rjstubbl Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:15 PM Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:15 PM I am selling a couple AR15s...I had someone with a Chicago address contact me to purchase both of them. Am I legally allowed to sell them to someone with a Chicago address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdm45aaron Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:19 PM Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:19 PM Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the address doesn't matter. It's up to them to keep it out of the city limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedriver Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:22 PM Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:22 PM AR-15's not legal in Chicago, I was locked up just for having possession with a valid FOID when I dropped 2 friends off at there homes. My suggestion is have the buyer meet you at an ffl to fill out a 4473 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareclipse2 Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:24 PM Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:24 PM AR-15's not legal in Chicago, I was locked up just for having possession with a valid FOID when I dropped 2 friends off at there homes. You were locked up for simply possessing a rifle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic6010 Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:41 PM Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:41 PM Yes you can legally sell an AR-15 or any other "Chicago prohibited" firearm to someone who lives in Chicago. There's no law against that. You just obliviously have to conduct the sale outside of Chicago or any other prohibited areas of Cook County. We free people in the rest of the state are not bound by the laws of Chicago or Cook County. That's the buyers problem to deal with. Not ours.Lots of people that live in Chicago will store those firearms at other addresses outside the city to stay legal. Seeing as how no ranges exist in Chicago to use them there anyways. Me personally I'm a very cautious type, so I don't deal with anyone that lives in the city. I could foresee a scenario that should they misuse the firearm or sell it off to a gang member that might open you up to a lawsuit. Mind you I don't think a case of that happening exists or probably ever will because its a huge stretch, but that's me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic6010 Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:45 PM Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 07:45 PM Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the address doesn't matter. It's up to them to keep it out of the city limits. This is correct. There is no ban or legislation that prohibits you from selling someone a gun simply because they reside in Chicago. The prohibition is on the person physically possessing it within the city limits or that item / firearm being shipped into the city limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted March 10, 2017 at 08:20 PM Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 08:20 PM Me personally I'm a very cautious type, so I don't deal with anyone that lives in the city. I could foresee a scenario that should they misuse the firearm or sell it off to a gang member that might open you up to a lawsuit. Mind you I don't think a case of that happening exists or probably ever will because its a huge stretch, but that's me.As long as you run their foid and it's valid and you keep the proper documentation of the sale I don't see how anyone could come after you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybird78 Posted March 10, 2017 at 10:07 PM Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 10:07 PM Run their FOID through IL police database for an authorization number. Make a bill of sale.(copy for each) Conduct transaction outside Cook county in a public place. (I would be a nice guy and mention the buyers understanding of Cook's AWB for a clear conscience) The End Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjstubbl Posted March 10, 2017 at 10:47 PM Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 10:47 PM OK thanks for all the responses guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazborgufen Posted March 10, 2017 at 11:06 PM Share Posted March 10, 2017 at 11:06 PM AR-15's not legal in Chicago, I was locked up just for having possession with a valid FOID when I dropped 2 friends off at there homes. My suggestion is have the buyer meet you at an ffl to fill out a 4473 How was this resolved? Did the police confiscate your rifle? Did you get convicted? What was the penalty? How was FOPA not a factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted March 11, 2017 at 04:36 AM Share Posted March 11, 2017 at 04:36 AM I am selling a couple AR15s...I had someone with a Chicago address contact me to purchase both of them. Am I legally allowed to sell them to someone with a Chicago address?IANAL but I would walk away from the sale myself. I don't put it past Sherrif Dart and his minions to set up a sting to "prove" some sort of gunshow loophole exists. Do what you think is right but know that there are people out there who couldn't care less about locking you up to score political points. JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo69 Posted March 11, 2017 at 12:51 PM Share Posted March 11, 2017 at 12:51 PM AR-15's not legal in Chicago, I was locked up just for having possession with a valid FOID when I dropped 2 friends off at there homes. My suggestion is have the buyer meet you at an ffl to fill out a 4473I remember reading this in the paper. What a bunch of idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangrel Posted March 11, 2017 at 04:34 PM Share Posted March 11, 2017 at 04:34 PM AR-15's not legal in Chicago, I was locked up just for having possession with a valid FOID when I dropped 2 friends off at there homes. My suggestion is have the buyer meet you at an ffl to fill out a 4473Before or after the FCCA was passed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedriver Posted March 11, 2017 at 10:02 PM Share Posted March 11, 2017 at 10:02 PM AR-15's not legal in Chicago, I was locked up just for having possession with a valid FOID when I dropped 2 friends off at there homes. My suggestion is have the buyer meet you at an ffl to fill out a 4473 How was this resolved? Did the police confiscate your rifle? Did you get convicted? What was the penalty? How was FOPA not a factor? The officers didn't show up for court, The police did seize all my firearms that were present, case was dismissed the judge in my case was on my side, FOPA pertains to interstate commerce which in my case I was intrastate ( within Illinois boundaries) The lawyer in my case asked the judge to see if I could get my property back with the exception of my range bag which had the police logo on it I did get my firearms back per court order when the judge signed off on it and I Will do my best to never repeat that again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedriver Posted March 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM Share Posted March 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM AR-15's not legal in Chicago, I was locked up just for having possession with a valid FOID when I dropped 2 friends off at there homes. My suggestion is have the buyer meet you at an ffl to fill out a 4473 Before or after the FCCA was passed?Before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedriver Posted March 11, 2017 at 10:04 PM Share Posted March 11, 2017 at 10:04 PM AR-15's not legal in Chicago, I was locked up just for having possession with a valid FOID when I dropped 2 friends off at there homes. My suggestion is have the buyer meet you at an ffl to fill out a 4473I remember reading this in the paper. What a bunch of idiots.Can you send me the link if you can find it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted March 12, 2017 at 05:54 AM Share Posted March 12, 2017 at 05:54 AM AR-15's not legal in Chicago, I was locked up just for having possession with a valid FOID when I dropped 2 friends off at there homes. My suggestion is have the buyer meet you at an ffl to fill out a 4473Before or after the FCCA was passed?Before Stuff was scary before. They had a registry iirc; and being a non resident didn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted March 14, 2017 at 08:27 PM Share Posted March 14, 2017 at 08:27 PM Me personally I'm a very cautious type, so I don't deal with anyone that lives in the city. I could foresee a scenario that should they misuse the firearm or sell it off to a gang member that might open you up to a lawsuit. Mind you I don't think a case of that happening exists or probably ever will because its a huge stretch, but that's me.As long as you run their foid and it's valid and you keep the proper documentation of the sale I don't see how anyone could come after you. This. Verifying the buyer has a valid FOID via the Person to Person Firearm Transfer website removes you from any liability should the buyer later use that firearm in a crime. 720 ILCS 5/24-3. Unlawful sale or delivery of firearms, section (A)(k)(2): All sellers or transferors who have complied with the requirements of subparagraph (1) of this paragraph (k) shall not be liable for damages in any civil action arising from the use or misuse by the transferee of the firearm transferred, except for willful or wanton misconduct on the part of the seller or transferor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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