For those not following the daily legislative thread, SB0607 had its 3rd reading today and passed the Senate 52/0/0.
Now on to the House!
Yes. And I just wrote an email to my state rep. I'll also call her in the morning.
Posted 05 April 2017 - 09:55 PM
For those not following the daily legislative thread, SB0607 had its 3rd reading today and passed the Senate 52/0/0.
Now on to the House!
Yes. And I just wrote an email to my state rep. I'll also call her in the morning.
Posted 08 April 2017 - 10:41 AM
Bump. I (personally) am more likely to purchase a knife than a suppressor. Just saying.
Posted 08 April 2017 - 11:58 AM
Bump. I (personally) am more likely to purchase a knife than a suppressor. Just saying.
Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:38 PM
QFTBump. I (personally) am more likely to purchase a knife than a suppressor. Just saying.
And it falls well within the scope of the 2A--knives are "arms."
yea everyone makes fun of the redneck till the zombies show up. . .
Posted 08 April 2017 - 01:43 PM
Edited by Jam77, 08 April 2017 - 01:44 PM.
Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:09 PM
Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:26 PM
Just curious why time and resources are wasted on pushing for a automatic knife bill ? Maybe it's just me but I would much rather be able to buy a suppressor or build a sbr without going through the c&r thing. I just think resources are much better spent on more desirable things. Just my opinion but what good is a knife when the other guy can just pull a pistol with 15 rounds in the magazine ?
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Posted 08 April 2017 - 04:49 PM
Had not heard about who was driving it but it doesnt surprise me. Ive read of other anti auto knife laws being successfully repealed or amended already this year in other states. Just like suppressors, the legislators have been watching too many movies!Gotta respect the fact that different groups have different priorities.I'm told this is being promoted by Knife Rights, a group working to repeal anti-knife laws nationwide.
Edited by InterestedBystander, 08 April 2017 - 04:59 PM.
Posted 08 April 2017 - 05:40 PM
Posted 08 April 2017 - 06:27 PM
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I see the bill has gone to the House rules committee and has a House sponsor. Does it get a new or modified number or simply stay as SB0607 while tracking it through the House process?
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Posted 08 April 2017 - 06:52 PM
I don't understand why they are so hung up on passing this law. We already have spring assisted knives that open with one hand.
Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:08 PM
I don't understand why they are so hung up on passing this law. We already have spring assisted knives that open with one hand.
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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:44 PM
Posted 08 April 2017 - 08:18 PM
There is no logical reason to prohibit.
No reason to prohibit? We will never forget
Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:18 PM
I don't understand why they are so hung up on passing this law. We already have spring assisted knives that open with one hand.
People wonder the same thing about us wanting so many different calibers. It's all protected.. They just want their rights back the same as we do.
Mauserme , you misunderstood my comment. I was talking about the politiicians throwing the block on this bill. I would love to have an automatic myself.
I agree with your comment about getting our rights back in all forms.
Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:25 PM
You asked "what good is a knife when the other guy can just pull a pistol with 15 rounds in the magazine?"Just curious why time and resources are wasted on pushing for a automatic knife bill ? Maybe it's just me but I would much rather be able to buy a suppressor or build a sbr without going through the c&r thing. I just think resources are much better spent on more desirable things. Just my opinion but what good is a knife when the other guy can just pull a pistol with 15 rounds in the magazine ?
Edited by OldMarineVet, 08 April 2017 - 09:35 PM.
Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:31 PM
Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:34 PM
Mauserme , you misunderstood my comment. I was talking about the politiicians throwing the block on this bill. I would love to have an automatic myself.I don't understand why they are so hung up on passing this law. We already have spring assisted knives that open with one hand.
People wonder the same thing about us wanting so many different calibers. It's all protected.. They just want their rights back the same as we do.
I agree with your comment about getting our rights back in all forms.
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Posted 09 April 2017 - 12:01 PM
My concern with this bill as written is that many cities have local ordinances that make switchblades illegal also. I don't see anything in the text of the bill that preempts local ordinances.
So even if we get this passed, it may not change things in all practicality. I can't own one in my town, or in the neighboring city I have to drive through to get to work.
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Posted 09 April 2017 - 03:09 PM
Good point. Surprised something like that didn't get caught by the knife rights people, although I suppose there could have been some protest by one side during negotiation. I'd guess many of those local restrictions are mostly in the Chicago or heavily populated urban areas.My concern with this bill as written is that many cities have local ordinances that make switchblades illegal also. I don't see anything in the text of the bill that preempts local ordinances.
So even if we get this passed, it may not change things in all practicality. I can't own one in my town, or in the neighboring city I have to drive through to get to work.
-- Frank
Edited by InterestedBystander, 09 April 2017 - 03:32 PM.
Posted 09 April 2017 - 05:40 PM
My concern with this bill as written is that many cities have local ordinances that make switchblades illegal also. I don't see anything in the text of the bill that preempts local ordinances.
So even if we get this passed, it may not change things in all practicality. I can't own one in my town, or in the neighboring city I have to drive through to get to work.
-- FrankGood point. Surprised something like that didn't get caught by the knife rights people, although I suppose there could have been some protest by one side during negotiation. I'd guess many of those local restrictions are mostly in the Chicago or heavily populated urban areas.
They could always propose a House amendment but then it would need to go back to the Senate again which is how the bill died last year iirc.
I would consider contacting my house rep but they are the type that would ban pop tarts because they could be eaten into the shape of a gun so I fully expect a negative vote on this bill from them.
Looked at the 2015 and 2016 versions of this bill and none of them had preemption language either
Posted 09 April 2017 - 05:46 PM
Posted 09 April 2017 - 05:49 PM
It could be that the knife rights folks understand that an issue like this is more palatable in small doses. You want maximum opposition? Tell Chicago they don't get to have a say in it...
Posted 12 April 2017 - 01:42 PM
I don't understand why they are so hung up on passing this law. We already have spring assisted knives that open with one hand.
Hi papa ... I'm hoping the switchblade law passes ... as I've stated before, I had polio as a child and walk with forearm crutches. Yes, I have a CCL, and have gotten fairly good at drawing my weapon but hope to heck I don't ever have to pull it because I'm far from fast. Figure I might have the element of surprise walking with crutches. I plan on going down with a fight.
On the other hand, I'd probably use a switchblade knife every day, multiple times a day. I'm constantly using a knife to open packages, taking items out of blister packs or cutting grandkids presents off their packaging.
I currently carry a variety of spring-assisted knifes ... but it would be easier to open a switchblade with the single press of a button.
I'm old enough to remember the days when I had a switchblade ... and hope to own and carry another in the near future.
However, in tracking the latest progress in the house, the bill has been referred to the rules committee ... of the five representatives, three are democrats (two of them from Chicago).
So I'm hoping the bill doesn't die on the vine ... as it has done in the past.
Edited by Tod, 12 April 2017 - 01:47 PM.
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Posted 12 April 2017 - 01:47 PM
I don't understand why they are so hung up on passing this law. We already have spring assisted knives that open with one hand.
Hi papa ... I'm hoping the switchblade law passes ... as I've stated before, I had polio as a child and walk with forearm crutches. Yes, I have a CCL, and have gotten fairly good at drawing my weapon but hope to heck I don't ever have to pull it because I'm far from fast. Figure I might have the element of surprise walking with crutches. I plan on going down with a fight.
On the other hand, I'd probably use a switchblade knife every day, multiple times a day. I'm constantly using a knife to open packages, taking items out of blister packs or cutting grandkids presents off their packaging.
I currently carry a variety of spring-assisted knifes ... but it was be easier to open a switchblade with the single press of a button.
I'm old enough to remember the days when I had a switchblade ... and hope to own and carry another in the near future.
However, in tracking the latest progress in the house, the bill has been referred to the rules committee ... of the five representatives, three are democrats (two of them from Chicago).
So I'm hoping the bill doesn't die on the vine ... as it has done in the past.
I hope you read post 75. I also want an automatic and believe in all 2A rights being restored.
Posted 12 April 2017 - 09:18 PM
well, if made law, they will just have to add a knife to the pistol and make it a weapons free zone....
Posted 03 May 2017 - 07:57 PM
Edited by InterestedBystander, 04 May 2017 - 09:43 AM.
Posted 03 May 2017 - 09:02 PM
well, if made law, they will just have to add a knife to the pistol and make it a weapons free zone....
My police stations and VA Hospital already has that sign. Has a picture of a pistol and a knife and says No Weapons Allowed
Posted 03 May 2017 - 11:18 PM
Am I the only one who has filed a witness slip on this? What are you waiting for?
Posted 04 May 2017 - 12:30 AM
Am I the only one who has filed a witness slip on this? What are you waiting for?
Done.
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