ragsbo Posted January 12, 2019 at 04:27 PM Share Posted January 12, 2019 at 04:27 PM What happens if you go pass the renewal date and apply late? We are looking at around 400 bucks for training and renewal and don't have it right now. Thinking about doing mine now and maybe the wifes a little later but I am worried if she goes by the date they will make her start all over again. What is the procedure if you don't renew by expiration date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 12, 2019 at 04:40 PM Share Posted January 12, 2019 at 04:40 PM Previous thread http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=70361&do=findComment&comment=1182237 and posted image of renewal letter by ISP indicates that if CCL expires before you submit renewal application you start over again from beginning with new application and full 16 hr training. http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=70552 ..."Also be mindful that if you submit your renewal application prior to expiration, your card will remain in an ACTIVE status while processing your application. If you allow your card to expire, and you wish to apply for a new CCL, a 16-hour training certificate will be required."... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted January 12, 2019 at 04:41 PM Share Posted January 12, 2019 at 04:41 PM If it expires, you have to take the 16 hour class again. It’s as if you never had a license. Renewal classes are about $50, plus $150 renewal. $200 total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted January 12, 2019 at 06:06 PM Share Posted January 12, 2019 at 06:06 PM I asked ISP this same question in an email sometime ago, they confirmed the above responses. Take everything over again. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted January 12, 2019 at 11:01 PM Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 at 11:01 PM Thanks, thought so. I was pretty sure I read that but could not find the thread on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted January 13, 2019 at 02:37 PM Share Posted January 13, 2019 at 02:37 PM Where is the requirement to take the course again? You should be able to submit the same certificate you used the first time. I see no expiration on the original training in section 25 or 75. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted January 13, 2019 at 02:42 PM Share Posted January 13, 2019 at 02:42 PM If the training expires, why accept an NRA basic pistol or DD214 to waive 8 hours from an applicant whoâs training may have been 60 years ago, but not accept the full course that was 5 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted January 13, 2019 at 04:30 PM Share Posted January 13, 2019 at 04:30 PM Lockman has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted January 13, 2019 at 06:13 PM Share Posted January 13, 2019 at 06:13 PM If the training expires, why accept an NRA basic pistol or DD214 to waive 8 hours from an applicant whoâs training may have been 60 years ago, but not accept the full course that was 5 years ago?Here’s why. Following your logic, it would make more sense to let you CCL expire and resubmit your old original certificate. You wouldn’t have to pay for ANY additional training or sit through a renewal class. Only fee would be the $150 for the license, which is what renewal people pay. But renewal people also have to sit through 3 hours of training/requal and pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted January 13, 2019 at 10:38 PM Share Posted January 13, 2019 at 10:38 PM If the training expires, why accept an NRA basic pistol or DD214 to waive 8 hours from an applicant whoâs training may have been 60 years ago, but not accept the full course that was 5 years ago? Hereâs why. Following your logic, it would make more sense to let you CCL expire and resubmit your old original certificate. You wouldnât have to pay for ANY additional training or sit through a renewal class. Only fee would be the $150 for the license, which is what renewal people pay. But renewal people also have to sit through 3 hours of training/requal and pay for it. The statute is the statute. If this was not the intent of the legislature then it is a loophole and can be exploited until such time the legislature changes it. The only downside is you have a minimum 90 - 120 days without a valid license. ^ this *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted January 14, 2019 at 01:10 AM Share Posted January 14, 2019 at 01:10 AM If the training expires, why accept an NRA basic pistol or DD214 to waive 8 hours from an applicant whoâs training may have been 60 years ago, but not accept the full course that was 5 years ago? Hereâs why. Following your logic, it would make more sense to let you CCL expire and resubmit your old original certificate. You wouldnât have to pay for ANY additional training or sit through a renewal class. Only fee would be the $150 for the license, which is what renewal people pay. But renewal people also have to sit through 3 hours of training/requal and pay for it.The statute is the statute. If this was not the intent of the legislature then it is a loophole and can be exploited until such time the legislature changes it. The only downside is you have a minimum 90 - 120 days without a valid license. ^ this ***You expect the ILLINOIS legislation to be clear and make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad John Posted March 8, 2019 at 05:28 AM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 05:28 AM I applied and submitted all of the required documentation for renewal of my CCL a couple months out from it's expiration date. Well, the expiration date has just passed while my renewal application was and is under review. Now that my current card has expired without a renewal "approval" I guess I am no longer legal until such time that I am approved or denied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted March 8, 2019 at 05:31 AM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 05:31 AM I applied and submitted all of the required documentation for renewal of my CCL a couple months out from it's expiration date. Well, the expiration date has just passed while my renewal application was and is under review. Now that my current card has expired without a renewal "approval" I guess I am no longer legal until such time that I am approved or denied?No, as long as you renew before the expiration date, your CCL remains valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted March 8, 2019 at 05:42 AM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 05:42 AM I applied and submitted all of the required documentation for renewal of my CCL a couple months out from it's expiration date. Well, the expiration date has just passed while my renewal application was and is under review. Now that my current card has expired without a renewal "approval" I guess I am no longer legal until such time that I am approved or denied?No, as long as you renew before the expiration date, your CCL remains valid.Correct. It’s written right in law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted March 8, 2019 at 11:33 AM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 11:33 AM I applied and submitted all of the required documentation for renewal of my CCL a couple months out from it's expiration date. Well, the expiration date has just passed while my renewal application was and is under review. Now that my current card has expired without a renewal "approval" I guess I am no longer legal until such time that I am approved or denied?You should request a refund from your instructor. They obviously didn't do a very good job teaching the law portion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDUC10 Posted March 8, 2019 at 02:31 PM Share Posted March 8, 2019 at 02:31 PM I applied and submitted all of the required documentation for renewal of my CCL a couple months out from it's expiration date. Well, the expiration date has just passed while my renewal application was and is under review. Now that my current card has expired without a renewal "approval" I guess I am no longer legal until such time that I am approved or denied? Here's the law: (430 ILCS 66/70) Sec. 70. Violations. © A license is invalid upon expiration of the license, unless the licensee has submitted an application to renew the license, and the applicant is otherwise eligible to possess a license under this Act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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