Awan Posted September 24, 2016 at 07:05 PM Share Posted September 24, 2016 at 07:05 PM Today, I received letters from ISP revoking my FOID and my Concealed Carry License. The letter states I have 48 hours to surrender the Concealed Carry License to the local law enforcement agency where I reside. It goes on the state "Failure to surrender your license may result in the issuance of a warrant for your arrest." The FOID revocation letter states I must complete a Firearm Disposition Record, disclosing the make, model, and serial number of each firearm owned by or under the control or custody of the revoked person. I have 48 hours of receiving the notice to comply with the notice. I am so distraught! It took them 14 months to figure out I am no longer a resident of Illinois! I suppose I should contact them to ensure they don't issue a warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted September 24, 2016 at 07:16 PM Share Posted September 24, 2016 at 07:16 PM Today, I received letters from ISP revoking my FOID and my Concealed Carry License. The letter states I have 48 hours to surrender the Concealed Carry License to the local law enforcement agency where I reside. It goes on the state "Failure to surrender your license may result in the issuance of a warrant for your arrest." The FOID revocation letter states I must complete a Firearm Disposition Record, disclosing the make, model, and serial number of each firearm owned by or under the control or custody of the revoked person. I have 48 hours of receiving the notice to comply with the notice. I am so distraught! It took them 14 months to figure out I am no longer a resident of Illinois! I suppose I should contact them to ensure they don't issue a warrant. I wonder if they'll agree to let you mail them back? I'd ask and mail them certified mail (or registered} return receipt requested. I was thinking it would be a bummer if you were outside Illinois on vacation for a couple of weeks and the ISP sent a revocation letter like you got, and you were pulled over in a traffic stop and they'd issued a warrant for your arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEALTH Posted September 24, 2016 at 07:37 PM Share Posted September 24, 2016 at 07:37 PM This is a little confusing. Did you get a new license in a new state? Are we now required to send it all back once we move? No more frame it on the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted September 24, 2016 at 07:40 PM Share Posted September 24, 2016 at 07:40 PM Today, I received letters from ISP revoking my FOID and my Concealed Carry License. The letter states I have 48 hours to surrender the Concealed Carry License to the local law enforcement agency where I reside. It goes on the state "Failure to surrender your license may result in the issuance of a warrant for your arrest." The FOID revocation letter states I must complete a Firearm Disposition Record, disclosing the make, model, and serial number of each firearm owned by or under the control or custody of the revoked person. I have 48 hours of receiving the notice to comply with the notice. I am so distraught! It took them 14 months to figure out I am no longer a resident of Illinois! I suppose I should contact them to ensure they don't issue a warrant. This is not correct for simply moving out of the state. You should not have gotten the Firearm Disposition record because you are no longer a resident of IL. Is something else going on? Please email me at vrowe (at) illinoiscarry.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted September 24, 2016 at 08:13 PM Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 at 08:13 PM No, the reason for the FOID revocation is listed in the letter as: - 430 ILCS 65/8 (q) - A person who is not a resident of the State of Illinois. I'll scan the letter and email them to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POAT54 Posted September 24, 2016 at 08:22 PM Share Posted September 24, 2016 at 08:22 PM Sent the ISP a letter, you dropped off the ccw and foid at the local sheriff's. Sheriff, once he stopped laughing said he would hold them for ISP to show up in his round file. The sheriff then said Illinos should go quack itself...... p.s. better hurry in they empty the trash every Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous too Posted September 25, 2016 at 08:55 PM Share Posted September 25, 2016 at 08:55 PM IL can't enforce their laws outside of it's border. You're no longer a resident, your FOID and CCL mean nothing. Personally I'd tell them to get their heads out of their ***** and hang up, but a stern letter from my lawyer will make them go change their under britches too. They want to issue a warrant that doesn't apply. It boggles the mind how bad the ISP is. I'm on record as to being opposed to them having anything to do with CCL's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted September 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM Share Posted September 25, 2016 at 10:22 PM I would assume the FOID revocation letter is a standard template, which is why it still includes the firearm disposition requirement, which obviously does not apply to one who no longer lives in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted September 26, 2016 at 01:22 AM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 01:22 AM If a warrant is issued, it can jump up to bite you at the most inopportune time in the future. And as to suing the State of Illinois for damages after that doesn't matter because they are broke and you would end up at the end of a long long line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted September 26, 2016 at 01:25 AM Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 01:25 AM Considering I still work in Chicago, a warrant would not be in my best interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted September 26, 2016 at 02:33 AM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 02:33 AM I am so distraught! It took them 14 months to figure out I am no longer a resident of Illinois!$ How long did it take you to realize that you weren't a resident of Illinois is the real question? $ It does seem a little harsh for them to want you in Essence to register your guns when you give up up your FOID and CCL to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted September 26, 2016 at 03:21 AM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 03:21 AM IL can't enforce their laws outside of it's border. You're no longer a resident, your FOID and CCL mean nothing. Personally I'd tell them to get their heads out of their ***** and hang up, but a stern letter from my lawyer will make them go change their under britches too. They want to issue a warrant that doesn't apply. It boggles the mind how bad the ISP is. I'm on record as to being opposed to them having anything to do with CCL's. I would work with Molly as she suggested in #4. Insulting phone calls or ignoring it will accomplish nothing. If a warrant is issued, even in error, the OP could be subject to a big hassle if stopped for a traffic incident in any state and the LEO runs him through the NCIC database. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaxongreg Posted September 26, 2016 at 03:24 AM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 03:24 AM We all want to see the letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous too Posted September 26, 2016 at 02:28 PM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 02:28 PM I would work with Molly as she suggested in #4. Insulting phone calls or ignoring it will accomplish nothing. If a warrant is issued, even in error, the OP could be subject to a big hassle if stopped for a traffic incident in any state and the LEO runs him through the NCIC database. A decent lawyer would have it all squashed in a hurry and if arrested on a bad warrant, a sizeable payday too. I'm fortunate to have at least one ready to do whatever is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted September 26, 2016 at 05:34 PM Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 05:34 PM The letters I received.http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/awanderlust/ISP-Revoke_Ltrs_09-22-2016Red_Page_1_zpsvyue7dpc.jpg http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/awanderlust/ISP-Revoke_Ltrs_09-22-2016Red_Page_3_zpslid6e8lk.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted September 26, 2016 at 06:49 PM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 06:49 PM If ISP made this sort of mistake once they've probably made it in other cases. It would be interesting to know how common it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe308 Posted September 26, 2016 at 07:19 PM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 07:19 PM What is wrong with the ISP? Looks like they are using a form letter inappropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted September 26, 2016 at 09:43 PM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 09:43 PM Atleast they are sending letters now.... In all seriousness, the copy I got (after I requested it) mentioned none of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcc Posted September 26, 2016 at 11:09 PM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 11:09 PM Did they send certified mail? If not, they have no proof you were notified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted September 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM Did they send certified mail? If not, they have no proof you were notified.No, regular mail - to my former address and the post office forwarded them to my current addy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous too Posted September 26, 2016 at 11:34 PM Share Posted September 26, 2016 at 11:34 PM My question to the ISP. Are ya stupid? Their answer. Stupid is and stupid does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted September 27, 2016 at 03:27 AM Share Posted September 27, 2016 at 03:27 AM My reply would read: "As I am no longer a resident of Illinois AND I can legally own firearms where I live now, you will NOT be supplied with ANY information about the firearms I MAY own.Enclosed is my FOID and CCL that you have revoked. This concludes any business we have. Have a nice day.Sincerely,(signature) Do NOT send it registered/certified and do NOT put your current return address anywhere on the letter or envelope. You are "out of state" and where you are is none of their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilby Posted September 28, 2016 at 11:00 PM Share Posted September 28, 2016 at 11:00 PM Might be worth a phone call to the number in the letter. Without giving your name of course. Just to see if they really understand that you've just left the state, and do they REALLY expect you to now register your firearms?? I'd love to hear that person try and explain how that's what you MUST do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen-in-Normal Posted September 28, 2016 at 11:38 PM Share Posted September 28, 2016 at 11:38 PM Did they send certified mail? If not, they have no proof you were notified.No, regular mail - to my former address and the post office forwarded them to my current addy. I was just going to ask what doofus sent a letter to surrender your FOID and CCL to an INDIANA address. Glad I read all the comments. Seriously though, you've got to be kidding me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted September 29, 2016 at 05:01 PM Share Posted September 29, 2016 at 05:01 PM IMO you do need to call them immediately to get it sorted out. If they are so messed up in their process, who knows if they would issue a warrant (with all the pain that contains, even if it was in error.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted September 29, 2016 at 05:19 PM Share Posted September 29, 2016 at 05:19 PM My reply would read: "As I am no longer a resident of Illinois AND I can legally own firearms where I live now, you will NOT be supplied with ANY information about the firearms I MAY own.Enclosed is my FOID and CCL that you have revoked. This concludes any business we have. Have a nice day.Sincerely,(signature) Do NOT send it registered/certified and do NOT put your current return address anywhere on the letter or envelope. You are "out of state" and where you are is none of their business. And mail it in Chicago. Don't mail it near your residence, they can still read postmarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted September 29, 2016 at 06:51 PM Share Posted September 29, 2016 at 06:51 PM And mail it in Chicago. Don't mail it near your residence, they can still read postmarks. How is mailing from Chicago or keeping his actual address a secret going to support his claim that he is no longer a resident of Illinois? A letter from his actual residence in Indiana gives evidence that he is not subject to surrendering his firearms to Illinois. Cooperating by submitting pertinent in formation is not going to hurt his cause. Foot dragging and obfuscation are more likely to bring about the issuance of a warrant. That will show up on the NCIC database. A simple traffic stop can become an even bigger hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted September 29, 2016 at 08:15 PM Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 at 08:15 PM I contacted the ISP, using the phone number on the letter. I spoke with an unknown service person and he said to mail bac the FOID and CCL, stating in the letter I cancelling my FOID and CCL. I asked about sending it certified and he said there is no reason. So, we'l'll see what happens - if I get a response letter from them. Also, he agreed, the firearms disposition part should be ignored. The letter went out today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted September 29, 2016 at 08:26 PM Share Posted September 29, 2016 at 08:26 PM Wonder what would have happened if you told them you shredded them as soon as you left this god forsaken state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted September 29, 2016 at 08:28 PM Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 at 08:28 PM Good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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