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IllinoisCarry No Guns No Money cards
cshipley92 replied to cjurczak's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
Got mine today in the mail. They look awesome. Thanks cjurczak. I'll be passing small batches along to family and friends. Hopefully this far from Chicago we won't have a lot of businesses post but you never know. -
Woollard v. Gallagher
cshipley92 replied to skinnyb82's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
Pardon my ignorance, but I'm assuming that means it was given to all the SCOTUS judges so they can look it over and then come to a decision on whether to hear it or not? -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
Playing 's advocate here.... That would depend on the investigating officer, and subsequently the SA and court's interpretation of "immediately accessible". If the officer felt that loaded and in a case, fanny pack, etc was still "immediately accessible", and the court later agreed with him/her, you could still end up being charged with carrying in violation of the statute. Strike that, I see what you're saying now. It would have to meet ALL THREE requirements because of the word "AND". So as long as you took away one of the three, ie it was "cased" you wouldn't be in violation of the law. You could very well be right. -
Woollard v. Gallagher
cshipley92 replied to skinnyb82's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
Did the state give those reasons, and in writing? If so, that's a gift to Woollard. 1. The "actor" was obviously still dangerous to the family since he attacked his own parents and his ex wife. 2. SCOTUS has already said that the right to self defense is NOT limited to the home. Sounds more and more like this is a good one for us to have go to SCOTUS. -
Woollard v. Gallagher
cshipley92 replied to skinnyb82's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
While it would have made a better case IMO if the suspect was still alive the point is that the plaintiff was denied a permit at the time he needed it most, proving that Maryland's system is faulty and that may issue denies a citizen the most basic right of self defense. This is further proven by the fact the suspect DID attack the plaintiff again recently. Yes he took his own life shortly thereafter but the plaintiff was still in grave danger and should have been able to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights and protected himself and his family. Just to be clear, the plaintiff was his father-in-law, who WAS NOT attacked this time. The now-deceased person attacked his estranged wife (again) and his OWN parents. My bad. Thanks for clearing that up. I knew he'd attacked someone again and thought it was the plaintiff. Still, it goes to show he WAS still violent and dangerous. -
Woollard v. Gallagher
cshipley92 replied to skinnyb82's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
While it would have made a better case IMO if the suspect was still alive the point is that the plaintiff was denied a permit at the time he needed it most, proving that Maryland's system is faulty and that may issue denies a citizen the most basic right of self defense. This is further proven by the fact the suspect DID attack the plaintiff again recently. Yes he took his own life shortly thereafter but the plaintiff was still in grave danger and should have been able to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights and protected himself and his family. -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
+1000 maybe more in dollars when you win your case in court. LOL -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
Don't worry Obama knows who you are LOL But hey at least you are a supporting member, to me that is all that matters. Ha Ha my comment here just reminded me that mine had expired and I probably looked like a hypocrite........ just re-upped -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
Yes but it's an exemption to an unconstutional law, like cshipley said how can you have an exemption of a law that no longer exists? Yeah, I'm unsure there. Hopefully the SA he mentioned in the other thread returns his call. Will be an interesting response. Don't think Morgan county ever joined the will not prosecute counties. Not officially, but he did say that he would handle each instance on a case by case basis. -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
a loaded and partially or fully concealed firearm...yes. but what about open carry? What would they charge you with there? -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
Exactly. or as I said above.... What law can they charge a person for carrying under? -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
My point exactly. And since the FCCA didn't CHANGE that statute, but provided an exception to it, how can we be charged under the UUW statute? ie, If I were to carry today (not saying I will but...) what law would I be violating? UUW no longer exists so they couldn't charge me with that. So, what law would they charge me with breaking????? -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
Just playing devil's advocate here but......... If those sections, UUW and AUUW are unconstitutional and FCCA only provides an exception to them for those who possess a permit issued under the exception, how can you be charged? They can't charge you for violating an unconstitutional law, or the individual officer is libel for damages, therefore we should now have open carry, correct? This basically is the same thing as if the judges had, instead of ruling in the states favor, issued the injunction ordered by the 7th on the day the FCCA passed. IANAL but just using common sense, there is NO difference to me whether the IL Supreme Court issued the ruling or the 7th. If the law is unconstitutional it is unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable. -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
I saw that. However, since the UUW law wasn't really amended, just an exception added, and the court has ruled that the UUW law is unconstitutional (I noticed there was no stay like the 7th issued).... Using logic, how can you have an exception to a law that is no longer in existence? ie, it was struck down as unconstitutional. -
People vs Aguilar
cshipley92 replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
yes and that the 7ths decision is now the precedent in illinois courts. So does that mean we can start carrying today?