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I have a friend at church whose dad took the Illinois Concealed Carry class about 5 years ago but never applied for his Illinois LTC. He helped me with my renewal and mentioned that to his dad who said he'd taken the training but never applied for the LTC. It took about 4 months but this past week he got his LTC. So it doesn't look like there is a time limit on using a training certificate.

 

Does anyone know if a Kentucky LTC can be used to reduce the training time for an Illinois LTC to 8 hours?

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An old old question once again pops to mind. Since the training certificate does not expire, how can the ISP by law demand a new one to renew an expired ccl?

I know, I know. They can thumb their noses at us and the law.

I do not see in the law where a renewal must be done before the expiration date. All I see is need for 3 hour renewal class and certificate. Sure the ccl is expired but I a naive citizen do not understand how the ISP nor JCAR can legally demand new full training.

More to the point since the renewal certificste does not have an expiration date then how can the ISP lawfully claim it expires at our ccl expiration date?

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This is one of the things that makes me scratch my head... I have had several students wait a year or more and then apply. By the time they expire and need to be renewed, it might have been 8yrs since the training, but if your CCL expires by a week, say 5yrs 1 week, you have to retake the entire 16hrs????

You're right, it doesn't make sense.

 

As an example,I just renewed my Florida license. If you renew after you expire they charge an extra $15. Plus their grace period is 180 days if you forget to renew before you expire.

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Is anyone else of the opinion if a CCL has expired that we can accept the original 8 hours of training ( An NRA Basic Pistol, DD 214, or a class given by the same instructor and only require a 8 hour class for renewal.. We teach our classes as separate for Basic Pistol and ILCC. In other words, if a student provided proof of training that waived the first 8 hours would that training not be valid even though there is no time limit on the initial training provided.

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Is anyone else of the opinion if a CCL has expired that we can accept the original 8 hours of training ( An NRA Basic Pistol, DD 214, or a class given by the same instructor and only require a 8 hour class for renewal.. We teach our classes as separate for Basic Pistol and ILCC. In other words, if a student provided proof of training that waived the first 8 hours would that training not be valid even though there is no time limit on the initial training provided.

That would be my interpretation also.

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Is anyone else of the opinion if a CCL has expired that we can accept the original 8 hours of training ( An NRA Basic Pistol, DD 214, or a class given by the same instructor and only require a 8 hour class for renewal.. We teach our classes as separate for Basic Pistol and ILCC. In other words, if a student provided proof of training that waived the first 8 hours would that training not be valid even though there is no time limit on the initial training provided.

 

That would make sense, but often that does not go hand in hand in the state. I do not see why not, but there is nothing in the statute that would allow us to use our first class as a basis for an 8hr exemption. Yes, there is precedent for using BPC or 214, any of which is allowed for the first class. However, the way the law is now, I see no validated way to use our first 16hr course for anything other than the initial application. If I am wrong please sight.

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