HB0333 JUV-SUBSEQUENT FIREARM OFFENSE

[InterestedBystander]

HB0333 JUV-SUBSEQUENT FIREARM OFFENSE

 

http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=333&GAID=15&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=114497&SessionID=108&GA=101

 

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Juvenile Court Act of 1987. Provides that if a minor has previously been placed on probation for an offense that involves the use or possession of a firearm, the court may not place the minor on probation for any subsequent offense involving the use or possession of a firearm. Provides that a minor convicted of a subsequent offense involving the use or possession of a firearm shall result in a mandatory sentence of no less than 6 months confinement to the Department of Juvenile Justice with the Department providing services including, but not limited to, education, mental health, drug treatment, and mentoring.

[steveTA84]

So basically, getting caught underage for a firearm offence a 2nd time will result in a mandatory sentence?

[Patriots & Tyrants]

So basically, getting caught underage for a firearm offence a 2nd time will result in a mandatory sentence?

 

That is how I read it; no more getting away with multiple carjacking convictions so long as you are under 18 in Cook County.

[mikeyk101]

Looks good in paper but if it passes, how do they force/guarantee Crook County judges to abide by it? They already feel that many of the Illinois laws now dont apply and do what they want...

[Flynn]

So basically, getting caught underage for a firearm offence a 2nd time will result in a mandatory sentence?

 

In theory yes, in practice no, you can place your bets now that the bleeding heart prosecutors and judges will avoid that second 'gun conviction' that would invoke the mandatory clause and instead allow the offenders to plead out to lesser charges resulting in no confinement or 2nd strike applicable to that law.

 

What the law should say is any conviction (misdemeanor or felony) while on probation for a gun crime results in mandatory 6 months on top of whatever time is left on their probation in confinement. Because until they actually crack the whip and show they are serious these delinquents won't change their ways.

[TomKoz]

Dems won’t allow it ! Detrimental to their voter base.

[steveTA84]

Dems won’t allow it ! Detrimental to their voter base.

A dem introduced it though.

[TRJ]

You can bet Flowers will be talking about how this bill will be used to lock up the "babies" in her community. Not with Foxx deciding on who to charge and prosecute.

 

My feeling is that the prosecutor involved in not charging one of these punks needs to be charged with endangering the public if they pass on charging repeat offenders who go on to kill someone.

[C0untZer0]

This legislation isn't going anywhere

 

If you want to see how this would have played out just replay the house sessions regarding the "Safe Neighborhoods Act"

 

I don't even know if this will ever get out of committee. The Illinois Legislative Black Caucus will talk to Madigan to have it halted. If it ever does reach the house floor, the Illinois Legislative Black Caucus will gut this legislation so that it aligns with their viewpoint that carjackers, thieves, rapists, burglars, robbers and muggers are not actually criminals - they're victims of social and economic injustice, and the answer isn't incarceration, the answer is more social programs and money poured into these communities.

[tseeker]

Looks like yet another clever way to put more butts in the seats of psychologists/social workers...

 

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[Bird76Mojo]

They'll probably start handing out court supervision for the first offense, and then probation for the second offense.

[tricolor]

Or plead the defendant to something else entirely, bypassing the amended statute altogether.

[Glock23]

 

So basically, getting caught underage for a firearm offence a 2nd time will result in a mandatory sentence?

 

 

 

In theory yes, in practice no, you can place your bets now that the bleeding heart prosecutors and judges will avoid that second 'gun conviction' that would invoke the mandatory clause and instead allow the offenders to plead out to lesser charges resulting in no confinement or 2nd strike applicable to that law.

 

What the law should say is any conviction (misdemeanor or felony) while on probation for a gun crime results in mandatory 6 months on top of whatever time is left on their probation in confinement. Because until they actually crack the whip and show they are serious these delinquents won't change their ways.

And add to the UUW and AUUW statutes that gun crimes cannot be dropped in exchange for a guilty plea to other offenses.

 

If it's chargeable, either own up to it with your other crimes or defend against it in court.

[Flynn]

 

So basically, getting caught underage for a firearm offence a 2nd time will result in a mandatory sentence?

 

 

 

In theory yes, in practice no, you can place your bets now that the bleeding heart prosecutors and judges will avoid that second 'gun conviction' that would invoke the mandatory clause and instead allow the offenders to plead out to lesser charges resulting in no confinement or 2nd strike applicable to that law.

 

What the law should say is any conviction (misdemeanor or felony) while on probation for a gun crime results in mandatory 6 months on top of whatever time is left on their probation in confinement. Because until they actually crack the whip and show they are serious these delinquents won't change their ways.

And add to the UUW and AUUW statutes that gun crimes cannot be dropped in exchange for a guilty plea to other offenses.

 

If it's chargeable, either own up to it with your other crimes or defend against it in court.

 

 

Sounds good to me!