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#1 steveTA84

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 04:02 PM

https://pluralist.co...7Svt9JwRSX1KsEk

Two innocuous social media posts shared by a Broward County, Florida gun owner were enough to lead authorities to temporarily confiscate his firearms, according to the mans attorney.

Kendra Parris told Reason her client posted a photo of an AR-15 rifle hed built, along with a comment, Its done. Hooray.

He also criticized teen gun control activists, claiming they were infringing on peoples Second Amendment rights, in another online comment.

Authorities obtained a temporary gun confiscation order based on the two posts. However, Parris said she was able to convince the city to drop its petition for a final order.


Thats any one of us that have ever posted a pic of a gun and criticized the antis

Edited by steveTA84, 18 October 2019 - 05:29 PM.


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:03 PM

Steve

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Did you get excited again?

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:09 PM

When is one of these cases going to court and challenge the constitutionality of these laws??? Maybe I have missed it



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Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:27 PM

This is how someone can have their 2nd amendment rights destroyed for daring to excercise their 1st amendment rights.  Does this have to happen to mainstream news media members for this to face serious opposition.


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:29 PM

Steve
Anothet = AnotherDid you get excited again?


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:30 PM

Red flag laws have nothing to do with safety, they're about disarming as many Americans as possible.
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Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:37 PM

How have we managed until now without unconstitutional red flag laws?
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Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:37 PM

Red flag laws have nothing to do with safety, they're about disarming as many Americans as possible.


That’s why Julie “I’ll confiscate your guns and block people who’s speech I don’t like” Morrison sent out this “reminder” (her words) today

http://www.senatorju...of-red-flag-law

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:44 PM

Red flag laws have nothing to do with safety, they're about disarming as many Americans as possible.


That’s why Julie “I’ll confiscate your guns and block people who’s speech I don’t like” Morrison sent out this “reminder” (her words) today http://www.senatorju...of-red-flag-law

She is in the pocket of Bloomberg and pushes his agenda.
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
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Posted 18 October 2019 - 05:47 PM

Here's another: Police Seize Guns From Man Thought to Be Neo-Nazi Leader

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 06:01 PM

Here's another: Police Seize Guns From Man Thought to Be Neo-Nazi Leader
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Believed to be is all it takes and persecuted for his ideology? Who would have thought people would be prosecuted for their beliefs in America.
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
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"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will loose both"
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Posted 18 October 2019 - 06:08 PM

The attorney needs to do depositions of all involved, then take her findings to the FBI:
https://www.law.corn...ode/text/18/241

Then file a gigantic civil suit as a follow up.

Edited by speedbump, 18 October 2019 - 06:08 PM.

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 06:27 PM

 

Here's another: Police Seize Guns From Man Thought to Be Neo-Nazi Leader
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Believed to be is all it takes and persecuted for his ideology? Who would have thought people would be prosecuted for their beliefs in America.

 

No matter how well intended, Red Flag Laws scare the H. E. double L. out of me.  What's next, flag me because I support Trump or oppose Trump.


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 06:49 PM

 

 

Here's another: Police Seize Guns From Man Thought to Be Neo-Nazi Leader
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Believed to be is all it takes and persecuted for his ideology? Who would have thought people would be prosecuted for their beliefs in America.

 

No matter how well intended, Red Flag Laws scare the H. E. double L. out of me.  What's next, flag me because I support Xxxxx xx xxxxxx Trump.

 

fixed if for you.

 

Remember, the law is there to hust red flag you solely for the reason you SUPPORT Trump. You are obviously a facist, homophobe, nazi, (insert every leftist bad name here) person that has to have his guns taken away......it's for the children, whaaahhhh!



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Posted 18 October 2019 - 07:03 PM

Here's another: Police Seize Guns From Man Thought to Be Neo-Nazi Leader
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Believed to be is all it takes and persecuted for his ideology? Who would have thought people would be prosecuted for their beliefs in America.
No matter how well intended, Red Flag Laws scare the H. E. double L. out of me.  What's next, flag me because I support Trump or oppose Trump.


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 07:34 PM

It's just a matter of time now until we end up with some people being red flagged that decide to resist in the harshest way possible..


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Posted 19 October 2019 - 10:19 AM

Here's another: Police Seize Guns From Man Thought to Be Neo-Nazi Leader
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Believed to be is all it takes and persecuted for his ideology? Who would have thought people would be prosecuted for their beliefs in America.
No matter how well intended, Red Flag Laws scare the H. E. double L. out of me.  What's next, flag me because I support Trump or oppose Trump.

It's a slippery slope as the people behind this law intended it to be. Very tyrannical and anyone who has a gun can be labeled a threat to themselves or others and is hard to defend against it and you are guilty until proven innocent. Similar to enemy of the state.

The people behind this conspiracy want to disarm and control Americans and think all gun owners are "a threat to themselves or others" and are doing it a step at a time. A lot of people are fooled by it including the NRA.
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
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Posted 19 October 2019 - 08:34 PM

This is why I refuse to have anything to do with "social media". :nono:


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Posted 20 October 2019 - 05:13 AM

I'm surprised that people willingly give up their guns in these situations.

Don't they have gun safes?

 

My safe would not be opening for any tyrant coming to confiscate my guns.



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Posted 20 October 2019 - 06:54 AM

Here is an example of the potential for Red Flag abuse.  

This is a photo of a person holding an evil black “ assault rifle “ and grinning.  

This person has a well documented history of brain damage - not her fault of course but reality. 

 

Someone could legitimately file a claim that her house needs to be raided, searched and any dangerous weapons removed.   
 

Crazy?  You bet but all the evidence is there  for a claim. 

This is an example of demonstrating the absurd by being absurd. 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 08:11 AM

Here is an example of the potential for Red Flag abuse.  
This is a photo of a person holding an evil black “ assault rifle “ and grinning.  
This person has a well documented history of brain damage - not her fault of course but reality. 
 
Someone could legitimately file a claim that her house needs to be raided, searched and any dangerous weapons removed.   
 
Crazy?  You bet but all the evidence is there  for a claim. 

This is an example of demonstrating the absurd by being absurd.


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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:42 AM

Copied from another thread ...

For the sake of discussion - just saying - there have been a few instances recently of people using vehicles to plow into / through crowds. Their goal simply to kill or injure as many as possible. Also a couple of recent instances of people using knives to attack / kill / injure groups of children.

WHY is there not a Vehicle Restraining Order Act, and a Knives Restraining Order Act, etc. etc ??

Take away someones Vehicle and driving privileges (etc.) without Due Process and make them go through the same hoops that firearm owners must ?? Common sense vehicle laws !!!

NO, I am NOT for Any of these red flag types of laws !

I just think it would be poetic justice if Firearms Restraining Order Act type laws could be used against the Antis. Equal Protection Under the Law and all that !!!

Strictly as an example - not advocating false reports - but IF someone were to call law enforcement and say Im afraid and have suspicions that such and such (an Anti) is going to use her car to plow through a crowd of school children !!!!
Said Anti would then have her car and drivers license taken away until such time she could prove she wasnt a threat.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 12:58 PM

I'm surprised that people willingly give up their guns in these situations.

Don't they have gun safes?

 

My safe would not be opening for any tyrant coming to confiscate my guns.

They'll come back with someone who will open the safe by any means short of explosives without concern for your property.


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Posted 21 October 2019 - 02:32 PM

It's just a matter of time now until we end up with some people being red flagged that decide to resist in the harshest way possible..

 

Yep.  And that resistance will be seen as yet one more reason to crank the press down one more turn on the rest of us.  Which will, in turn, trigger more resistance.

 

This is not going to end well.


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