Colt guy Posted June 24, 2020 at 04:03 AM Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 04:03 AM Hey all, my first AR and I cant get to the range for a while. I picked up one of those cartridge style laser bore sight tools to try and at least get the iron sights somewhat dialed in at 25yrds.Are these things worth a darn ? I have my rear iron as far left as it will go to get the sight picture lined up. I cant imagine the rifle is that screwed up right out of the box. It laser was way right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted June 24, 2020 at 05:06 AM Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 05:06 AM Rotate the cartridge 180 degrees and see if you dont need to move the rear sight all the way to the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted June 24, 2020 at 05:37 AM Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 05:37 AM Re chambered it a dozen times.I just wonder if this is just off or whether the gun is off.. this was a 19 dollar Amazon shot in the dark. I suppose I can order a different one but I suspect they are all made by the same Chinese factories. I dont want to walk back into the gunsmith and look like a moron if its just the cheapo laser ! I should try and just break it down and sight down the bore later today and see what I get. Kind of hard to do in the driveway with the neighbors working in the yard next door ! Its a DS Arms rifle and I know they make a good rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted June 24, 2020 at 11:49 AM Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 11:49 AM I never had any luck with these and ive tried a few. i bought a sitelite (a little more expensive) and its on paper first shot every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchenryill Posted June 24, 2020 at 02:29 PM Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 02:29 PM Ditto on the Sitelite. Lined up on all my rifles. Did pay over a hundred for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted June 24, 2020 at 02:38 PM Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 02:38 PM I used one of those cheap bore lasers myself.(Borrowed from a friend)Accurate? Not particularly...but they will get you on paper so your first shot doesnt take out a flight out of ohara... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord Posted June 24, 2020 at 02:54 PM Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 02:54 PM They have worked for me to get my scope on paper - my only complaint about them is the batteries don't last and are expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted June 24, 2020 at 03:15 PM Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 03:15 PM I have a cheap Burris laser bore sight kit from about 30 years ago that still works. Sometimes, I have to rotate the laser unit 90 degrees to get the right windage/left-to-right. It gets me on paper, then it's up to me. If I can, I bore sight, which should be easy for an AR. For my bolt guns, I start with the laser to get me in the ballpark, sighting inside the house or yard. Then I pull the bolt and bore sight at something about 100+ yards away, like a neighbor's front porch light. Do this after dark, with the lights in the room off so no one sees you aiming at their house. Confirm at the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted June 24, 2020 at 04:12 PM Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 04:12 PM Going to try one more time. I rolled the laser on a dead flat granite counter and it didnt wobble at all. I will be very dissapointed if the gun is that far off. I will have to bring it back to them to have a look. I cant see any cant in the front post either but it may not be visible by the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScopeEye Posted June 24, 2020 at 11:51 PM Share Posted June 24, 2020 at 11:51 PM IMO a laser bore sight is not necessary for an ARI've sighted in dozens of AR's without bore sight. If one is having issues just try shorter distance and walk in to your desired zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted June 25, 2020 at 12:09 AM Share Posted June 25, 2020 at 12:09 AM I had the same issue when using a laser bore sight. The sight wasn't cheap and got me very close to POI and only required minor adjustments, but when everything was lined up, my rear sight looked just like yours. Cranked all the way to the left. Turns out the handguard is either not machined straight, or the mounting holes on the handguard are off. I'd be surprised if the barrel was warped that much, so I'm assuming it's the handguard. If I look carefully at the barrel compared to the end of the handguard, you can see that it's way off. Not really sure how to fix this yet. Anyone have any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted June 25, 2020 at 01:55 AM Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 at 01:55 AM Well its the cheap laser . I opened the blinds in the living room and sighted it to a construction dumpster 100 yards away. and sighted it thru the barrel. When on target thru the barrel the sights were of course way off. The rear sight is now back to center. Strange because the laser itself does not seem to wobble when rolled across the granite counter. It must not be seating properly or maybe reflecting off the chrome lined barrel. Who knows but its useless to me now. 20 bucks down the drain as usual. Bitter Clinger I have an A2 FSB dont have a front rail mounted sight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveIL Posted June 25, 2020 at 05:11 PM Share Posted June 25, 2020 at 05:11 PM I bought one of the cheap Laser in .223 took it to the range to help sight in, and after I slammed the bolt, I was able to I suppose "get on paper", then it got jammed in there, had one of the range guys pop the bolt back with a screwdriver.. finished sighting it at an outdoor range at 50yds.. but it did get me on paper.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted June 25, 2020 at 05:24 PM Share Posted June 25, 2020 at 05:24 PM I bought one of the cheap Laser in .223 took it to the range to help sight in, and after I slammed the bolt, I was able to I suppose "get on paper", then it got jammed in there, had one of the range guys pop the bolt back with a screwdriver.. finished sighting it at an outdoor range at 50yds.. but it did get me on paper.. Never slam the bolt on those things...ride it in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanc Posted June 25, 2020 at 09:25 PM Share Posted June 25, 2020 at 09:25 PM I bought one of the cheap Laser in .223 took it to the range to help sight in, and after I slammed the bolt, I was able to I suppose "get on paper", then it got jammed in there, had one of the range guys pop the bolt back with a screwdriver.. finished sighting it at an outdoor range at 50yds.. but it did get me on paper.. Never slam the bolt on those things...ride it in... And don't pull the trigger on one either. My old Burris kit that still works fits in the muzzle with adapters for each bore size. Years ago, I also picked up a 7.62x39 laser bore sighter that lasted all of 10 seconds when I pulled the trigger on it. Stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted June 25, 2020 at 10:48 PM Share Posted June 25, 2020 at 10:48 PM I bought one of the cheap Laser in .223 took it to the range to help sight in, and after I slammed the bolt, I was able to I suppose "get on paper", then it got jammed in there, had one of the range guys pop the bolt back with a screwdriver.. finished sighting it at an outdoor range at 50yds.. but it did get me on paper.. Never slam the bolt on those things...ride it in... And don't pull the trigger on one either. My old Burris kit that still works fits in the muzzle with adapters for each bore size. Years ago, I also picked up a 7.62x39 laser bore sighter that lasted all of 10 seconds when I pulled the trigger on it. Stupid! Riiiight....I bet...it wasnt an accident. You were wearing your storm trooper costume....Figured....laser cartridge? Laser BLAST!!!Hold my beer....(And of course you were high and right...because storm troopers...) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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