PastorRichard Posted January 3, 2018 at 12:43 AM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 12:43 AM Has anyone heard anything about the Illinois Conceal Carry renewal. I know the amount, but neither my gun dealers, gun range, or the State Police Officer I inquired has heard anything. My license expires in early 2019 and I would like to avoid waiting until the last minute. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted January 3, 2018 at 12:47 AM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 12:47 AM Yes we have about 99% of the information, I'm sure we will get 1 or 2 screw balls last minute. Here is a post about it on my website: http://www.alphakoncepts.com/concealed-carry-license-renewal-class/ also a video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOCK22 Posted January 3, 2018 at 02:07 AM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 02:07 AM So what is the going rate for the renewal class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted January 3, 2018 at 02:52 AM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 02:52 AM $99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 3, 2018 at 02:57 AM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 02:57 AM Nothing new but we've had a few discussions about it. http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=65412 http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=65997 http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=67221 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScopeEye Posted January 3, 2018 at 03:03 AM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 03:03 AM $99seems expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted January 3, 2018 at 03:09 AM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 03:09 AM It just seems expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted January 3, 2018 at 03:21 AM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 03:21 AM Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.Check back later in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorRichard Posted January 3, 2018 at 05:47 PM Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 05:47 PM Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.Check back later in the year.Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorRichard Posted January 3, 2018 at 05:50 PM Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 05:50 PM Yes we have about 99% of the information, I'm sure we will get 1 or 2 screw balls last minute. Here is a post about it on my website: http://www.alphakoncepts.com/concealed-carry-license-renewal-class/ also a video: The info was helpful. I have a Master Sargent in the State Police in my congregation and he believes the 3 hour course has yet to be designed or in the early stages. If classes don't even begin until late 2018 it looks like I will be cutting it pretty close since my expiration is Feb 2019. Are your classes in Central Illinois? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorRichard Posted January 3, 2018 at 05:58 PM Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 05:58 PM So what is the going rate for the renewal class? I am told that in Illinois it is the same as the original application fee: $150.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted January 3, 2018 at 06:23 PM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 06:23 PM So what is the going rate for the renewal class?I expect to charge in the ball park for $30 fort he class, but there are many variables which will actually dictate class price, when the time comes. I expect to start classes 4th quarter 2018. The state re-application fee shall be $150. Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! the Firearm Concealed Carry Licensing act has a provision which states: © A license is invalid upon expiration of the license, unless the licensee has submitted an application to renew the license, and the applicant is otherwise eligible to possess a license under this Act. If you've applied and the license expires while awaiting approval, you should be good to go. Of course the officer might not know that, so if I were personally ever in this situation, I would carry a copy of the law as well as my pending application with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted January 3, 2018 at 06:27 PM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 06:27 PM The info was helpful. I have a Master Sargent in the State Police in my congregation and he believes the 3 hour course has yet to be designed or in the early stages. If classes don't even begin until late 2018 it looks like I will be cutting it pretty close since my expiration is Feb 2019. Are your classes in Central Illinois? This is something that was written into the law. We instructors know what the state expects from us and we are required to tailor our curriculum accordingly. From the Illinois Concealed Carry licensing Act, (d) An applicant for renewal of a license shall provide proof of completion of a firearms training course or combination of courses approved by the Department of at least 3 hours. (e) A certificate of completion for an applicant's firearm training course shall not be issued to a student who: (1) does not follow the orders of the certified firearms instructor; (2) in the judgment of the certified instructor, handles a firearm in a manner that poses a danger to the student or to others; or (3) during the range firing portion of testing fails to hit the target with 70% of the rounds fired. (f) An instructor shall maintain a record of each student's performance for at least 5 years, and shall make all records available upon demand of authorized personnel of the Department. Furthermore, the Illinois State Police have defined this information in their instructor curriculum application as follows... 3-HOUR RENEWAL CURRICULUMRenewal Firearm Curriculum must be at least 3 hours and include:1. All applicable State and Federal laws relating to the ownership, storage, carry, and transportation of a firearm; 2 hours Classroom Recommended ______ a. The Act relating to the ownership, storage, carry and transportation of a firearm1)with emphasis on 430 ILCS 66/10(h) which includes instruction on the appropriate and lawfulinteraction with law enforcement while transporting or carrying a concealed firearm.2)with emphasis on 430 ILCS 66/65 which includes instruction on prohibited areas and the parkinglot exception. ______ b. The FOID Act 430 ILCS 65/1 et. seq. ______ c. Relevant portions of the ILCS including but not limited to1)720 ILCS 5/7-1. Use of force in defense of a person**2)720 ILCS 5/7-2. Use of force in defense of dwelling**3)720 ILCS 5/7-3. Use of force in defense of other property**4)720 ILCS 24/1 et. seq. Unlawful Use of Weapons****Must define dwelling, aggressor, forcible felony and unlawful use of weapons pursuant to the ILCS.2. Weapon Handling; 1 hour Range Recommended ______ a. Handgun fundamentals ______ b. Handgun concealment ______ c. Live fire qualification instruction ______ d. Live fire qualification with a concealable firearm consisting of minimum of 30 rounds which mustinclude 10 rounds from a distance of 5 yards; 10 rounds from a distance of 7 yards; and 10 roundsfrom a distance of 10 yards at a B-27 silhouette target approved by the Illinois State Police. (Seewww.isp.state.il.us/firearms/ccw/ccw-faq.cfm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 3, 2018 at 07:06 PM Share Posted January 3, 2018 at 07:06 PM Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.Check back later in the year. Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! I would like to think the ISP is thinking ahead to the big influx of renewals at the same time and is preparing. I still dont completely undersatand why it takes 90 days to get BG checked now. Are renewals subject to the same 30 day LE objection window again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchaser Posted January 9, 2018 at 07:32 PM Share Posted January 9, 2018 at 07:32 PM Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.Check back later in the year.Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! I would like to think the ISP is thinking ahead to the big influx of renewals at the same time and is preparing. I still dont completely undersatand why it takes 90 days to get BG checked now. Are renewals subject to the same 30 day LE objection window again?Renewals, and even an address change, are treated like a brand new application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted January 9, 2018 at 08:31 PM Share Posted January 9, 2018 at 08:31 PM Let’s say you could renew now so that would mean you would have gotten a 4 year license instead of a five year license.Check back later in the year.Will do. My only concern is that the waiting period for the renewal is the same as the original application, 120 days. It's possible that a license could expire before the classes begin in late 2018. Remember, we are dealing with the Peoples Republic of Illinois! I would like to think the ISP is thinking ahead to the big influx of renewals at the same time and is preparing. I've already begun sending them email questions. I know it's WAY early but I'm doing that kind of as a reminder. Each time they reply basically saying "We'll know more later. contact us again." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtr100 Posted January 9, 2018 at 08:36 PM Share Posted January 9, 2018 at 08:36 PM I've already begun sending them email questions. I know it's WAY early but I'm doing that kind of as a reminder. Each time they reply basically saying "We'll know more later. contact us again." So odds are it's going to be a goat rope ... lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilfedup Posted January 12, 2018 at 03:36 PM Share Posted January 12, 2018 at 03:36 PM Being illinois, nothing will be set until the last possible moment! Who knows it may take a court to make up their mind! Our state seems to have a terrible record for these kind of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Bundy Posted January 13, 2018 at 11:50 PM Share Posted January 13, 2018 at 11:50 PM Following for info Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rotty_rott Posted January 25, 2018 at 07:18 PM Share Posted January 25, 2018 at 07:18 PM Will the 3 hour renewal class still be required for those that were exempt from training initially? It wouldn't make sense to be exempted from 16hrs but not 3hrs, but this is Illinois so sense isn't expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted January 25, 2018 at 08:13 PM Share Posted January 25, 2018 at 08:13 PM Will the 3 hour renewal class still be required for those that were exempt from training initially? It wouldn't make sense to be exempted from 16hrs but not 3hrs, but this is Illinois so sense isn't expected.Very good question. Common Sense would make you believe that they would be exempt from the 3-hour renewal but as you stated it is Illinois. Now I need to go look at the FCCA and see what it says if anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted January 26, 2018 at 08:27 PM Share Posted January 26, 2018 at 08:27 PM Will the 3 hour renewal class still be required for those that were exempt from training initially? It wouldn't make sense to be exempted from 16hrs but not 3hrs, but this is Illinois so sense isn't expected.The answer to your question would be NO. Under paragraph (h) of Section 75 of the FCCA. Those listed under that paragraph are exempt from the training requirements of Section 75. (h) A person who has qualified to carry a firearm as an active law enforcement or corrections officer, who has successfully completed firearms training as required by his or her law enforcement agency and is authorized by his or her agency to carry a firearm; a person currently certified as a firearms instructor by this Act or by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training Standards Board; or a person who has completed the required training and has been issued a firearm control card by the Department of Financial and Professional Regulation shall be exempt from the requirements of this Section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted January 27, 2018 at 02:39 PM Share Posted January 27, 2018 at 02:39 PM Anyone have an idea when these refreshers will be offered? Fall 2018 seems like a drop dead date. Well, not date but season. And prices. I'm eager to bang it out and get my renewal in when ISP makes that available. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadyRunner Posted January 30, 2018 at 01:24 AM Share Posted January 30, 2018 at 01:24 AM I’m a very low volume instructor (became one to train my Wife and close friends). About 20 people that I spend time with on a regular basis now all carry regularly. It makes me feel safer in my neighborhood... Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted January 30, 2018 at 07:11 PM Share Posted January 30, 2018 at 07:11 PM Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...What makes you think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted January 30, 2018 at 07:51 PM Share Posted January 30, 2018 at 07:51 PM Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...What makes you think that?Because instructors are exempt per the FCCA. See my post #23 above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtr100 Posted January 30, 2018 at 09:03 PM Share Posted January 30, 2018 at 09:03 PM Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal... What makes you think that? Because instructors are exempt per the FCCA. See my post #23 above. didn't they change that - I think new instructors need to do 'day 2' now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted January 30, 2018 at 09:41 PM Share Posted January 30, 2018 at 09:41 PM Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...What makes you think that?Because instructors are exempt per the FCCA. See my post #23 above.didn't they change that - I think new instructors need to do 'day 2' now That I don't know. State law has not changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm Posted January 31, 2018 at 03:26 PM Share Posted January 31, 2018 at 03:26 PM Another benefit - exempt from the 3 hours for renewal...What makes you think that?Because instructors are exempt per the FCCA. See my post #23 above.didn't they change that - I think new instructors need to do 'day 2' nowAfter April 16, 2014, you must have a CCL prior to applying to become an instructor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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