InterestedBystander Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:18 AM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:18 AM full story at link... ...and how are new laws passed by ILGA supposed to stop this? https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2019/9/9/20858030/straw-purchase-chicago-wisconsin-handguns 2 charged with conspiring to buy Wisconsin handguns, resell them in Chicago Kirk Valentine, of Wisconsin, allegedly bought 19 handguns from retail stores, pawn shops and gun shows and illegally gave them to a Chicago resident. Two men are facing federal charges for allegedly conspiring to straw purchase over a dozen handguns in Wisconsin and resell them in Chicago. Kirk Valentine, of Wisconsin, allegedly bought 19 handguns from retail stores, pawn shops and gun shows and illegally gave them to Chicago resident Francisco Rocha, who resold them in the city, according to the U.S. Attorneys Office of the Northern Illinois District. Both are charged with conspiracy to deal firearms without a license, prosecutors said. Rocha, who goes by Mookie and Ese, is also charged with unlawful dealing and importing firearms, according to the federal indictment. Rocha, 28, allegedly recruited 23-year-old Valentine, who paid premium over-the-list prices for the handguns in the first six months of 2018 throughout Wisconsin, prosecutors said. Rocha allegedly told him which guns to buy. In March, Valentine bought three handguns from a Gander Outdoors and two handguns from a dealer at Boob and Roccos Gun Show in Onalaska, Wisconsin, prosecutors said. In April and May, Valentine bought a handgun at Big Rooster Firearms in Sparta, two guns from the Holmen Pawn Shop and nine more guns from Bob and Roccos Gun show, prosecutors said. Rocha even accompanied Valentine to an Ace Hardware in La Crosse, where Rocha allegedly directed Valentine to buy two handguns for him, prosecutors said. Valentine allegedly signed ATF paperwork, falsely claiming the guns were for him, according to prosecutors. Rocha allegedly traveled to Wisconsin several times to buy the handguns from Valentine, prosecutors said. Among the weapons were several LCP Ruger .380 ACP pistols, a Century Arms Draco 7.62x39 caliber pistol and a Glock 10mm pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:26 AM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:26 AM Rocha even accompanied Valentine to an Ace Hardware in La Crosse, where Rocha allegedly directed Valentine to buy two handguns for him, prosecutors said. Ace Hardware sells guns? Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:28 AM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:28 AM Good to see this being prosecuted under federal law, be more likely to go to court with real penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:34 AM Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:34 AM Rocha even accompanied Valentine to an Ace Hardware in La Crosse, where Rocha allegedly directed Valentine to buy two handguns for him, prosecutors said.Ace Hardware sells guns? Sent from my SM-G892A using TapatalkYes, not new. Some used to do so even in IL but I doubt they do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:43 AM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:43 AM Rocha even accompanied Valentine to an Ace Hardware in La Crosse, where Rocha allegedly directed Valentine to buy two handguns for him, prosecutors said.Ace Hardware sells guns? Sent from my SM-G892A using TapatalkYes, not new. Some used to do so even in IL but I doubt they do now. I don't recall if the local ACE sold guns when I was a teen (didn't really have that much extra cash to blow) but I know for certain I bought most of my ammo, magazines, scopes and other gun accessories there for my 10/22 and 12 gauge as it was one of the closest places that sold ammo, and this was in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted September 10, 2019 at 04:36 AM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 04:36 AM I saw the Ace Hardware thing and thought, no way!Then I saw the dudes nicks....... Mookie and Weezy?(Ese) George and LionelAll they wanted was a deee-luxe apartment in the sky They be movin on up Ok I’m done........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted September 10, 2019 at 04:45 AM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 04:45 AM Lol Bubba...get your ghetto on...glad these fools are being dealt with In some places, "ese" (pronounced es-say) is just a slang way of refering to a guy. No different than dude, bro or man. Here on the West Coast, particularly in California, the term also has heavy gang ties. The Sureños are a large network of Latino gangs that started in Southern California (Sureño means southerner).Jan 26, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted September 10, 2019 at 04:49 AM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 04:49 AM Rocha even accompanied Valentine to an Ace Hardware in La Crosse, where Rocha allegedly directed Valentine to buy two handguns for him, prosecutors said. Ace Hardware sells guns? Before FOPA, you could buy full-auto SKSs from Ace for $100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted September 10, 2019 at 05:37 AM Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 05:37 AM Rocha even accompanied Valentine to an Ace Hardware in La Crosse, where Rocha allegedly directed Valentine to buy two handguns for him, prosecutors said.Ace Hardware sells guns?Before FOPA, you could buy full-auto SKSs from Ace for $100.Hmmm...As recently of 2017 Norridge ACE was planning a weapons section https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/norridge/ct-nhh-hardware-store-gun-sales-tl-1123-20171115-story.html ...Norridge hardware store plans to sell weapons in new sporting goods departmentBy PIONEER PRESSSTAFF REPORT |NOV 16, 2017 Norridge hardware store plans to sell weapons in new sporting goods department The owners of Norridge’s Ace Hardware store on Lawrence Avenue just off of Cumberland would like to add a small weapons sale section to a new sporting goods area. The owners of a family-run hardware store in Norridge are proposing to open a small weapons section as part of a new sporting goods department, selling a total of up to 180 rifles and handguns. Members of the Norridge Zoning Board of Appeals on Monday voted 6-1 in favor of the request from the owners of the Ace Hardware store, at 8330 W. Lawrence Ave., for special zoning, finding it met the requirements of the village's weapons dealer ordinance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted September 10, 2019 at 06:01 AM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 06:01 AM Where these guns used in crimes? The sting looks like it lasted about 6 months... what happened to the guns once they got into Rocha's hands? The reporting seems to be a little sparse on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korgs130 Posted September 10, 2019 at 08:15 AM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 08:15 AM The True Value Hardware in Henry, IL sells guns and ammo. At least they did prior to the IL dealer licensing nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted September 10, 2019 at 01:47 PM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 01:47 PM consider me juvenile In March, Valentine bought three handguns from a Gander Outdoors and two handguns from a dealer at Boob and Roccos Gun Show in Onalaska, Wisconsin, prosecutors said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VannDaddy Posted September 10, 2019 at 02:20 PM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 02:20 PM Rocha even accompanied Valentine to an Ace Hardware in La Crosse, where Rocha allegedly directed Valentine to buy two handguns for him, prosecutors said.Ace Hardware sells guns? Sent from my SM-G892A using TapatalkThe Ace in my town does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted September 10, 2019 at 02:45 PM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 02:45 PM consider me juvenile In March, Valentine bought three handguns from a Gander Outdoors and two handguns from a dealer at Boob and Roccos Gun Show in Onalaska, Wisconsin, prosecutors said. And yet further down in the post it is corrected to Bob and Rocco’s GunShow in Onalaska, Wisconsin.Obviously a fat finger on the keyboard, Opps, I said fat finger, Hope I didn’t trigger another juvenile episode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:41 PM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 03:41 PM In Indiana last year I went into an Ace hardware that had a gun section that would put many gun stores to shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oohrah Posted September 10, 2019 at 04:43 PM Share Posted September 10, 2019 at 04:43 PM My Ace Hardware has a gun store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted September 11, 2019 at 02:38 AM Share Posted September 11, 2019 at 02:38 AM There are four Ace Hardware stores that I know of in this area. The furthest is about 12 miles SE of me but none of them sell weapons or ammo. AFAIK, they never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted September 11, 2019 at 03:04 PM Share Posted September 11, 2019 at 03:04 PM consider me juvenile In March, Valentine bought three handguns from a Gander Outdoors and two handguns from a dealer at Boob and Roccos Gun Show in Onalaska, Wisconsin, prosecutors said.And yet further down in the post it is corrected to Bob and Rocco’s GunShow in Onalaska, Wisconsin.Obviously a fat finger on the keyboard, Opps, I said fat finger, Hope I didn’t trigger another juvenile episode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Illiniwek Posted September 11, 2019 at 09:16 PM Share Posted September 11, 2019 at 09:16 PM The Ace 20 minutes from me sells long guns and ammo, at least they did the last time I was in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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