vito Posted July 10, 2019 at 12:03 PM Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 12:03 PM · Hidden by mauserme, July 10, 2019 at 12:04 PM - No reason given Hidden by mauserme, July 10, 2019 at 12:04 PM - No reason given Don't let the troll hijack the thread. Link to comment
seanc Posted July 10, 2019 at 03:06 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 03:06 PM Watch out, cool guy in the room... And you wonder why there aren't more left gun rights advocates, you bootlickers called the cops on all of them. Sounds a bit... Fascist? Orwell... as the resident lefty...Not a great way to make friends and support gun rights for all Illinoisans.You've only been a member here at IC for a week.What do you have in mind for next week? LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcreek Posted July 10, 2019 at 03:25 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 03:25 PM Antifa and the radical left realize something most of us on the right do not. We are in the beginning stages of civil war.It has been a cold civil war so far but that will probably change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:11 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:11 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:14 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:14 PM Antifa and the radical left realize something most of us on the right do not. We are in the beginning stages of civil war. It has been a cold civil war so far but that will probably change.Some of us have realized it since before Antifa stepped on stage. Realize it's only a matter of time. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:26 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:26 PM Both the R and the D half of the one party system were in cahoots here. You forgot that detail. Unlike when the law was passed and there was a split Senate, today California has a D governor and D supermajorities in both.legislatures. I'm sure they will be repealing that law any day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:31 PM Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:31 PM With the violent attacks by Antifa of anyone they think is a Conservative and/or Trump supporter, I think it would be a reasonable assumption that if one saw Antifa thugs heading toward them, that there would be a risk of a life threatening attack, and self defense would be necessary by whatever means available. If you carry everyday, everywhere, you will be prepared for this eventuality. Since Antifa comes in mob form, not individuals, something with reasonable capacity seems prudent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS1 Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:32 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 04:32 PM Antifa and the radical left realize something most of us on the right do not. We are in the beginning stages of civil war.It has been a cold civil war so far but that will probably change.Some of us have realized it since before Antifa stepped on stage. Realize it's only a matter of time. Sent from my SM-N960U using TapatalkWhat is the time table? Because I've been hearing that we are in the beginning stages of a civil war for like 35 years. Occupy, LA Riots, Gulf War II... heck the Detroit riots, DNC Chicago, Watts Riots, Great Depression, you could probably make a case that we have been in the beginning stages of a civil war since the end of the Civil War. With brief resets during WWI, WWII, the Space Race, and 9/11. Pretty sure the nation can survive Antifa without having to go full on civil war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 10, 2019 at 06:40 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 06:40 PM Antifa and the radical left realize something most of us on the right do not. We are in the beginning stages of civil war. It has been a cold civil war so far but that will probably change.Some of us have realized it since before Antifa stepped on stage. Realize it's only a matter of time. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk What is the time table? Because I've been hearing that we are in the beginning stages of a civil war for like 35 years. Occupy, LA Riots, Gulf War II... heck the Detroit riots, DNC Chicago, Watts Riots, Great Depression, you could probably make a case that we have been in the beginning stages of a civil war since the end of the Civil War. With brief resets during WWI, WWII, the Space Race, and 9/11. Pretty sure the nation can survive Antifa without having to go full on civil war.So far, 35+ years Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 10, 2019 at 06:42 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 06:42 PM Or is it 150+ years. I lost count. Regardless, we're always close. It just takes 1 act. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted July 10, 2019 at 06:54 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 06:54 PM Both the R and the D half of the one party system were in cahoots here. You forgot that detail. Unlike when the law was passed and there was a split Senate, today California has a D governor and D supermajorities in both.legislatures. I'm sure they will be repealing that law any day now. Yes, just like here. Perhaps it is the size of the crowd that IGold draws that has kept them away but I have been surprised that there haven't been more antis showing up at those rallies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted July 10, 2019 at 09:41 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 09:41 PM Both the R and the D half of the one party system were in cahoots here. You forgot that detail. Unlike when the law was passed and there was a split Senate, today California has a D governor and D supermajorities in both.legislatures. I'm sure they will be repealing that law any day now. Yes, just like here. Perhaps it is the size of the crowd that IGold draws that has kept them away but I have been surprised that there haven't been more antis showing up at those rallies. The anti's may have shown up and realized that the crowd could have swallered them up whole, without a burp - and decided that being a lightning rod wasn't a good idea. Waking up in the drunk tank, with a drunk & disorderly charge, massive hangover and no clear memories of the previous day would be quite an eye opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted July 10, 2019 at 10:11 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 10:11 PM Antifa and the radical left realize something most of us on the right do not. We are in the beginning stages of civil war.It has been a cold civil war so far but that will probably change.Some of us have realized it since before Antifa stepped on stage. Realize it's only a matter of time. Sent from my SM-N960U using TapatalkWhat is the time table? Because I've been hearing that we are in the beginning stages of a civil war for like 35 years. Occupy, LA Riots, Gulf War II... heck the Detroit riots, DNC Chicago, Watts Riots, Great Depression, you could probably make a case that we have been in the beginning stages of a civil war since the end of the Civil War. With brief resets during WWI, WWII, the Space Race, and 9/11. Pretty sure the nation can survive Antifa without having to go full on civil war. Some people want to sell fear. Those people will always tell you that we are "right on the edge". The apocalyptic vision has been used to sell everything from insurance, to more firearms, to Kool Aid. P.S. Don't drink the Kool Aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted July 10, 2019 at 10:13 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 10:13 PM Both the R and the D half of the one party system were in cahoots here. You forgot that detail. Unlike when the law was passed and there was a split Senate, today California has a D governor and D supermajorities in both.legislatures. I'm sure they will be repealing that law any day now. Yes, just like here. Perhaps it is the size of the crowd that IGold draws that has kept them away but I have been surprised that there haven't been more antis showing up at those rallies. Honestly, I think it's the lack of reporting on IGold that keeps the Antis away. Thousands can show up to support gun rights, and you won't hear a peep, but the "moms" show up with 50 or so, and it's all over the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 10, 2019 at 10:25 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 10:25 PM Antifa and the radical left realize something most of us on the right do not. We are in the beginning stages of civil war. It has been a cold civil war so far but that will probably change. Some of us have realized it since before Antifa stepped on stage. Realize it's only a matter of time. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk What is the time table? Because I've been hearing that we are in the beginning stages of a civil war for like 35 years. Occupy, LA Riots, Gulf War II... heck the Detroit riots, DNC Chicago, Watts Riots, Great Depression, you could probably make a case that we have been in the beginning stages of a civil war since the end of the Civil War. With brief resets during WWI, WWII, the Space Race, and 9/11. Pretty sure the nation can survive Antifa without having to go full on civil war. Some people want to sell fear. Those people will always tell you that we are "right on the edge". The apocalyptic vision has been used to sell everything from insurance, to more firearms, to Kool Aid. P.S. Don't drink the Kool Aid.Like Ronald Reagan? "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same." Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted July 10, 2019 at 10:40 PM Share Posted July 10, 2019 at 10:40 PM What would the politicians think if Antifa were to declared as enemy combatants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted July 11, 2019 at 03:29 AM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 03:29 AM What would the politicians think if Antifa were to declared as enemy combatants? I'd like to see them declared a terrorist group. The question is who would do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted July 11, 2019 at 04:24 AM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 04:24 AM Go to the source: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Posted July 11, 2019 at 04:54 AM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 04:54 AM ANTIFA thrives on anonymity. The best defense is to support legislation to make wearing a mask or disguise in a demonstration a misdemeanor. If armed with a deadly weapon (including a club), make it a felony. We know that offenders can be identified from driver's license photos (and other government IDs) via facial recognition. The severity of the punishment is much less deterrent than the certainty of being arrested and charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted July 11, 2019 at 06:18 AM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 06:18 AM What else can you do? File freedom of information acts? Antifa are probably just a bunch of misfits looking for a place to fit in. They'd probably appreciate "normal" people wanting to "make friends" with them. Just look at the moms. A sad looking bunch of mean old ladies. Antifa is so pathetic they cover their faces in public.Judging by the photo in a previous post I think you are right on. The pipsqueak with the arrows has watched a bit too much Walking Dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted July 11, 2019 at 01:57 PM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 01:57 PM ANTIFA thrives on anonymity. The best defense is to support legislation to make wearing a mask or disguise in a demonstration a misdemeanor. If armed with a deadly weapon (including a club), make it a felony. We know that offenders can be identified from driver's license photos (and other government IDs) via facial recognition. The severity of the punishment is much less deterrent than the certainty of being arrested and charged.I bet they wear masks so they can be all over the news and not be identified. It would be too funny/sad to see the same faces in the crowd appearing at every event all across the country. "Oh, look! It's that Occupy Wall Street moron who crapped on a police car.....again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS1 Posted July 11, 2019 at 02:12 PM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 02:12 PM ANTIFA thrives on anonymity. The best defense is to support legislation to make wearing a mask or disguise in a demonstration a misdemeanor. If armed with a deadly weapon (including a club), make it a felony. We know that offenders can be identified from driver's license photos (and other government IDs) via facial recognition. The severity of the punishment is much less deterrent than the certainty of being arrested and charged.Yeah, great. Take away their right to privacy and free assembly. Not like it cuts both ways. Then they can ID everyone at a Pro-2A event. They can ID anyone who is open carrying in open carry legal states. Imagine the wonderful databases our benevolent big brother will have at their disposal! BTW, facial recognition can be defeated with eyeglasses/sunglasses, eye-black, and makeup. So you'd have to ban eyewear and makeup in addition to masks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearsmithy Posted July 11, 2019 at 03:11 PM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 03:11 PM Underestimate your opponent at your peril. Yeah it's easy to find pictures of some neck bearded hipster with an airsoft rifle and point and laugh. I've seen video of antifa being escorted by dudes in formation, consistent gear, bcm rifles, and comms. They were clearly trained and clearly knew what they were doing; most likely ex mil. So point and laugh all you want, just remember antifa does have REAL fighters and that's NO JOKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted July 11, 2019 at 03:16 PM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 03:16 PM ANTIFA thrives on anonymity. The best defense is to support legislation to make wearing a mask or disguise in a demonstration a misdemeanor. If armed with a deadly weapon (including a club), make it a felony. We know that offenders can be identified from driver's license photos (and other government IDs) via facial recognition. The severity of the punishment is much less deterrent than the certainty of being arrested and charged.Yeah, great. Take away their right to privacy and free assembly. Not like it cuts both ways. Then they can ID everyone at a Pro-2A event. They can ID anyone who is open carrying in open carry legal states. Imagine the wonderful databases our benevolent big brother will have at their disposal! BTW, facial recognition can be defeated with eyeglasses/sunglasses, eye-black, and makeup. So you'd have to ban eyewear and makeup in addition to masks. Yup... Be careful who you're asking the government to profile and watch, because you could be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted July 11, 2019 at 08:37 PM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 08:37 PM Underestimate your opponent at your peril. Yeah it's easy to find pictures of some neck bearded hipster with an airsoft rifle and point and laugh. I've seen video of antifa being escorted by dudes in formation, consistent gear, bcm rifles, and comms. They were clearly trained and clearly knew what they were doing; most likely ex mil. So point and laugh all you want, just remember antifa does have REAL fighters and that's NO JOKE.Do you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearsmithy Posted July 12, 2019 at 02:08 AM Share Posted July 12, 2019 at 02:08 AM Underestimate your opponent at your peril. Yeah it's easy to find pictures of some neck bearded hipster with an airsoft rifle and point and laugh. I've seen video of antifa being escorted by dudes in formation, consistent gear, bcm rifles, and comms. They were clearly trained and clearly knew what they were doing; most likely ex mil. So point and laugh all you want, just remember antifa does have REAL fighters and that's NO JOKE.Do you have a link? http://www.redwhiteandfyou.com/the-left-escalates-violence-as-antifa-arms-themselves/?fbclid=IwAR1rHWAnV7zI6P25UUKmG0HuI6b2bE_P7A3tn96drktgwinz1_-BxZt230I http://www.redwhiteandfyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/img_4467.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 12, 2019 at 02:26 AM Share Posted July 12, 2019 at 02:26 AM Underestimate your opponent at your peril. Yeah it's easy to find pictures of some neck bearded hipster with an airsoft rifle and point and laugh. I've seen video of antifa being escorted by dudes in formation, consistent gear, bcm rifles, and comms. They were clearly trained and clearly knew what they were doing; most likely ex mil. So point and laugh all you want, just remember antifa does have REAL fighters and that's NO JOKE.I doubt it. Antifa, including leadership, has been assaulting military personnel. You don't go after brothers (and sisters). https://www.foxnews.com/us/dc-antifa-leader-is-third-charged-in-marine-attack-in-philadelphia-report Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domin8 Posted July 12, 2019 at 02:28 AM Share Posted July 12, 2019 at 02:28 AM Underestimate your opponent at your peril. Yeah it's easy to find pictures of some neck bearded hipster with an airsoft rifle and point and laugh. I've seen video of antifa being escorted by dudes in formation, consistent gear, bcm rifles, and comms. They were clearly trained and clearly knew what they were doing; most likely ex mil. So point and laugh all you want, just remember antifa does have REAL fighters and that's NO JOKE. Do you have a link? http://www.redwhiteandfyou.com/the-left-escalates-violence-as-antifa-arms-themselves/?fbclid=IwAR1rHWAnV7zI6P25UUKmG0HuI6b2bE_P7A3tn96drktgwinz1_-BxZt230I Looks like a POG. Trained infantry would have a different setup. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted July 12, 2019 at 05:03 AM Share Posted July 12, 2019 at 05:03 AM The I am an anti fascist patch looks photoshopped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearsmithy Posted July 12, 2019 at 01:04 PM Share Posted July 12, 2019 at 01:04 PM The I am an anti fascist patch looks photoshopped Check out the article, there are more shots. http://www.redwhiteandfyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/img_4465.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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