Rauner strategy

[vess1]

I was reading an article today that said Rauner made $53 million last year and has multi-million dollar homes all over the US. They say he is one of the wealthiest people to ever run for public office. Given the fact that he's been wildly successful and doesn't want for anything, why doesn't he grab all of the media attention and tell people he will donate 50% of his salary back to the general fund? Why not work for free? Donate 100% of the salary. Say he will commit it all to paying backlogged bills to nursing homes, schools, and medical providers. I'd say charity but the bills are owed right now and should take priority.

 

The governor's salary is a paltry $164k a year. What's that to Rauner? That won't pay his tax bill on a couple homes. He makes more than that in interest in a week.

I know it sounds crazy and it would be a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things but maybe it's what Illinois needs? Wouldn't it grab everybody's attention and be worth it if he really wanted to get in there and do some good?

 

Am I missing something here? I know the wealthy always want more but the govs salary is peanuts to this guy.

 

I don't believe he or Pat Quinn can relate to the average person in Illinois. He should have kept his beliefs on the minimum wage to himself. That's the last thing Rauner needs to worry about on a long list and only feeds the stereotype that will cost him votes.

[1911Guy]

Rauner has already stated that he will take no salary as governor.

[C0untZer0]

Before you can get the masses to back the notion of taking stuff away from successful people, you have to first vilify successful people.

 

It is amazing to me that politicians in Illinois who have a long track record of stealing from and fleecing tax payers can point the finger at someone who is successful and paint than as evil, by virtue of having wealth.

 

The narrative they're selling is that any one who has accumulated wealth has done so dishonestly - by exploiting the common man and that the voters need politicians to protect them from the evil rich people.

 

Last time I checked Rauner didn't take $55 million of tax payer money and use it for a vote buying scheme.

 

Who is really screwing the average hard-working, law abiding families in this state, the evil corporations or the crooked politicians?

[Archer2]

COuntZerO, I think I have a man-crush on you! Seriously, well said.

[djmarkla]

Before you can get the masses to back the notion of taking stuff away from successful people, you have to first vilify successful people.

 

It is amazing to me that politicians in Illinois who have a long track record of stealing from and fleecing tax payers can point the finger at someone who is successful and paint than as evil, by virtue of having wealth.

 

The narrative they're selling is that any one who has accumulated wealth has done so dishonestly - by exploiting the common man and that the voters need politicians to protect them from the evil rich people.

 

Last time I checked Rauner didn't take $55 million of tax payer money and use it for a vote buying scheme.

 

Who is really screwing the average hard-working, law abiding families in this state, the evil corporations or the crooked politicians?

Amen!

[papa]

" He should have kept his beliefs on the minimum wage to himself."

My oldest sister made a comment about this ad that's being played on TV. She said there was no way she would vote for anyone who thought like that.

 

Yes we had a conversation about politics in Illinois but I'm not sure I made any headway.

[spec5]

Before you can get the masses to back the notion of taking stuff away from successful people, you have to first vilify successful people.

 

It is amazing to me that politicians in Illinois who have a long track record of stealing from and fleecing tax payers can point the finger at someone who is successful and paint than as evil, by virtue of having wealth.

 

The narrative they're selling is that any one who has accumulated wealth has done so dishonestly - by exploiting the common man and that the voters need politicians to protect them from the evil rich people.

 

Last time I checked Rauner didn't take $55 million of tax payer money and use it for a vote buying scheme.

 

Who is really screwing the average hard-working, law abiding families in this state, the evil corporations or the crooked politicians?

This^^^^^

[mostholycerebus]

Am I missing something here? I know the wealthy always want more but the govs salary is peanuts to this guy.

 

This is an attitude only found among the wealthy?

[Beezil]

One of the most disappointing new trends in American society is that it has become fashionable to hate the wealthy and successful. Furthermore, this trend has matured into one of the biggest double-standards there is....It's okay to be Al Gore rich, or Teresa Heinz rich, or Obama rich or Clinton rich.....

 

but if you are Rauner rich, you must have gotten to that point by stealing, disenfranchising, exploiting, or afflicting the working class.

 

It's disgusting.

 

 

[BigJim]

" He should have kept his beliefs on the minimum wage to himself."

 

My oldest sister made a comment about this ad that's being played on TV. She said there was no way she would vote for anyone who thought like that.

 

Yes we had a conversation about politics in Illinois but I'm not sure I made any headway.

You should have had a conversation about how the minimum wage is bad for the economy.

[JavaBob]

Before you can get the masses to back the notion of taking stuff away from successful people, you have to first vilify successful people.

 

It is amazing to me that politicians in Illinois who have a long track record of stealing from and fleecing tax payers can point the finger at someone who is successful and paint than as evil, by virtue of having wealth.

 

The narrative they're selling is that any one who has accumulated wealth has done so dishonestly - by exploiting the common man and that the voters need politicians to protect them from the evil rich people.

 

Last time I checked Rauner didn't take $55 million of tax payer money and use it for a vote buying scheme.

 

Who is really screwing the average hard-working, law abiding families in this state, the evil corporations or the crooked politicians?

Correct...he has my vote..

[sirflyguy]

Before you can get the masses to back the notion of taking stuff away from successful people, you have to first vilify successful people.

 

It is amazing to me that politicians in Illinois who have a long track record of stealing from and fleecing tax payers can point the finger at someone who is successful and paint than as evil, by virtue of having wealth.

 

The narrative they're selling is that any one who has accumulated wealth has done so dishonestly - by exploiting the common man and that the voters need politicians to protect them from the evil rich people.

 

Last time I checked Rauner didn't take $55 million of tax payer money and use it for a vote buying scheme.

 

Who is really screwing the average hard-working, law abiding families in this state, the evil corporations or the crooked politicians?

Jealousy and envy are the lifeblood of class warfare. All the while, the jealous and envious are used to further political agendas, thus sealing their fate as always remaining jealous and envious because they can never get out of the pit that their overlords have put them in.

[Sigma]

what can we do collectively to support his campaign

[tchostler]

Quinn's gonna eat his lunch.

[BobPistol]

Rauner has already stated that he will take no salary as governor.

 

He needs to put that in a campaign commercial.

[G214me]

My biggest questions are why does he want to be Governor of this sinking ship in the first place ? why does he want to be captain of the Titanic AFTER it has hit the ice berg ? why has he sunk 6 million plus dollars of his own money into getting a job that won't return the investment ? ( or will it ? ). if I was a billionaire I'd be retired on my island rubbing sun tan lotion on my harem, not playing games with Rahm, Madigan, etc.

 

What changes will we see with Madigan still keeping anything he doesn't want from getting voted on ? as far as Quinn goes, I hope he ends up in prison and I would vote for my daughters Beta fish before I would vote for Quinn.

[G214me]

 

Rauner has already stated that he will take no salary as governor.

 

He needs to put that in a campaign commercial.

 

We can use the yearly salary to pay 6 hours worth of interest on the debt.

[BobPistol]

My biggest questions are why does he want to be Governor of this sinking ship in the first place ?

 

For the same reason Quinn wants the job.

 

Power.

[G214me]

One thing I DO like about Rauner is that he ( allegedly ) skipped out on paying a bunch of taxes. As a guy that takes every tax break I can I can't complain about someone doing the same thing. besides he's paid more in taxes so far than I'll make in a lifetime. and if he didn't ( allegedly ) skip out on paying all that dough it would have went right into the black hole never to be seen again, at least if he keeps it it will get invested in markets and spent which are drivers of the economy.

 

The sheep voters need to get a clue, getting angry because someone didn't pay plenty of taxes is like getting angry that a mugging victim got to keep his watch after being robbed for his wallet.

[BobPistol]

The sheep voters need to get a clue, getting angry because someone didn't pay plenty of taxes is like getting angry that a mugging victim got to keep his watch after being robbed for his wallet.

 

Especially when the Leftocrats were also skipping out paying their taxes (Like Timmy Geithner) and the same people were letting him pass.

[Tompo]

One thing I DO like about Rauner is that he ( allegedly ) skipped out on paying a bunch of taxes. As a guy that takes every tax break I can I can't complain about someone doing the same thing. besides he's paid more in taxes so far than I'll make in a lifetime. and if he didn't ( allegedly ) skip out on paying all that dough it would have went right into the black hole never to be seen again, at least if he keeps it it will get invested in markets and spent which are drivers of the economy.

 

The sheep voters need to get a clue, getting angry because someone didn't pay plenty of taxes is like getting angry that a mugging victim got to keep his watch after being robbed for his wallet.

 

 

Stashing money in the Caymen islands does not drive the US economy.

[yyyz]

 

" He should have kept his beliefs on the minimum wage to himself."

 

My oldest sister made a comment about this ad that's being played on TV. She said there was no way she would vote for anyone who thought like that.

 

Yes we had a conversation about politics in Illinois but I'm not sure I made any headway.

You should have had a conversation about how the minimum wage is bad for the economy.

 

 

Here is a link to a cute cartoon that I ran across a while back dealing with teh minimum wage...

http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/04/cartoon-lefts-latest-jobs-strategy/?fb_action_ids=10202944450515379&fb_action_types=og.shares

 

There was also an article that I read that stated that McDonalds in Europe has purchased 62,000 cashier machines for their stores - guess what will happen to the current cashiers. They also apparently have a similar store here in Illinois.

 

Another article states that there is a machine available that will make the hamburgers with the exact ingredients as ordered through the electronic cashiers.

 

More than likely, a $15 or maybe even a $10 minimum wage will only go to reduce the number of jobs available.

[chislinger]

You should have had a conversation about how the minimum wage is bad for the economy.

I think that misses the whole point. In the very short run it may be bad for the economy, but in the long run it is neutral. The reason it is neutral is that raising minimum wage simply pushes wages up across the board, which causes prices to increase, which eventually leaves everyone exactly where they started. The new higher minimum wage will still leave you in poverty.

 

The fact is raising minimum wage has never decreased poverty. Minimum wage is a political tool that appeals to those unable to think deeper than a slogan on a bumper sticker.

 

What does decrease poverty is more jobs, which will cause incomes to rise via market forces. That's the message Rauner should be sending, but he's already stuck his foot in his mouth with his idiotic statement. And Quinn is scoring big in the polls by concentrating on this issue that Rauner handed him on a silver platter.

[chislinger]

Stashing money in the Caymen islands does not drive the US economy.

Exactly. Which is why we need to stop taxing money earned and already taxed overseas in the country in which it was earned when it is brought to the USA. No other OECD country does this, it puts the US companies at a distinct disadvantage and discourages investment in the USA.

 

Why on earth would you support such a policy?

[Tompo]

 

Stashing money in the Caymen islands does not drive the US economy.

Exactly. Which is why we need to stop taxing money earned and already taxed overseas in the country in which it was earned when it is brought to the USA. No other OECD country does this, it puts the US companies at a distinct disadvantage and discourages investment in the USA.

 

Why on earth would you support such a policy?

 

 

 

 

Stashing money that's already been taxed--as you said--does nothing to drive the US economy. It's not available to be invested in US markets. It's only being held offshore to prevent taxes on earnings.

[papa]

 

 

" He should have kept his beliefs on the minimum wage to himself."

 

My oldest sister made a comment about this ad that's being played on TV. She said there was no way she would vote for anyone who thought like that.

 

Yes we had a conversation about politics in Illinois but I'm not sure I made any headway.

You should have had a conversation about how the minimum wage is bad for the economy.

 

 

Here is a link to a cute cartoon that I ran across a while back dealing with teh minimum wage...

http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/04/cartoon-lefts-latest-jobs-strategy/?fb_action_ids=10202944450515379&fb_action_types=og.shares

 

There was also an article that I read that stated that McDonalds in Europe has purchased 62,000 cashier machines for their stores - guess what will happen to the current cashiers. They also apparently have a similar store here in Illinois.

 

Another article states that there is a machine available that will make the hamburgers with the exact ingredients as ordered through the electronic cashiers.

 

More than likely, a $15 or maybe even a $10 minimum wage will only go to reduce the number of jobs available.

 

 

I discussed all that with my sister. Some people just can't connect the dots.

[Tango7]

The respect I had for Warren Buffet vanished when he climbed aboard the "tax me, tax me more, I'm a naughty CEO" bandwagon.

 

My dislike was fueled by his support for increases in the income (earned wages) tax, which is the minority of his revenue; it was compounded by the fact that he was fighting an IRS judgment at the same time he was bemoaning that he wasn't paying enough... the same as the {D}emagogues in Washington and Springfield who propose such ideas.

 

How many of the guilty millionaires who have parroted this latest cry have ever had their accountant check the "voluntary contribution to reduce the public debt" box on a 1040?

[chislinger]

Stashing money that's already been taxed--as you said--does nothing to drive the US economy. It's not available to be invested in US markets. It's only being held offshore to prevent taxes on earnings.

It's being held offshore awaiting an overseas investment opportunity. If it could be brought to the USA tax-free it could be invested in the USA.

 

Why don't you want this money to be brought into the USA and invested here?

 

Foreign companies can bring their money into the USA tax-free, thus giving them a competitive advantage both here and abroad. You think this is sound tax policy?

[Tango7]

Why do we feel it is a sound policy to punish success and reward inactivity in this country?

[anonymous too]

Stashing money that's already been taxed--as you said--does nothing to drive the US economy. It's not available to be invested in US markets. It's only being held offshore to prevent taxes on earnings.

 

It's not your money or the governments.

 

Why is it wrong for a person to do what they so choose to do with their money?

 

Exceptions being illegal activities like running drugs, financing terrorism, and other such criminal activities.