2smartby1/2 Posted April 6, 2019 at 01:19 AM Share Posted April 6, 2019 at 01:19 AM Sweet Jebus.... https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/437665-texas-gop-leaders-drop-constitutional-carry-bill-after-gun-rights Texas's Republican House Speaker on Friday moved to drop the state's "constitutional carry" legislation after a gun rights activist showed up at his home to push for the bill.Dennis Bonnen said the bill was "dead" after Chris McNutt, the executive director of Texas Gun Rights, appeared at his home to advocate for the controversial legislation that would allow Texans to carry firearms without a license, The Dallas Morning News reported. This just screams for a gif montage.... http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Edward-Norton-Closing-Laptop.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted April 6, 2019 at 01:20 AM Share Posted April 6, 2019 at 01:20 AM BS excuse. Had that guy gave him a bribe campaign contribution, he'd be singing a different tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted April 6, 2019 at 02:42 AM Share Posted April 6, 2019 at 02:42 AM I will agree showing up at the official's home was way inappropriate and stupid.I also believe the house speaker was looking for an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted April 6, 2019 at 06:00 AM Share Posted April 6, 2019 at 06:00 AM I will agree showing up at the official's home was way inappropriate and stupid.I also believe the house speaker was looking for an excuse. ^^^ This! ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted April 6, 2019 at 11:15 AM Share Posted April 6, 2019 at 11:15 AM So I think I know (not personally) what happens if you show up as an unwelcome guest to a speakers house. Where's the police report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted April 6, 2019 at 01:29 PM Share Posted April 6, 2019 at 01:29 PM I will agree showing up at the official's home was way inappropriate and stupid.I also believe the house speaker was looking for an excuse. ^^^ This! ^^^ And the idiot definitely gave it to him. Really dumb move for several reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond963 Posted April 6, 2019 at 04:59 PM Share Posted April 6, 2019 at 04:59 PM I will agree showing up at the official's home was way inappropriate and stupid.I also believe the house speaker was looking for an excuse. Likely either a former drill instructor or prison guard. Punish them all until the one straightens up! (I'm not advocating for a blanket party) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted April 7, 2019 at 08:34 PM Share Posted April 7, 2019 at 08:34 PM Surely other elected reps in that state can do something to prevent this from occurring, especially if there is widespread constituency support for the bill, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted April 7, 2019 at 08:47 PM Share Posted April 7, 2019 at 08:47 PM Surely other elected reps in that state can do something to prevent this from occurring, especially if there is widespread constituency support for the bill, yes? The leaders of legislative bodies control the agenda. If the leader doesn't want a bill to come to a vote, the body can typically force it onto the agenda. Leaders also control committee assignments (and in Illinois they control campaign funding, but that's not true in every other - or necessarily any other - state), so legislators openly oppose their leaders at the peril of their political careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted April 7, 2019 at 10:18 PM Share Posted April 7, 2019 at 10:18 PM This is only an excuse to do it, not a reason. This maggot was looking for an excuse to drop it and took advantage of this. He should be thrown out of office for being a liar and hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted April 8, 2019 at 01:08 AM Share Posted April 8, 2019 at 01:08 AM BS excuse. Had that guy gave him a bribe campaign contribution, he'd be singing a different tune. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted April 8, 2019 at 03:58 AM Share Posted April 8, 2019 at 03:58 AM It was a complete (and MISREPRESENTED) set-up. Better yet, the "accused" has the COPS guarding that creep politician's house as sworn witnesses as to what actually happened. He was HANDBILLING HIS NEIGHBORHOOD about the issue that weekend. There was never any attempt at a face to face confrontation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted April 8, 2019 at 04:15 AM Share Posted April 8, 2019 at 04:15 AM It was a complete (and MISREPRESENTED) set-up. Better yet, the "accused" has the COPS guarding that creep politician's house as sworn witnesses as to what actually happened. He was HANDBILLING HIS NEIGHBORHOOD about the issue that weekend. There was never any attempt at a face to face confrontation. Do you have a link to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted April 8, 2019 at 05:06 AM Share Posted April 8, 2019 at 05:06 AM It was a complete (and MISREPRESENTED) set-up. Better yet, the "accused" has the COPS guarding that creep politician's house as sworn witnesses as to what actually happened. He was HANDBILLING HIS NEIGHBORHOOD about the issue that weekend. There was never any attempt at a face to face confrontation. Wait, what? I need to see the source on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted April 8, 2019 at 08:07 AM Share Posted April 8, 2019 at 08:07 AM Wait, what? I need to see the source on that! There is always two sides to the story, but if you read the media accounts carefully and combine it with his account there sure appears no face to face was attempted, in fact it appears he was simply handbilling the neighborhoods of a few legislators and that act got those legislators panties in a tissy and considered that crossing the line because it was too close to their homes. https://www.facebook.com/TexasGunRights/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted April 8, 2019 at 07:49 PM Share Posted April 8, 2019 at 07:49 PM Wait, what? I need to see the source on that! There is always two sides to the story, but if you read the media accounts carefully and combine it with his account there sure appears no face to face was attempted, in fact it appears he was simply handbilling the neighborhoods of a few legislators and that act got those legislators panties in a tissy and considered that crossing the line because it was too close to their homes. https://www.facebook.com/TexasGunRights/ I don't have a Facebook page and that link requires a login with a Facebook account. Can you copy and past it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twostarrz Posted April 8, 2019 at 08:02 PM Share Posted April 8, 2019 at 08:02 PM Here’s a link to what I believe is the rebuttal to the story.https://txgunrights.org/latest-news/txgr-executive-director-chris-mcnutt-exposes-dennis-bonnen-the-medias-lies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted April 8, 2019 at 08:35 PM Share Posted April 8, 2019 at 08:35 PM I don't have a Facebook page and that link requires a login with a Facebook account. Can you copy and past it? He explains his side in a video so no copy and paste, but you can get a quick overview of it here as well. https://txgunrights.org/latest-news/speaker-bonnen-is-advancing-gun-control/ A short synopsis is that this individual started to canvas the neighborhoods of select legislatures handing out handbills to their neighbors and constituents pointing out that they were stalling on this bill and not keeping their promises to advance it, he has been doing this for weeks and has been very public about it. Speaker Bonnen knowing he was likely on the list of targeted neighborhoods requested his house be put under police surveillance, and when this guy showed up in the neighborhood to hand out his fliers he was confronted by those police that were waiting for him, he apparently handed them the police a business card and that was that. Once the 'sting' Bonnen setup was tripped he authored his own 'confronting me at my home' narrative and pushed that to the media. Notice the playbook anti-gun spin Speaker Bonnen put on this from articles leaning towards him, and notice that the words are carefully chosen to suggest that it was a face to face confrontation even though it wasn't since he was 100s of miles away. He is also injecting the 'fear of his young children' for the emotional appeal and his wife has gone full LWW afraid of pictures of guns on a shirt! “You’re also showing up with a T-shirt with a machine gun on it,” she said, adding that the visit was “freaking me out…This cannot become how we advocate.” https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/State-troopers-intercept-gun-rights-activist-at-13743180.php I'm not saying I agree with the guys tactics, as it was bound to create a backlash, but what he did was simply exercise his 1st (agree or now with how he did it) and the legislators are upset because he took exercising his 1st directly to their constituents and neighbors (aka hit home) as evidenced in the quote below where Bonnen seems to think that all political activism and political debate should be limited to the capital building only! "If you want to talk about issues and you want to advocate, you do it in this building. You don’t do it at our residences," https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-house-speaker-declares-constitutional-carry-bill-dead-after-gun-rights-activist-shows-up-at-his-home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted April 8, 2019 at 11:59 PM Share Posted April 8, 2019 at 11:59 PM But when the left protest outside a conservative's house or interupts a conservative's meal or threatens their family that's not only alright but encouraged. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted April 9, 2019 at 04:52 AM Share Posted April 9, 2019 at 04:52 AM But when the left protest outside a conservative's house or interupts a conservative's meal or threatens their family that's not only alright but encouraged. Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkExactly. These are PUBLIC officials. No more no less. The guy can handbill anywhere he is legally allowed to.which should be anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oohrah Posted April 9, 2019 at 11:18 AM Share Posted April 9, 2019 at 11:18 AM There's a lot going on here which would take too long to explain. Bottom line is this guy did not do us any favors. There are some fringe gun rights groups here that seem to get all the press, but are not well respected by the majority of gun owners/carriers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted April 9, 2019 at 02:29 PM Share Posted April 9, 2019 at 02:29 PM Sounds like Speaker Bonnen should replace that ® after his name with a (D) because what he did was right out of the Democrats playbook. He was looking for any excuse to kill this bill and found it. What a crock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted April 9, 2019 at 03:43 PM Share Posted April 9, 2019 at 03:43 PM Now that this RINO Bonnen has killed the bill every gun owner in Texas should gather outside his house and protest him. I would add if OC is legal in Texas the protesters should all open carry while doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted April 9, 2019 at 07:00 PM Share Posted April 9, 2019 at 07:00 PM ... I would add if OC is legal in Texas the protesters should all open carry while doing it. Open carry is legal in TX for people who have a license to carry. TX honors just about every other state's license, too, including IL CCL. Although there are some places where open carry is prohibited even with a license, public roads and sidewalks aren't among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted April 10, 2019 at 02:24 PM Share Posted April 10, 2019 at 02:24 PM Yeah, the more I read about this incident, the more I realize it's BS. Fake news. This Chris McNutt guy never went to Dennis Bonnen's house to confront him. He was just canvassing the neighborhood's in his district, passing out information and happened to get near Bonnen's house. Bonnen lied about the whole thing and used it as an excuse to kill the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted April 15, 2019 at 03:19 AM Share Posted April 15, 2019 at 03:19 AM Yeah, the more I read about this incident, the more I realize it's BS. Fake news. This Chris McNutt guy never went to Dennis Bonnen's house to confront him. He was just canvassing the neighborhood's in his district, passing out information and happened to get near Bonnen's house. Bonnen lied about the whole thing and used it as an excuse to kill the bill. Exactly. In the link to the interview Twostarrz posted in #17, McNutt stated that he had no F2F with the speaker. He also pointed out that killing this bill had apparently been the speaker's intention all along. That's why he appointed an anti-gun activist to chair the committee that was supposed to review the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcc Posted April 29, 2019 at 01:31 AM Share Posted April 29, 2019 at 01:31 AM Here is what really happened. Dennis Bonnen is a liar and apparently a Fudd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted April 29, 2019 at 01:53 AM Share Posted April 29, 2019 at 01:53 AM Well the video confirms Speaker Bonnen (and his family) was authoring a ficticious and slanderous narrative against gun rights and this individual, every gun rights group that endorsed him (there are plenty) should immediately revoke that endorsement and give him an F rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS1 Posted April 29, 2019 at 07:12 PM Share Posted April 29, 2019 at 07:12 PM "If you want to talk about issues and you want to advocate, you do it in this building. You don’t do it at our residences," Don't know about Texas but I've got a worn out doorbell and 2 reams of asinine mailings from the last campaign that I never asked for. Seems like this is a case of happy to dish it out but can't take it. "It" being sending someone door to door asking for votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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