mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:49 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:49 PM Senator Connelly states that the concerns expressed in committee have, in his opinion, been addressed in the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:51 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:51 PM Senator Collins explains what will be her present vote. She states that locking up more people is not the answer to "gun crime". She adds that strict gun law does not help reduce crime and is particularly harmful to young people. Tough sentencing is not new, and research shows is has not worked. You stop gun violence with education, access to jobs, etc. "Gun violence is the effect, but not the root of the problem". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:53 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:53 PM Senator McConnaughay thanks Senator Raoul for his work. She will support the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:55 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:55 PM Senator Hunter asks Senator Raoul if the bill was analyzed by SPAC. He answer that there were previous analyses. She asks if any elements were removed from the bill. Mr. Raoul answers that there were, and explains them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:58 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:58 PM Senator Hunter inquires about a fiscal impact. Senator Raoul says there was a savings in prior versions. Ms. Hunter says she was told there would be a $34,000,000 increase even before removal of those provisions. She identifies the source of the information as Loyola, and adds that Illinois has the most guns bills of any state and crime continues to increase. She will vote present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem4134 Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:59 PM Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 06:59 PM Raoul is crying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:00 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:00 PM Senator Raoul offers an impassioned closing statement, speaking to racial profiling which is not the issue at all for us. Not in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:03 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:03 PM On a vote of 35/9/4 the bill is passed as amended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:21 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:21 PM SB1524 Concealed Carry Military Fee is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:22 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:22 PM Senator Weaver moves to adopt Amendment 2. Amendment 2 is adopted and the bill is moved to 3rd reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:31 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:31 PM SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing is skipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:48 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:48 PM SB1842 Crim Cd Cloth Conceal ID is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:49 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:49 PM Amendment 1 is adopted and the bill is moved to 3rd reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:56 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:56 PM The Senate moves past SB1985 Wildlife Cd Lead Ammunition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:58 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 07:58 PM SB2048 Firearm Card State's Attorneys is up, and is moved to third reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 08:04 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 08:04 PM SB1657 Gun Dealer Licensing is up again. .. and is moved to 3rd reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 08:08 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 08:08 PM SB1985 Wildlife Cd Lead Ammunition is up again. The bill is moved to third reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 08:25 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 08:25 PM The Senate is adjourned until 4/25/2017 @ 12:00 Noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk5 Posted April 6, 2017 at 08:46 PM Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 08:46 PM What a lovely day in IL, and no lube as usual.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 09:13 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 09:13 PM Looking forward to 2 weeks without the legislature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 09:57 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 09:57 PM Senate Amendment 1 has been filed on SB592 Criminal Law Tech, creating a UUW diversion program for people who have PTSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 10:19 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 10:19 PM The House stands adjourned until 4/7/2017 @ 9:00 AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTriple Posted April 6, 2017 at 10:39 PM Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 10:39 PM On a vote of 35/9/4 the bill is passed as amended.Is this the gun minimum sentencing law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 6, 2017 at 11:29 PM Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 at 11:29 PM On a vote of 35/9/4 the bill is passed as amended. Is this the gun minimum sentencing law? Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTriple Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:06 PM Share Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:06 PM On a vote of 35/9/4 the bill is passed as amended.Is this the gun minimum sentencing law?Yes it is.How'd that piece of crap pass? Seriously? As far as the House is concerned, will it die there? I can't see Rauner signing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:29 PM Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:29 PM It's closer than it's ever been. Amendment 4 came out of negotiations with the Governor and the House, where Leader Durkin is the sponsor. Some of the sentencing reductions for the most serious drug offenses have been scaled back so they might pick up some R votes with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazborgufen Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:41 PM Share Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:41 PM How'd that piece of crap pass? Seriously? As far as the House is concerned, will it die there? I can't see Rauner signing it. Didn't they want to tack the minimum sentencing onto the suppressor law last session as a compromise? Our side opposed it as I recall and the suppressor bill was never called. Interesting how now that the military carry bill is on the move so too are all of these anti-gun bills. And still no suppressors or improvements to our carry law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:55 PM Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:55 PM How'd that piece of crap pass? Seriously? As far as the House is concerned, will it die there? I can't see Rauner signing it. Didn't they want to tack the minimum sentencing onto the suppressor law last session as a compromise? Our side opposed it as I recall and the suppressor bill was never called. Interesting how now that the military carry bill is on the move so too are all of these anti-gun bills. And still no suppressors or improvements to our carry law. Are you asking if the NRA cut a deal last session - suppressors for increased mandatory minimums? I don't know the answer to that specific question. I do know the NRA has historically supported enhancing mandatory minimum sentencing for gun offenses in both the House and the Senate. And one of last session's suppressor bills, SB206, was originally Senator Raoul's bill before it was amended in the House. Is that a connection to Mr. Raoul's mandatory minimums this session? I don't see it. But neither SB206 nor SB806 included mandatory minimum language in the 99th GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:58 PM Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 at 02:58 PM By the way, if you search the forum you'll see we've disagreed with the NRA's support for increased mandatory minimums for at least half a decade. We continue to oppose that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazborgufen Posted April 7, 2017 at 03:43 PM Share Posted April 7, 2017 at 03:43 PM By the way, if you search the forum you'll see we've disagreed with the NRA's support for increased mandatory minimums for at least half a decade. We continue to oppose that now. What I was getting at was that I recall there being an effort to attach mandatory minimums to the suppressor bill. It was opposed and didn't happen. Thus, no mandatory minimums and no suppressors last session. This session we have mandatory minimums up again, but no movement on suppressors. Thus Illinois may very well pass mandatory minimums and still no suppressors. That looks like the short end of the stick. I agree that mandatory minimums are bad, but I'm also a realist. If we end up with just mandatory minimums when we could have also had suppressors, that's a really bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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