mauserme Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:01 PM Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:01 PM Ms. Willis continues by making poor analogies to waiting for a car, or a custom suit. None of these are guaranteed as rights that cannot be infringed in the Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:01 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:01 PM How about waiting 9 months for an abortion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:02 PM Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:02 PM Representative Bryant brings up the Grand American competition at the Sparta Shooting Complex. She says the sponsor agreed to carve Sparta out, but the bill does not include that carve out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:05 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:05 PM Let em guess, the sponsor will run a trailer bill............ pass a bad bill then "fix" it with a trailer bill....seems to be all the rage right now. How about make the bill correct the first time?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:05 PM Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:05 PM SB337 is out of Assignments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:06 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:06 PM Now I remember why I don't monitor these discussions in Springfield like I once did. My blood pressure has gone up 50 points just reading the last 20 posts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vstar Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:07 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:07 PM Mr. Andersson was going door to door during the campaign and at that time he assured me that he was a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment. I believe that he had a positive rating with the NRA. Now that he has chosen not to run for re-election, he has shown his true beliefs about people’s right to self protection. I’m glad I voted for his competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:07 PM Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:07 PM Rep Keith Wheeler points out that, despite the sponsor's claim, this bill does not represent the language in the Governor's AV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:08 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:08 PM So with the amendment Skillicon added, does that make the 72hr wait for all guns not apply to CCL holder’s? Or that CCL holder’s have no waiting period at all (cash and carry)? The way I read it, CCL holders would have no waiting period at all. I predict the amendment dies, therefore, even though 90% of FOID holders do not have a CCL, and the waiting period would still apply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Porkchop Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:08 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:08 PM Just called Durkins home office and let them have it. Told his secretary of the Tribune article and that we know he horse traded the 2a for budget considerations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:09 PM Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:09 PM Rep McCombie states that arguing the bills closes a loophole is irrelevant because there is no loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:11 PM Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:11 PM SB3256 passed back to the Senate on a vote of 72/44/0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:24 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:24 PM SB3256 passed back to the Senate on a vote of 72/44/0 So, not veto proof with these numbers, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:30 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:30 PM 71 votes is veto-proof in the House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:31 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:31 PM thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:33 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:33 PM SB3256 passed back to the Senate on a vote of 72/44/0 So, not veto proof with these numbers, correct? 71 i believe is the 3/5 number. This states numbers are going to drop even further over the next year. Whole state will be detroit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:35 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:35 PM 71 votes is veto-proof in the House.yup, I gotta look further than wherever I got this BAD information... Both houses must vote to override a total veto by a 2/3 majority. If a total veto is not overridden, the bill dies. If an item veto is not overridden by a 2/3 majority, the bill becomes law with the change in funding proposed by the governor. If both houses override an amendatory veto, the bill becomes law in the form originally passed by both houses. © The house to which a bill is returned shall immediately enter the Governor's objections upon its journal. If within 15 calendar days after such entry that house by a record vote of three-fifths of the members elected passes the bill, it shall be delivered immediately to the second house. If within 15 calendar days after such delivery the second house by a record vote of three-fifths of the members elected passes the bill, it shall become law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:37 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:37 PM @cls74 I agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:38 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:38 PM Thank you Mark the sign guy, I'm sorry i still don't the particulars by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:38 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:38 PM 71 votes is veto-proof in the House.WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2/3 of the 118 district House is SEVENTY NINE Both houses must vote to override a total veto by a 2/3 majority. If a total veto is not overridden, the bill dies. If an item veto is not overridden by a 2/3 majority, the bill becomes law with the change in funding proposed by the governor. If both houses override an amendatory veto, the bill becomes law in the form originally passed by both houses. IL is 3/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:40 PM Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:40 PM A supermajority in the Illinois House = 71. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stm Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:40 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:40 PM 71 votes is veto-proof in the House.WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2/3 of the 118 district House is SEVENTY NINE Both houses must vote to override a total veto by a 2/3 majority. If a total veto is not overridden, the bill dies. If an item veto is not overridden by a 2/3 majority, the bill becomes law with the change in funding proposed by the governor. If both houses override an amendatory veto, the bill becomes law in the form originally passed by both houses.The Illinois Constitution says three-fifths majority to override a veto: © The house to which a bill is returned shall immediately enter the Governor's objections upon its journal. If within 15 calendar days after such entry that house by a record vote of three-fifths of the members elected passes the bill, it shall be delivered immediately to the second house. If within 15 calendar days after such delivery the second house by a record vote of three-fifths of the members elected passes the bill, it shall become law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauser98 Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:47 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:47 PM If anyone knows what deal he cut, time to spread it everywhere SPRINGFIELD - A growing number of Illinois Republican appear to be softening on Second Amendment rights just as tougher stands are needed in state legislatures nationwide. Tuesday, a vote in the Illinois House attempting once again to require gun dealers in Illinois to not only be licensed by the federal ATF, but also state agencies, passed with the help of seven Republican House members. As for those turncoat Republicans in the Illinois House, they include: Steven E. Andressen (65) Michael McAuliffe (20) Peter Breen (48) Jim Durkin (82) David Olsen (81) Patricia Bellock (47) Christine Winger (45)Hey, it's the not-so-Magnificent Seven. Without their support the bill would have failed rather spectacularly. We can't forget to thank our "progun" downstate Democrats too. My "fine" Senator Dave Koehler, who has always professed to be on our side of the gun rights issue, has been stabbing us in the back this whole session. He has even been so good, as to sponsor almost all of the gun control bills. They are all useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:53 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:53 PM All we can hope for is less turncoats in the Senate I guess. They're going to pass everything but the death penalty portion of the governors veto via separate bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:54 PM Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:54 PM HB5913 FOID Transferee has been filed as a trielr bill to SB337 which passed earlier today: Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act if and only if Senate Bill 337 of the 100th General Assembly becomes law. Deletes provision that a transferee shall not be criminally liable under the Act provided that he or she provides the Department of State Police with the transfer records in accordance with procedures established by the Department and deletes provision that the Department shall establish, by rule, a standard form on its website. Effective upon becoming law or on the date Senate Bill 337 of the 100th General Assembly takes effect, whichever is later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:55 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:55 PM Corrupt and in the pocket of the Bloomberg lobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twostarrz Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:59 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 07:59 PM All we can hope for is less turncoats in the Senate I guess. They're going to pass everything but the death penalty portion of the governors veto via separate bills.Unintended consequences of giving the left the finger on their bad bill. Be careful what you ask for because you may very well get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted May 30, 2018 at 08:03 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 08:03 PM HB5913 FOID Transferee has been filed as a trielr bill to SB337 which passed earlier today:Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act if and only if Senate Bill 337 of the 100th General Assembly becomes law. Deletes provision that a transferee shall not be criminally liable under the Act provided that he or she provides the Department of State Police with the transfer records in accordance with procedures established by the Department and deletes provision that the Department shall establish, by rule, a standard form on its website. Effective upon becoming law or on the date Senate Bill 337 of the 100th General Assembly takes effect, whichever is later.Registration, correct (deletes that part)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 30, 2018 at 08:04 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 08:04 PM HB5913 FOID Transferee has been filed as a trielr bill to SB337 which passed earlier today:Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act if and only if Senate Bill 337 of the 100th General Assembly becomes law. Deletes provision that a transferee shall not be criminally liable under the Act provided that he or she provides the Department of State Police with the transfer records in accordance with procedures established by the Department and deletes provision that the Department shall establish, by rule, a standard form on its website. Effective upon becoming law or on the date Senate Bill 337 of the 100th General Assembly takes effect, whichever is later.Registration, correct (deletes that part)?Sure sounds like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear226 Posted May 30, 2018 at 08:05 PM Share Posted May 30, 2018 at 08:05 PM HB5913 FOID Transferee has been filed as a trielr bill to SB337 which passed earlier today: Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act if and only if Senate Bill 337 of the 100th General Assembly becomes law. Deletes provision that a transferee shall not be criminally liable under the Act provided that he or she provides the Department of State Police with the transfer records in accordance with procedures established by the Department and deletes provision that the Department shall establish, by rule, a standard form on its website. Effective upon becoming law or on the date Senate Bill 337 of the 100th General Assembly takes effect, whichever is later.So does this mean the transferee can now be liable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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