BigJim Posted March 11, 2019 at 09:29 PM Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 09:29 PM With all the new ways this state is dreaming up to take away people's gun rights it got me wondering. Let's say this state enacts the bill to prohibit people who take opioids for more than 90 days from owning a gun. How would this law affect someone once they moved out of Illinois? Would having been prohibited in Illinois for a Illinois state law get you prohibited in your new home state especially if the reason you got prohibited is not an issue in your new state? Would loosing your Illinois cards over the opioid law cost you your Utah, Florida or Arizona permits while you are an Illinois resident? Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchenryill Posted March 11, 2019 at 09:54 PM Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 09:54 PM Unless I'm missing something in reading the bill, how would ISP know anyone is or isn't using prescription opioids. Are they asking for you to submit your medical records when you apply for a FOID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted March 11, 2019 at 10:10 PM Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 10:10 PM I believe pharmacies are required to report all scripts they fill for controled substances. I know my wife is a nurse and she has to account for every pill or drop of meds she handles. Some years ago a nurse on another shift was caught stealing opioids and the DEA walked her out in cuffs. They take that stuff very seriously. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchenryill Posted March 11, 2019 at 10:34 PM Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 10:34 PM I believe pharmacies are required to report all scripts they fill for controled substances. I know my wife is a nurse and she has to account for every pill or drop of meds she handles. Some years ago a nurse on another shift was caught stealing opioids and the DEA walked her out in cuffs. They take that stuff very seriously. Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkThat's on a Federal level. Medical records are still private unless requested. How would IL get records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted March 11, 2019 at 10:50 PM Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 at 10:50 PM Forget about how they get the records, I don't care about that. Let's get back to my question. If it makes it easier to answer the question then forget about opioids and think about some other example of an Illinois law that does not exist in other states. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggun 1 Posted March 12, 2019 at 03:01 AM Share Posted March 12, 2019 at 03:01 AM With all the new ways this state is dreaming up to take away people's gun rights it got me wondering. Let's say this state enacts the bill to prohibit people who take opioids for more than 90 days from owning a gun. How would this law affect someone once they moved out of Illinois? Would having been prohibited in Illinois for a Illinois state law get you prohibited in your new home state especially if the reason you got prohibited is not an issue in your new state? Would loosing your Illinois cards over the opioid law cost you your Utah, Florida or Arizona permits while you are an Illinois resident? Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalkwith all due respect,do we need to give them ideas because they read our posts every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted March 12, 2019 at 03:29 AM Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 at 03:29 AM With all the new ways this state is dreaming up to take away people's gun rights it got me wondering. Let's say this state enacts the bill to prohibit people who take opioids for more than 90 days from owning a gun. How would this law affect someone once they moved out of Illinois? Would having been prohibited in Illinois for a Illinois state law get you prohibited in your new home state especially if the reason you got prohibited is not an issue in your new state? Would loosing your Illinois cards over the opioid law cost you your Utah, Florida or Arizona permits while you are an Illinois resident? Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk with all due respect,do we need to give them ideas because they read our posts every day.As someone with a second home in another state I want to know. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted March 12, 2019 at 06:19 AM Share Posted March 12, 2019 at 06:19 AM I believe pharmacies are required to report all scripts they fill for controled substances. I know my wife is a nurse and she has to account for every pill or drop of meds she handles. Some years ago a nurse on another shift was caught stealing opioids and the DEA walked her out in cuffs. They take that stuff very seriously. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk That's on a Federal level. Medical records are still private unless requested. How would IL get records?The same way Illinois gets records for FOID and CCL. They know what they're doing and have everything planned. Good question OP, the aim of Bloomberg's minions with their avalanche of laws is to disarm as many people as possible for life with any little excuse they can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted March 12, 2019 at 02:13 PM Share Posted March 12, 2019 at 02:13 PM If I were to guess, I'd say that a law like this would be specific to IL and not enforceable in another state. A FOID is not required to own guns in any other state but IL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted March 12, 2019 at 02:59 PM Share Posted March 12, 2019 at 02:59 PM A FOID is not required to own guns in any other state but IL.MA.NY: for handguns (two flavors, ownership, carry?) NY NY: for anything Many states have a "license to purchase", which is what the IL FOID started out as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted March 12, 2019 at 04:46 PM Share Posted March 12, 2019 at 04:46 PM With all the new ways this state is dreaming up to take away people's gun rights it got me wondering. Let's say this state enacts the bill to prohibit people who take opioids for more than 90 days from owning a gun. How would this law affect someone once they moved out of Illinois? Would having been prohibited in Illinois for a Illinois state law get you prohibited in your new home state especially if the reason you got prohibited is not an issue in your new state? Would loosing your Illinois cards over the opioid law cost you your Utah, Florida or Arizona permits while you are an Illinois resident? Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk What you describe is a administrative, not a criminal action. As long as you were not convicted of a crime in Illinois, it would not have any effect in your purchasing a gun in your new state of residence. If there is a proposed law, as suggested in your statement, there is no crime in compliance. I am assuming legal drug use. If there was a record of conviction for illegal opioid use, then that would be a different matter. Then I think federal and most state laws would prohibit buying a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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