenaline he cost us. Just don't put an anti-gun Democrat into that seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregivq Posted November 9, 2017 at 02:20 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 02:20 PM Another year, no major progress on our 2A rights but no major setbacks. All's quiet on the Western Front.At this time we made it out okay in my eyes. This is especially true considering that we're ground zero for the antis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:19 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:19 PM Another year, no major progress on our 2A rights but no major setbacks. All's quiet on the Western Front. You need to remember our "ground game" from the last decade or more. VERY aggressive and ARDUOUS defense. A few precious advances. And remember that the concealed carry license was a legislative anomaly - NOT a "change of sky".Many things came together "just right" to set the stage.The federal courts.Downstate voters that WOULDN'T throw Chicago gunowners under the bus.Downstate voters who were primed to SERIOUSLY endanger Madigan's majority status.THAT'S what got us here. As long as Madigan and the anti's can stick their "thumb on the scale" legislatively to block our bills from a fair hearing, this will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:59 PM Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 03:59 PM I am asking this JUST TO BE SURE: SB1657 is totally door nail dead, the horrible vote that got it out of the senate - the anti-gun vote done by the (expletive self-deleted) Republican appointee Senator Tom Rooney of the 27th District counts for NOTHING legislatively any more. This also acknowledges that they could pour the EXACT same language into a NEW bill and try it again next session. But they have to start out fresh with all new votes, also with a looming election. Right? Remember to remind APPOINTED Sen Tom Rooney how his brain fart stirred up a gun owner's hornet nest at end of session. Thank him appropriately for all the angst and adrenaline he cost us. Just don't put an anti-gun Democrat into that seat. Door nail dead? No. Other avenues might be more likely but SB1657 isn't door nail dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted November 9, 2017 at 04:35 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 04:35 PM I am asking this JUST TO BE SURE: SB1657 is totally door nail dead, the horrible vote that got it out of the senate - the anti-gun vote counts for NOTHING legislatively any more. This also acknowledges that they could pour the EXACT same language into a NEW bill and try it again next session.But they have to start out fresh with all new votes, also with a looming election. Right? Door nail dead?No. Other avenues might be more likely but SB1657 isn't door nail dead.I think Mark had the same question as me: With the 2 year period of the 100th General Assembly, do bills submitted and not passed within a Legislative calendar year (jan-Jan) retain their current status (e.g. out of committee, passed in one chamber, only needing 3rd reading in other, etc) or do they start anew with filing, committees, and such. It sounds like they will retain current status until action taken or until the end of the 2 year GA? Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 9, 2017 at 05:11 PM Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 05:11 PM I expect the bill to be referred back to the House Rules Committee after the deadline extension passes. If they want to run the same bill again it's possible for it to come out of Rules and go right to the floor, or it could go through substantive committee again. There are other things they could do, too, but I don't want to outline them here. I'm sure they're weighing their options at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 9, 2017 at 05:34 PM Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 05:34 PM The Senate is coming to order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 9, 2017 at 06:41 PM Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 06:41 PM Senate Supplemental Calendar 1 is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcc Posted November 9, 2017 at 07:28 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 07:28 PM Door nail dead? No. Other avenues might be more likely but SB1657 isn't door nail dead. I agree 100%. Especially when they will have new sessions and new bills to introduce. To think the anti-gunners are not going to reintroduce bills is very incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 9, 2017 at 07:51 PM Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 07:51 PM The Senate stands adjourned until 1/30/2018 @ 12:00 Noon. None of the bills we've been watching were taken up today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted November 9, 2017 at 08:38 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 08:38 PM sigh of relief -- for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted November 9, 2017 at 08:44 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 08:44 PM And freedom and liberty are safe in Illinois for another 10 weeks or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted November 9, 2017 at 08:50 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 08:50 PM And Mauser gets to take a VACATION! Thanks SOOOOO Much for everything!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDoctor Posted November 9, 2017 at 09:18 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 09:18 PM And Mauser gets to take a VACATION! Thanks SOOOOO Much for everything!!!My thoughts as well. I could not do what mauserme does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted November 9, 2017 at 10:07 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 10:07 PM Agreed Cheers to Mauserme! Mauser, Your efforts to keep everybody here informed and on point are very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted November 9, 2017 at 10:32 PM Share Posted November 9, 2017 at 10:32 PM Thanks for all you do Mauser, The Rowe's, and all of the good guys here on IC. Best Pro2a forum ever. Enjoy the time off and relax. Todd V, if you're reading this, same to you kind sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted November 10, 2017 at 03:03 AM Share Posted November 10, 2017 at 03:03 AM More than likely gun dealer licensing will be rewritten to get more support in the house and reintroduced next session. It will be more dangers next go-round. It shall be a real test for the next NRA lobbyist. Baptism by fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 10, 2017 at 07:52 PM Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 at 07:52 PM As expected, SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing was referred back to the House Rules Committee today. We'll be watching, of course, for their next move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted November 10, 2017 at 09:01 PM Share Posted November 10, 2017 at 09:01 PM As expected, SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing was referred back to the House Rules Committee today. We'll be watching, of course, for their next move.Aahhh. The House Rules Committee. No bill can become law in Illinois without passing through that committee. Speaker Madigan Rules that Committee. No bill can become law in Illinois without Speaker Madigans express approval Not just one party government but one person government. I.e. a dictatorship. \rant mode off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted November 11, 2017 at 01:43 AM Share Posted November 11, 2017 at 01:43 AM All bills that pass their "Final Action Deadline" dates in the House go back to Rules, until the end of the current GA, which will be Jan 1 2019. So this bill got no special treatment in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted November 11, 2017 at 04:10 PM Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 at 04:10 PM As expected, SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing was referred back to the House Rules Committee today. We'll be watching, of course, for their next move.Aahhh. The House Rules Committee.No bill can become law in Illinois without passing through that committee.Speaker Madigan Rules that Committee.No bill can become law in Illinois without Speaker Madigans express approval Not just one party government but one person government.I.e. a dictatorship. \rant mode off Maybe it should be the Ruler's Committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted November 11, 2017 at 04:37 PM Share Posted November 11, 2017 at 04:37 PM As expected, SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing was referred back to the House Rules Committee today. We'll be watching, of course, for their next move.Aahhh. The House Rules Committee.No bill can become law in Illinois without passing through that committee.Speaker Madigan Rules that Committee.No bill can become law in Illinois without Speaker Madigans express approval Not just one party government but one person government.I.e. a dictatorship. \rant mode off Maybe it should be the Ruler's Committee. +100K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted November 11, 2017 at 04:45 PM Share Posted November 11, 2017 at 04:45 PM I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted November 11, 2017 at 06:41 PM Share Posted November 11, 2017 at 06:41 PM As expected, SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing was referred back to the House Rules Committee today. We'll be watching, of course, for their next move.Aahhh. The House Rules Committee.No bill can become law in Illinois without passing through that committee.Speaker Madigan Rules that Committee.No bill can become law in Illinois without Speaker Madigans express approval Not just one party government but one person government.I.e. a dictatorship. \rant mode off Maybe it should be the Ruler's Committee. I thought it already was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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