Dcompton Posted October 22, 2014 at 08:16 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 08:16 PM As I am standing there in the little booth filling in my circles with a marker I became sad. My state is so corrupt, so beyond repair, and so tainted, that my votes really do mot matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted October 22, 2014 at 08:22 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 08:22 PM As long as we all keep trying, by voting and promoting our 2A rights here or other rights in other ways, there's always hope. You being part of Illinois Carry has made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted October 22, 2014 at 08:22 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 08:22 PM Thanks for voting. My vote does matter, however. Keep voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted October 22, 2014 at 08:58 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 08:58 PM This site is a monument to the idea that it possible to bring about change in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miztic Posted October 22, 2014 at 09:14 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 09:14 PM This site is a monument to the idea that it possible to bring about change in Illinois.I think one of the reasons change worked in our case is that 2A issues don't really affect the politicians personally one way or the other. However, campaign finance, term limits, the state's financial health, voter fraud, illegal immigration etc. all do and that's why we'll never change those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcoden Posted October 22, 2014 at 09:20 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 09:20 PM I voted early as well. I just love the strangle hold the dems have on crook county. Vote for 1 - Cook County President:And the one and only choice is __________ Ugh, I'll just leave it blank. I can't stomach this ballot. Half the ballot doesn't even have an alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted October 22, 2014 at 09:29 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 09:29 PM This site is a monument to the idea that it possible to bring about change in Illinois.I think one of the reasons change worked in our case is that 2A issues don't really affect the politicians personally one way or the other. However, campaign finance, term limits, the state's financial health, voter fraud, illegal immigration etc. all do and that's why we'll never change those things. Successes on 2A issues take away tools which have been used to defeat honest candidates. Last year we took the "concealed carry killers" hammer away from the crooks and they really miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wven33 Posted October 22, 2014 at 09:36 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 09:36 PM I voted none of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade13 Posted October 22, 2014 at 10:01 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 10:01 PM I voted early as well. I just love the strangle hold the dems have on crook county. Vote for 1 - Cook County President:And the one and only choice is __________ Ugh, I'll just leave it blank. I can't stomach this ballot. Half the ballot doesn't even have an alternative.Next time become the alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VannDaddy Posted October 22, 2014 at 10:07 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 10:07 PM Just remember that your vote counts..... if there's a tie with all of the other votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miztic Posted October 22, 2014 at 10:17 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 10:17 PM I voted early as well. I just love the strangle hold the dems have on crook county. Vote for 1 - Cook County President:And the one and only choice is __________ Ugh, I'll just leave it blank. I can't stomach this ballot. Half the ballot doesn't even have an alternative.Next time become the alternative. You can't,it takes 6000 signatures to get on the ballot if you're a Democrat, 5000 signatures if you're a Republican, and 50,000ish if you're independent.Things aren't rigged at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcoden Posted October 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM Share Posted October 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM I voted early as well. I just love the strangle hold the dems have on crook county. Vote for 1 - Cook County President:And the one and only choice is __________ Ugh, I'll just leave it blank. I can't stomach this ballot. Half the ballot doesn't even have an alternative.Next time become the alternative. Can you imagine me getting elected for cook co president? People would actually have to work! And pay scales would be drastically adjusted for gov positions under my watch... Guns for everyone though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:06 AM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:06 AM Each conservative vote is very important. Liberals constantly frustrate us hoping we won't vote. Don't let them win. I envision 2 lines facing each other, one line of conservatives and one line of liberals. Each conservative must vote to cancel out the corresponding liberal vote. If conservatives don't give up, maybe some of the liberals will give up ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:11 AM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:11 AM Don't be sad or give up hope - remember that a lot of blood was spilled to afford us the right to elect our government officials.It's not your fault or mine that most are self serving jerks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyWhitey Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:17 AM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:17 AM Early voting is just wrong IMHO. It has the potential for much more corruption than there already is in the "voting process" without "voter ID" required at the polls!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcompton Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:28 AM Author Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 12:28 AM Well as much as I am discouraged, early voting for me is a Godsend. My work is completely unpredictable and if elections were confined to one day, i would often be out of luck. Even though my personal outlook is bleak on the matter, make no mistake....voting I believe is a very serious civic duty. I will always vote even if I am just canceling out a vote for the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB Posted October 23, 2014 at 11:55 AM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 11:55 AM Voted early, zero wait time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted October 23, 2014 at 01:14 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 01:14 PM Early voting is just wrong IMHO. It has the potential for much more corruption than there already is in the "voting process" without "voter ID" required at the polls!!!Agreed. Bothers me a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted October 23, 2014 at 02:53 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 02:53 PM Vote early or vote November 4th. JUST VOTE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netechsys Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:14 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:14 PM Early voting is just wrong IMHO. It has the potential for much more corruption than there already is in the "voting process" without "voter ID" required at the polls!!!Agreed. Bothers me a lot. Agreed! With Early and Absentee voting, it makes for voter fraud too easy. Lets be like the dems and vote early and vote often. Lets just look at how the dems promote the voter fraud by looking at the Ohio voter fraud. It was Melowese Richardson, a Democratic poll worker, convicted of Voter Fraud. See this and this. The voter fraud on top of stories like this one today where the voting machine had a 'Calibration error' that turned republican votes to democratic votes... These make you have to stop and think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDEESUL Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:26 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:26 PM How exactly does early voting mean more fraud? Sent from S4 Echoe ROM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulkucz Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:36 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:36 PM I voted today. First time using on of those touchscreen machines, but it displayed what I chose, and the printed confirmation was correct as well. I was a little concerned at first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netechsys Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:40 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:40 PM How exactly does early voting mean more fraud? Sent from S4 Echoe ROMHow exactly does early voting mean more fraud? Well, it does not mean more fraud, just the ability for more fraud. Early voting, while in theory might be a good thing, in its current implementation is not. I can, hypothetically, and as the voters in Ohio demonstrated, go and vote early. And vote Absentee. And vote on the day of the election.. They are not tracking a One person, One vote.. If there was a way to guarantee one person, one vote, then it is good... But, that is not today.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:55 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 03:55 PM How exactly does early voting mean more fraud? Sent from S4 Echoe ROM How exactly does early voting mean more fraud? Well, it does not mean more fraud, just the ability for more fraud. Early voting, while in theory might be a good thing, in its current implementation is not. I can, hypothetically, and as the voters in Ohio demonstrated, go and vote early. And vote Absentee. And vote on the day of the election.. They are not tracking a One person, One vote.. If there was a way to guarantee one person, one vote, then it is good... But, that is not today..Ohio or Illinois. I vote in Illinois, I guess I will go vote in Ohio later. Is our process like Ohio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protean Posted October 23, 2014 at 04:16 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 04:16 PM I plan on doing early voting as well but it will be till Saturday, till I can make it per schedule issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netechsys Posted October 23, 2014 at 04:21 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 04:21 PM I vote in Illinois too, I just use Ohio as an example.. BUT, there are many items that need to be addressed to fix the election process in the US. And, I will not pick on Illinois or Ohio, but use the biggest liberal center in the country, New York / NYC. Why is it that a college student that lives in Illinois say, like my daughter, goes to a Higher School of Education in NYC, and can vote absentee in Illinois, and go into a poll in NYC and vote using her college ID? She lives in Illinois. Her permanent address is in Illinois. Yet she can vote in NYC. In a State or Local election, that does not mean anything, but in a national election, now that one person can vote twice, once in 2 states and not technical break any laws. And, even if they, being NYC, require a government ID to be given to vote in an election, how will they guarantee that any illegal immigrants/aliens/ 'Undocumented Workers' that have received State Issued Drivers Licenses, since NY will give them the IDs, are not voting in the election. There is nothing on their DL that states they are illegal, and non residents. That is just wrong in so many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcoden Posted October 23, 2014 at 04:33 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 04:33 PM So, how would I possibly vote again? I voted early, they marked me as having voted in the computer system. If I go again on election day, the computer is going to show I've already voted.That said, if there is a way I can vote a few more times, let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted October 23, 2014 at 05:05 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 05:05 PM As I am standing there in the little booth filling in my circles with a marker I became sad. My state is so corrupt, so beyond repair, and so tainted, that my votes really do mot matter. Since they can not ask for ID, who's ballot did you take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDEESUL Posted October 23, 2014 at 05:12 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 05:12 PM Oh, I gotcha. I figured they would only use each voter id# once. Sent from S4 Echoe ROM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDEESUL Posted October 23, 2014 at 05:39 PM Share Posted October 23, 2014 at 05:39 PM Since they can not ask for ID, who's ballot did you take? Where did you get the idea that they can not ask for ID? Sent from S4 Echoe ROM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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