kevinmcc Posted September 23, 2018 at 02:21 AM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 02:21 AM Very very thin evidence it seems, at least what is publicly known. If that is all they have, then I can not see a grand jury indicting him. Seems for like a smear campaign with charges later to be dropped due to lack of evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted September 23, 2018 at 04:49 AM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 04:49 AM Very very thin evidence it seems, at least what is publicly known. If that is all they have, then I can not see a grand jury indicting him. Seems for like a smear campaign with charges later to be dropped due to lack of evidence. Probably enough to get a Grand Jury indictment and likely a conviction as long as she remains a friendly witness/victim. Although, even though Texas does not have a "good-faith mistake" clause in their statutory rape code, in many cases like this where a good-faith mistake can be demonstrated a lawyer can negotiate a plea to a non-sex offender charge and/or a lesser misdemeanor. It would not surprise me to see him serve some time for this, but unless this was a regular thing I doubt he will serve much if any time, but he could get a lifetime registered sexual offender out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradS Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:55 AM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:55 AM Nothing to do with regulating sex and everything to do with 3D and liberal elements are after Cody and trying to make an example of him. Look at Strzok/Page.More like killing 2 free speech birds with one stone in a very high profile case. The anti SESTA/FOSTA uproar is as much of a liberal cause as the 3d printed guns are a libertarian cause. I'm going to speculate evidence is going to be rock solid that he's guilty due to the hatchet job the DOJ wants to run on both distributed gun designs and adult services websites. Woodhull v US is similar to Cody's challenge but involves websites like sugardaddymeet. https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2018/07/constitutional-challenge-against-fosta-filed-woodhull-v-us-guest-blog-post.htmMy guess is the investigation went something like this:XKeyscore was used to backend into his webmail, social media, MMS cell phone messages, and photo clouds. They've probably been watching him for a long time looking for something bigger then a slap on the wrist. Cody's travel and the DOJ injunction that said his files violated arms export laws would've made him a "national security" issue. Or, the FBI may have access to XKeyscore. This was a Snowden revealed tool that makes digital surveillance easy for low level analysts. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscoreYou'll never know because the Feds like to keep their high tech tools hidden so they don't reveal what they have or risk getting evidence tossed via questionable 5th ammendment violations. So they advise investigators to use parralel construction. Leaked memo w/ Stingray deviceshttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/02/fbi-really-doesnt-want-anyone-to-know-about-stingray-use-by-local-cops/ , but maybe somebody on the hotel staff called the copsyou're probably spot on here.It will be interesting to see if there's a witness who alerted authorities or if an anonymous "hotel witness" calls in an anonymous tip about a young girl and an older guy who only used the room for an hour. Surveillance footage cycles out after so many days so there was an expiration date. That required this investigation to start at the hotel and start shortly after the event occurred. https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/hospitalityindustry * Individuals appear to be with a significantly older boyfriend or in the company of older males.*Room is rented hourly, less than a day, or for long-term stay that does not appear normal.Anonymous tips may be reported on this form and may also be reported to ICE via the toll-free HSI Tip Line, (866) 347-2423http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/19/cody-wilson-man-behind-controversial-3-d-printed-gun-accused-sex-assault.html My detectives have interviewed ... this victim," Officer said. "In their opinion, if someone mistakes her age it would be because they think she's younger, not older ..." That statement wouldn't of appeared or been printed if it wasn't part of evidence from a witness. It was also stated the girls friend tipped off Cody that he was being investigated, which may indicate she wasn't a willing participant in turning him in.If using parralel construction law enforcement is going to have to go through the motions of getting all the online evidence they know already exists. If I'm right you're going to see this get worse in a few weeks possibly even revealing Cody knew she was underage. I'm not buying the tinfoil that it was a setup, too much is at stake for the DOJ to screw this up. Plus assuming the DOJ would use an underage girl that probably had sex with him as bait is a little too out there for me to believe.Again, speculation, and innocent until proven guilty. But let this serve as a warning, if you've given the government a reason to watch you they will be watching you, warrant or not. Overall really stupid on Cody's part. Wait?...WHAT?! You don't think this is a set up? These are the same DOJ and ATF type people who hatched this fantastic idea to give guns to Mexican drug cartels for Operation Fast and Furious all so they can infringe on law abiding US citizens rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted September 23, 2018 at 01:31 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 01:31 PM What concerns me is the move to weaponize male/ female relationships for political purposes. If you dig deep enough in any of our backgrounds you could find something to mess up our images. What’s happening in Washington now has nothing to do with due process. Distory the person at all cost to render then impotent going forward.The left will use this to weaken his platform on gun rights. This is the type of charge that can not be taken back, he is innocent until proven guilty but in the public’s perceptions he’s tainted. He’s lost his ability to work for our cause at the level before this incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted September 23, 2018 at 05:57 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 05:57 PM Creepiness aside, an oft used gun guy saying comes to mind- Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Public figures, CEOs, movie stars, politicians, etc need to live basically spotless lives because of the brand risk to their companies and careers. The 4 reasons my youthful indiscretions are not haunting me are simple- It was the late ‘70s and early ‘80s. No internet One itty bitty fireworks misdemeanor conviction I’m not a CEO, politician, rock/movie star. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted September 23, 2018 at 07:13 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 07:13 PM Wait?...WHAT?!You don't think this is a set up?These are the same DOJ and ATF type people who hatched this fantastic idea to give guns to Mexican drug cartels for Operation Fast and Furious all so they can infringe on law abiding US citizens rights.For it to be a setup you would have to assume one of two things. The FBI hired an underage informant turned bait that spent 50 minutes with Cody Wilson where nothing sexual happened (IE like in to catch a predator where the FBI or police arrest right when the perp shows intention). If Cody Wilson was playing Captain Save-a-ho and, for instance read from the bible, him and his lawyer would be issuing that statement. That's not happening. The fact that he and his lawyer have been quiet would make you assume they are going for a different defense angle, probably along the lines of ignorance of age or some type of plea bargain to lesser charges depending on evidence discovery. Heck, after discovery the sex act might even get tossed for lack of evidence or lack of cooperation from the witness. But there's still child porn/lude act to a minor charges that would stick and go to court based on the exchange of phone pictures. The second scenario that's even less plausable is that the FBI willingly prostituted out a child (a bigger crime) to catch a John (smaller crime). Especially with the risk this stuff has a tendency to leak. Do the risk VS reward equation on this, it doesn't add up. The FBI has let guns walk, distributed already made child porn, entrapped mentally disabled people, stolen cash, drugs, and property, has employed murderers, hitman, psychopaths, terrorists and crime lords as informants. All these are cases of incompetence and subsequent coverups or rewards assumed to be greater then the risk. Sure, there have been cases where law enforcement agencies were involved in illegal evidence gathering techniques and let crimes go commited. The FBI is more concerned with solving a case and covering their own butts then swooping in and blowing the entire case for a crime that was going to happen anyways. If there was a way they could've legally gotten a warrant I'm sure they would've. But if you'd like to run the logic I'm always up for some creative conspiracy theories (plausible or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted September 23, 2018 at 07:37 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 07:37 PM Creepiness aside, an oft used gun guy saying comes to mind- Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Public figures, CEOs, movie stars, politicians, etc need to live basically spotless lives because of the brand risk to their companies and careers. The 4 reasons my youthful indiscretions are not haunting me are simple- It was the late ‘70s and early ‘80s. No internet One itty bitty fireworks misdemeanor conviction I’m not a CEO, politician, rock/movie star. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThere's internet now and millions of people use it to meet, that's not playing stupid games and nothing creepy about it. There's more than one million members on that site doing the same thing, should they be arrested too? Lilguy said it very well, people's sexual lives should be private and should not be used as a weapon against them. He is a private citizen and a young guy and has needs and his relationships are his business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted September 23, 2018 at 07:51 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 07:51 PM Wait?...WHAT?!You don't think this is a set up?These are the same DOJ and ATF type people who hatched this fantastic idea to give guns to Mexican drug cartels for Operation Fast and Furious all so they can infringe on law abiding US citizens rights.For it to be a setup you would have to assume one of two things. The FBI hired an underage informant turned bait that spent 50 minutes with Cody Wilson where nothing sexual happened (IE like in to catch a predator where the FBI or police arrest right when the perp shows intention). If Cody Wilson was playing Captain Save-a-ho and, for instance read from the bible, him and his lawyer would be issuing that statement. That's not happening. The fact that he and his lawyer have been quiet would make you assume they are going for a different defense angle, probably along the lines of ignorance of age or some type of plea bargain to lesser charges depending on evidence discovery. Heck, after discovery the sex act might even get tossed for lack of evidence or lack of cooperation from the witness. But there's still child porn/lude act to a minor charges that would stick and go to court based on the exchange of phone pictures. The second scenario that's even less plausable is that the FBI willingly prostituted out a child (a bigger crime) to catch a John (smaller crime). Especially with the risk this stuff has a tendency to leak. Do the risk VS reward equation on this, it doesn't add up. The FBI has let guns walk, distributed already made child porn, entrapped mentally disabled people, stolen cash, drugs, and property, has employed murderers, hitman, psychopaths, terrorists and crime lords as informants. All these are cases of incompetence and subsequent coverups or rewards assumed to be greater then the risk. Sure, there have been cases where law enforcement agencies were involved in illegal evidence gathering techniques and let crimes go commited. The FBI is more concerned with solving a case and covering their own butts then swooping in and blowing the entire case for a crime that was going to happen anyways. If there was a way they could've legally gotten a warrant I'm sure they would've. But if you'd like to run the logic I'm always up for some creative conspiracy theories (plausible or not).Well said Brad, I knew someone was gonna call it a conspiracy theory. It's a proven false flag operation and reality and happens all the time. Here's a more plausible explanation. Cody was looking for a relationship at a site where women go looking for relationships with wealthy individuals who give them financial help and that's what Cody did and gave her $500. He was being monitored by law enforcement who couldn't find that he broke any other laws and came across a target of opportunity and talked to the girl to press charges against him or else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted September 23, 2018 at 08:48 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 08:48 PM Conspiracy doesn't always equal false, but for it to be believable it would need to follow some kind of logic. Kind of a lazy theory that everything was fabricated. Why wouldn't they have gone all out and used a younger victim if the charges are totally fabricated? The FBI has used similar dubious tactics https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2016/09/05/fbi-tactic-child-porn-sting-under-attack/89891134/ but the key is the participant was willing to go along and commit the crime. Not that the crime was totally fabricated. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/amp/3D-printed-gun-advocate-Cody-Wilson-jailed-in-13251168.phpWhat about the pictures on the victims phone along with the digital forensics that she sent pics to him as well? The so-called "crypto-anarchist" and owner of Defense Distributed was wanted for sexual assault of a child after he allegedly exchanged naked pictures with a 16-year-old he met on SugarDaddyMeet.com, then took her to an Austin hotel and paid her $500 for sex. https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1403448002 The Taiwan newspaper The Liberty Times reported that police pinpointed Wilson's exact whereabouts in Taiwan by proposing a business deal with his company on his website and then monitoring when and where he signed the contract online. So this does prove he was being electronically surveiled so more evidence will be coming out. Up for question is when they started monitoring him. The website is part of many websites owned by a Chinese national https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successful_Match Austin police Cmdr. Troy Officer said Wednesday that Wilson left the United States after a friend of the 16-year-old girl had told him that police were investigating the accusation that he had sex with her.And this stated he knew he was being investigated before leaving the country (whether the trip was planned or not). If there was no crime why isn't he denying it? He had plenty of time and access to the internet to do so. All of what we know point to the alleged events actually happening. The picture exchange is solid evidence. The sex part depends on the victim cooperating, but if she says it occurred based on the surveillance tapes it will be hard to dispute. Not to mention there will probably be evidence in the messaging between them alleging it happened before and after. What will be on trial is evidence whether he knew her age or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:07 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:07 PM Conspiracy doesn't always equal false, but for it to be believable it would need to follow some kind of logic. Kind of a lazy theory that everything was fabricated. Why wouldn't they have gone all out and used a younger victim if the charges are totally fabricated? The FBI has used similar dubious tactics https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2016/09/05/fbi-tactic-child-porn-sting-under-attack/89891134/ but the key is the participant was willing to go along and commit the crime. Not that the crime was totally fabricated. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/amp/3D-printed-gun-advocate-Cody-Wilson-jailed-in-13251168.phpWhat about the pictures on the victims phone along with the digital forensics that she sent pics to him as well? The so-called "crypto-anarchist" and owner of Defense Distributed was wanted for sexual assault of a child after he allegedly exchanged naked pictures with a 16-year-old he met on SugarDaddyMeet.com, then took her to an Austin hotel and paid her $500 for sex. https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1403448002 The Taiwan newspaper The Liberty Times reported that police pinpointed Wilson's exact whereabouts in Taiwan by proposing a business deal with his company on his website and then monitoring when and where he signed the contract online. So this does prove he was being electronically surveiled so more evidence will be coming out. Up for question is when they started monitoring him. The website is part of many websites owned by a Chinese national https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successful_Match Austin police Cmdr. Troy Officer said Wednesday that Wilson left the United States after a friend of the 16-year-old girl had told him that police were investigating the accusation that he had sex with her.And this stated he knew he was being investigated before leaving the country (whether the trip was planned or not). If there was no crime why isn't he denying it? He had plenty of time and access to the internet to do so.All of what we know point to the alleged events actually happening. The picture exchange is solid evidence. The sex part depends on the victim cooperating, but if she says it occurred based on the surveillance tapes it will be hard to dispute. Not to mention there will probably be evidence in the messaging between them alleging it happened before and after. What will be on trial is evidence whether he knew her age or not. They can't legally use a younger victim but they can tell her to report it to a counselor. He didn't commit a crime and is legal to send pictures. She lied about her age. From what I read the trip was planned and he found out about the investigation while in Taiwan. He is using his 5th ammendment right, some people don't like to talk about their case and doesn't mean he is guilty. The video footage and pictures are not evidence against him because they show they willingly met and exchanged pictures and she claimed to be 18 on the website and not illegal to meet at hotel and send pictures to a person over 18. If they use the pictures and video against him and got no proof that he knew she was 18 which I doubt because they would have said so, and find him guilty, that's proof that he is innocent and didn't get a fair trial and was railroaded because of 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:20 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:20 PM You're implying that no law was broken, I'm implying if there's evidence laws very well could've been broken. Look at the following case:http://articles.latimes.com/1989-06-16/local/me-2160_1_x-citement-video-rubin-gottesman-child-pornography If it's found that he had any prior knowledge she was underage he broke the law. That burden of proof, as seen in the US VS X-Citement Video Supreme Court case, is not hard to meet. It doesn't matter that the website was supposed to screen out minors. It will not stand up in court as it hasn't in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:22 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:22 PM If they use the pictures and video against him and got no proof that he knew she was 18 which I doubt because they would have said so, and find him guilty, that's proof that he is innocent and didn't get a fair trial and was railroaded because of 3D. Texas like most states doesn't have a "good-faith mistake" defense for statutory rape, he could have literally asked her for a State ID, her Passport and/or her Birth Certificate and if ones she provided stated she was of the age of consent even though she wasn't he is still guilty of statutory rape as the law is written. I don't agree with the law but that is the way it's written in most states. As I said though that even though a "good faith mistake" defense is not codified most prosecutors/judges will allow it to be invoked in a plea deal if there is evidence to back it up, as there is in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:29 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:29 PM It's gonna be hard for a jury to find him not guilty because of the nature of charges against him and they know it. Even though no evidence has been provided to prove the outrageous allegation that he is a child rapist. What has been presented clearly shows a relation between two consenting adults and that he was set up because of 3D. They found a way to get him. Look what they're doing to get Judge Kavanaugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:49 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 10:49 PM You're implying that no law was broken, I'm implying if there's evidence laws very well could've been broken.Look at the following case:http://articles.latimes.com/1989-06-16/local/me-2160_1_x-citement-video-rubin-gottesman-child-pornographyIf it's found that he had any prior knowledge she was underage he broke the law. That burden of proof, as seen in the US VS X-Citement Video Supreme Court case, is not hard to meet. It doesn't matter that the website was supposed to screen out minors. It will not stand up in court as it hasn't in the past.I said if there's evidence that he knew she was under 18, the law was broken and he is screwed. I don't think he is stupid to do that knowing he is under the microscope. They don't have evidence of that or they would have said so. Willingly meeting and sending pictures proves that he is innocent. No evidence has been provided that he is a child rapist. He is innocent and being persecuted because of 3D. Like I said they found a way to get him and he knows it. Look at the book: Three Felonies A Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:06 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:06 PM Old dudes shouldn’t be chasing teenage tail. At 30, he is old. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:22 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:22 PM If he hired a prostitute, anything he gets he deserves. While some folks say "it's the oldest profession" and if they're consenting it's ok and other such stupidity, it still takes a man who is willing to devalue another human life to the extent that she's worth only the brief physical pleasure she can provide. Not gonna cry for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:35 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:35 PM If he hired a prostitute, anything he gets he deserves. While some folks say "it's the oldest profession" and if they're consenting it's oand other such stupidity, it still takes a man who is willing to devalue another human life to the extent that she's worth only the brief physical pleasure she can provide. Not gonna cry for this guy.Same could be said for the female prostitute but yeah, I can see how it’s completely the man’s fault. I mean, that’s just logic. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmart Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:39 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:39 PM Old dudes shouldn’t be chasing teenage tail. At 30, he is old. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah, even if his intentions were honorable...I think the conventional wisdom was always half your age plus 10. At 30 he probably shouldn't have been looking at anyone under age 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:48 PM Share Posted September 23, 2018 at 11:48 PM If he hired a prostitute, anything he gets he deserves. While some folks say "it's the oldest profession" and if they're consenting it's oand other such stupidity, it still takes a man who is willing to devalue another human life to the extent that she's worth only the brief physical pleasure she can provide. Not gonna cry for this guy. Same could be said for the female prostitute but yeah, I can see how it’s completely the man’s fault. I mean, that’s just logic. Duh.Yes, his problems are completely his fault. We are talking about Cody Wilson, and the mess he may or may not be in. The prostitute did her part, too, but neither is to blame for the other's actions. He is accountable for his own actions. He chose to hire a prostitute. You don't mixed up in getting the wrong prostitute if you don't get any at all. How does such a principled young man find himself denying a young woman of any age the basic dignity that comes from not objectifying her for sex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted September 24, 2018 at 08:11 PM Share Posted September 24, 2018 at 08:11 PM If he hired a prostitute, anything he gets he deserves. While some folks say "it's the oldest profession" and if they're consenting it's oand other such stupidity, it still takes a man who is willing to devalue another human life to the extent that she's worth only the brief physical pleasure she can provide. Not gonna cry for this guy.Same could be said for the female prostitute but yeah, I can see how it’s completely the man’s fault. I mean, that’s just logic. Duh.Yes, his problems are completely his fault. We are talking about Cody Wilson, and the mess he may or may not be in. The prostitute did her part, too, but neither is to blame for the other's actions. He is accountable for his own actions. He chose to hire a prostitute. You don't mixed up in getting the wrong prostitute if you don't get any at all. How does such a principled young man find himself denying a young woman of any age the basic dignity that comes from not objectifying her for sex?He didn't deny her dignity because he didn't force her and she did it at her own will. She lied about her age and objectified him for his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcc Posted September 24, 2018 at 11:19 PM Share Posted September 24, 2018 at 11:19 PM Old dudes shouldn’t be chasing teenage tail. At 30, he is old. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah, even if his intentions were honorable... I think the conventional wisdom was always half your age plus 10. At 30 he probably shouldn't have been looking at anyone under age 25. Court will say if reasonable that one would assume she was 18 or older. Question is, was he told she was a minor and he went anyway. That is what will get him with some sort of something, shows he had intent to commit a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted September 24, 2018 at 11:35 PM Share Posted September 24, 2018 at 11:35 PM Old dudes shouldn’t be chasing teenage tail. At 30, he is old. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah, even if his intentions were honorable...I think the conventional wisdom was always half your age plus 10. At 30 he probably shouldn't have been looking at anyone under age 25. Court will say if reasonable that one would assume she was 18 or older. Question is, was he told she was a minor and he went anyway. That is what will get him with some sort of something, shows he had intent to commit a crime. The court doesn't have concluded anything reasonable in regards to her age, they know it and that is all that is applicable under Texas law. The statutory rape law in Texas and most states offer no defense based on perceived age or even legitimate attempts to verify age by the 'suspect'. Since she is, in fact, underage, if it is found he did do the deed with her he is, in fact, guilty of statutory rape. Also intent is not part of Texas statutory rape law, no intent has to be shown or proven under the law, the only qualifier for the law to apply is that she was a minor and the deed was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradS Posted September 25, 2018 at 12:25 AM Share Posted September 25, 2018 at 12:25 AM Wait?...WHAT?!You don't think this is a set up?These are the same DOJ and ATF type people who hatched this fantastic idea to give guns to Mexican drug cartels for Operation Fast and Furious all so they can infringe on law abiding US citizens rights.For it to be a setup you would have to assume one of two things. The FBI hired an underage informant turned bait that spent 50 minutes with Cody Wilson where nothing sexual happened (IE like in to catch a predator where the FBI or police arrest right when the perp shows intention). If Cody Wilson was playing Captain Save-a-ho and, for instance read from the bible, him and his lawyer would be issuing that statement. That's not happening. The fact that he and his lawyer have been quiet would make you assume they are going for a different defense angle, probably along the lines of ignorance of age or some type of plea bargain to lesser charges depending on evidence discovery. Heck, after discovery the sex act might even get tossed for lack of evidence or lack of cooperation from the witness. But there's still child porn/lude act to a minor charges that would stick and go to court based on the exchange of phone pictures. The second scenario that's even less plausable is that the FBI willingly prostituted out a child (a bigger crime) to catch a John (smaller crime). Especially with the risk this stuff has a tendency to leak. Do the risk VS reward equation on this, it doesn't add up. The FBI has let guns walk, distributed already made child porn, entrapped mentally disabled people, stolen cash, drugs, and property, has employed murderers, hitman, psychopaths, terrorists and crime lords as informants. All these are cases of incompetence and subsequent coverups or rewards assumed to be greater then the risk. Sure, there have been cases where law enforcement agencies were involved in illegal evidence gathering techniques and let crimes go commited. The FBI is more concerned with solving a case and covering their own butts then swooping in and blowing the entire case for a crime that was going to happen anyways. If there was a way they could've legally gotten a warrant I'm sure they would've. But if you'd like to run the logic I'm always up for some creative conspiracy theories (plausible or not).You're operating under the assumption that the female underage prostitute was basically recruited, hired, and paid by the FBI. I'm saying she is getting paid and/or otherwise taken care of by antigun/anti-freedom/anti-free speech/anti-conservative/anti-libertarian forces or parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted September 25, 2018 at 07:53 PM Share Posted September 25, 2018 at 07:53 PM Not looking good, Cody resigned and not a single denial of the charges. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/25/cody-wilson-owner-controversial-3d-gun-company-resigns-after-sexual-assault-arrest.amp.html https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/09/cody-wilson-resigns-from-defense-distributed-which-is-now-under-new-leadership/ Also on Cody's own instructions the company has issued PR statements distancing themselves from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Badger Posted September 25, 2018 at 11:55 PM Share Posted September 25, 2018 at 11:55 PM Not looking good, Cody resigned and not a single denial of the charges. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/25/cody-wilson-owner-controversial-3d-gun-company-resigns-after-sexual-assault-arrest.amp.htmlhttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/09/cody-wilson-resigns-from-defense-distributed-which-is-now-under-new-leadership/ Also on Cody's own instructions the company has issued PR statements distancing themselves from him. Play creepy games, win stupid prizes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted September 26, 2018 at 12:51 AM Share Posted September 26, 2018 at 12:51 AM Not looking good, Cody resigned and not a single denial of the charges. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/25/cody-wilson-owner-controversial-3d-gun-company-resigns-after-sexual-assault-arrest.amp.htmlhttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/09/cody-wilson-resigns-from-defense-distributed-which-is-now-under-new-leadership/Also on Cody's own instructions the company has issued PR statements distancing themselves from him.His attorney probably advised him not to talk about the case. Where did you see that on Cody's own instructions the company has issued PR statements distancing themselves from him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird76Mojo Posted September 26, 2018 at 02:01 AM Share Posted September 26, 2018 at 02:01 AM Not looking good, Cody resigned and not a single denial of the charges. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/25/cody-wilson-owner-controversial-3d-gun-company-resigns-after-sexual-assault-arrest.amp.htmlhttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/09/cody-wilson-resigns-from-defense-distributed-which-is-now-under-new-leadership/Also on Cody's own instructions the company has issued PR statements distancing themselves from him.His attorney probably advised him not to talk about the case. Where did you see that on Cody's own instructions the company has issued PR statements distancing themselves from him? I saw an article or post somewhere that was from his lead engineer, and he mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted September 26, 2018 at 02:19 AM Share Posted September 26, 2018 at 02:19 AM Cody is out on bond so is looking better. https://m.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/3D-printed-gun-advocate-Cody-Wilson-jailed-in-13251168.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted September 26, 2018 at 02:26 AM Share Posted September 26, 2018 at 02:26 AM Not looking good, Cody resigned and not a single denial of the charges. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/25/cody-wilson-owner-controversial-3d-gun-company-resigns-after-sexual-assault-arrest.amp.htmlhttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/09/cody-wilson-resigns-from-defense-distributed-which-is-now-under-new-leadership/Also on Cody's own instructions the company has issued PR statements distancing themselves from him. His attorney probably advised him not to talk about the case.Where did you see that on Cody's own instructions the company has issued PR statements distancing themselves from him? I saw an article or post somewhere that was from his lead engineer, and he mentioned it.I doubt he said that. Do you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2smartby1/2 Posted September 27, 2018 at 04:52 PM Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 at 04:52 PM We will wait to see what happens....although honestly we may not know for years (until the girl turns 18). Legality or not, my first thought is still...why is he on a website like that? I don't really care what two consenting adults do in their own time...male or female, but that particular combination strikes me as odd. I'm assuming she said she was 18. A 30 year old trying to pick up an 18 year old on a website is a bit odd. Now, if she said she was 23.....that would seem different, although it would be pretty difficult to not see the difference between a 16 year old and a 23 year old when you picked them up. By the way....he picked her up. His first thought should have been..."she is at least 18, looks young, and does not own a car.....hmmmm....." I'm looking at his twitter page. He seems like a handsome enough fellow to be able to pick up 25-26 year women in a place like Austin Texas. We can only go by the comments in the articles (she did not look 18), but my next thought is...."well...maybe he likes them looking really young"....and that is where we get into creep territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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