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ScopeEye

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I know you have to register or use Facebook, but please take a moment and sign this Change.org petition. I think it's time we took a page from the left and use the power of these petitions to get a reaction. If enough of the Republicans that are running for office this year and next see 50,000 signatures or however many we can get, they may realize that they have been elected by us and we can just as easily find a replacement for them.

You may feel that this is not your hill to die on. But as soon as we cave on this the media and the left will start clamoring for more, because that's how they operate. You may not think that this will happen, but let me remind you that a bump stock was not all he used. What happens when they start saying that he was able to effectively use a bumpstock because he had 100 round mags, and other high capacity mags? Will the NRA and the Republicans capitulate that too and agree to ban mags next? What about how many guns he owned? Will they agree that no one needs 47 guns and anyone with more than 1 or 2 is planning a massacre?

It's a slippery slope and you guys who support this don't seem to comprehend that once you lose a right, it's never going to be restored. There will be no trade off with us giving up bumpstocks in return for national carry and suppressors.

The first thing that the democrats did after this tragedy was send out Hillary and Timmy to tie suppressors to this, and then they asked the Republicans to pull the Hearing protection act (or whatever it was now called) which Paul Ryan did without blinking.

It's ******* time to wake the Republican party up, to tell them that we have had enough of the false promises and talking out of both sides of their mouth. You may think that if we don't support them a democrat will win and then the conservative agenda will be set back. And to this I tell you that we have already tried that. We have given them what they asked of us and like the woman in a abusive relationship they beat us, and we come back for more because we are afraid of change.

No more. It's time to get what we have been paying for.

Sign here. Spread it far and wide

This the the official notice to the Republican party, The NRA and President Trump that we the people will not stand for any new legislation on the 2ed Amendment. We stand united in the demand that our freedoms are not infringed upon for political gains, and wish to serve notice to our legislators that we will not tolerate any subversion of the god given rights to defend ourselves. We vow to fight this reactionary legislation, and any attempt to infringe upon the Second Amendment we hold dear. We elected you to fight the liberal agenda, and protect our rights as citizens. If you fail to deliver upon the promises you made, then we will fail to deliver our time, energy and votes to your re-election campaigns and actively support new candidates who will. This is notice for those of you up for re-election in 2017 and 2018, that your support for the "Bump Stock, Trigger enhancement" bills will decide your political fate. You have proven to us that you are weak willed, gutless and in-effective by failing to deliver the Trump Administration agenda, and we have chosen this metaphorical hill to die on. It's time to do what we elected you to do or get the heck out of the way so someone with courage and conviction can. -We The People.

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I'm fine with banning the bump-stock. ScopeEye, your argument is well-reasoned and articulate, but I'm ok with giving the libs something, because it's something that doesn't matter. When it matters, I think that's the time to dig the trenches and hunker down, with lots of ammo. Maybe it is time for the "Art of the Deal." Give 'em something. I'm ok with trading away something that absolutely doesn't matter. But I do agree we should extract something in return, like reciprocity for example.

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Yes the problem is there is practically no way we will get national reciprocity any time soon. Paul Ryan has already said so. The only compromise will be us giving ground again. I do not own or have the desire to own a bump stock but it will be another loss for our side and a little ground gained on the other side.
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but it will be another loss for our side and a little ground gained on the other side.

 

I don't even see it as ground for us to lose, unless a legislative change is worded improperly (the reason I'd prefer an ATF interpretation, since they're better at zeroing in on a particular device, rather than clumsy legal wording that can be expanded upon easily). The bump stock is a novelty to anyone other than a mass killer, it's not a real gun part, it comprises nothing that is critical to the exercise of our rights, I knew it was going to become trouble for us the moment I learned of them years back. As is inferred by my screen name, I'm an advocate of well aimed fire, that full auto fire is for denying enemy troops access to swaths of territory, the kind of conflict that private individuals are not going to find themselves in without the aid of a government military entity. We have a reputation for being unreasonably single minded and until this point I've felt it's for good reason (okay, their interpretation is "unreasonably" :) ), because we know that our rights are finite and that's how they play the game. In this case, I think we look really bad in trying to save what amounts to a toy to even those concerned about tyranny, to surrender it without compromise would give us our perception of humanity back, something the gun rights movement really needs.

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I'd like to add that, while I strongly prefer to adhere to cold, hard logic when it comes to matters of law making, we have to realize that we live in a society of emotional human beings and this particular issue is an incredibly strong emotional issue and we live in a country where we count on elections, those emotional people voting, to see how significant portions of our lives are shaped. ScopeEye mentioned hills worth dying on and I think that's very appropriate for this matter, we really could die on this hill in the bigger picture, electorally. This is the point where I start thinking more like a politician.

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