Raw Power Posted December 11, 2020 at 06:24 AM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 06:24 AM “I am not going to violate the Constitution. Executive authority that my progressive friends talk about is way beyond the bounds,” he said. But, he said, he would not seek to use executive action to mandate policy changes that he has long said are up to Congress to make. Biden cited gun control as an example, saying that if he signed an executive order banning assault weapons, a future Republican president could undo that ban and use it as a precedent to drastically expand gun rights. https://kvia.com/your-voice-your-vote/politics/2020/12/10/biden-told-civil-rights-leaders-in-private-meeting-that-progressives-hopes-for-executive-actions-are-way-beyond-the-bounds-of-his-presidential-authority/ This is potentially some really great news. We'll see how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted December 11, 2020 at 06:49 AM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 06:49 AM "But, he said, he would not seek to use executive action to mandate policy changes that he has long said are up to Congress to make." Two days later:"I said WHAT???" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted December 11, 2020 at 11:13 AM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 11:13 AM This is more about defining the method of his intended gun control rather than walking back the intention itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:04 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:04 PM "But, he said, he would not seek to use executive action to mandate policy changes that he has long said are up to Congress to make." Two days later:"I said WHAT???""That policy knocked me down while I was playing with it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:11 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:11 PM If they take senate they won’t need executive action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:12 PM Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:12 PM This is more about defining the method of his intended gun control rather than walking back the intention itself.He has stated this is how he's going to get gun control done, and recognizes it's limitations. He has intent, but will he spend political capitol to get Bloomberg's bidding done? If it's true, It's good news, no matter how you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:13 PM Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:13 PM If they take senate they won’t need executive action.That's assuming that every single Democrat will vote for gun control. Be kind, contact your representatives, and stay in their business. They won't pass any significant gun control without EOs, that's my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:23 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:23 PM If they take senate they won’t need executive action. That's assuming that every single Democrat will vote for gun control. Be kind, contact your representatives, and stay in their business. They won't pass any significant gun control without EOs, that's my guess.I want cold hard facts! Not guessing my AR’s life depends on it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:34 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:34 PM "But, he said, he would not seek to use executive action to mandate policy changes that he has long said are up to Congress to make." Two days later:"I said WHAT???"Didn’t Obama say the same thing for 6-7 years about immigration before doing a 180 and making immigration law via DACA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:59 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 01:59 PM "But, he said, he would not seek to use executive action to mandate policy changes that he has long said are up to Congress to make." Two days later:"I said WHAT???" Didn’t Obama say the same thing for 6-7 years about immigration before doing a 180 and making immigration law via DACA?DACA was to keep people who were essentially Americans here and with a path to citizenship like they should have. Many didn’t even know they were illegal immigrants. That was an EO that was correct in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted December 11, 2020 at 02:08 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 02:08 PM "But, he said, he would not seek to use executive action to mandate policy changes that he has long said are up to Congress to make." Two days later:"I said WHAT???"Didn’t Obama say the same thing for 6-7 years about immigration before doing a 180 and making immigration law via DACA?DACA was to keep people who were essentially Americans here and with a path to citizenship like they should have. Many didn’t even know they were illegal immigrants. That was an EO that was correct in doing so. There is no path to citizenship in DACA.The Dream Act, introduced in 2001 and never passed, had a provision for citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted December 11, 2020 at 02:15 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 02:15 PM "But, he said, he would not seek to use executive action to mandate policy changes that he has long said are up to Congress to make." Two days later:"I said WHAT???"Didn’t Obama say the same thing for 6-7 years about immigration before doing a 180 and making immigration law via DACA?DACA was to keep people who were essentially Americans here and with a path to citizenship like they should have. Many didn’t even know they were illegal immigrants. That was an EO that was correct in doing so. There is no path to citizenship in DACA.The Dream Act, introduced in 2001 and never passed, had a provision for citizenship. Directly no but indirectly yes, the deferred action allows to apply as a LPR which in turn after allotted time allows you to become a citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:22 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:22 PM "But, he said, he would not seek to use executive action to mandate policy changes that he has long said are up to Congress to make." Two days later:"I said WHAT???"Didn’t Obama say the same thing for 6-7 years about immigration before doing a 180 and making immigration law via DACA?DACA was to keep people who were essentially Americans here and with a path to citizenship like they should have. Many didn’t even know they were illegal immigrants. That was an EO that was correct in doing so. My point was Obama pushed for “comprehensive immigration reform” for 6 years all the while saying he did not have the constitutional power to do it by EO. He then turned around and did what he said he could not do. His VP at the time was Biden and the example of ignoring the separation of powers is there if you care to look. I made no judgment on immigration, illegal or otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:33 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:33 PM This is more about defining the method of his intended gun control rather than walking back the intention itself.He has stated this is how he's going to get gun control done, and recognizes it's limitations. He has intent, but will he spend political capitol to get Bloomberg's bidding done? If it's true, It's good news, no matter how you slice it. I guess if you like to constantly be on defense his intentions are great. Personally, I get a littlle tired of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:35 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:35 PM If they take senate they won’t need executive action.That's assuming that every single Democrat will vote for gun control. Be kind, contact your representatives, and stay in their business. They won't pass any significant gun control without EOs, that's my guess. LMFAOO! You don't know my reps bud. They would love nothing more than to send federal agents to my house... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeghl Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:44 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:44 PM This is more about defining the method of his intended gun confiscation rather than walking back the intention itself. Considering the source, the influences on that source, and the ultimate aim of the socialists that are aspiring to power at this very moment.... And the way that danged Constitution keeps hindering their plans so they have to 'talk pretty' for a while, first. Fixed that for you............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:44 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:44 PM DACA was to keep people who were essentially Americans here and with a path to citizenship like they should have. Many didn’t even know they were illegal immigrants. That was an EO that was correct in doing so. Incorrect.DACA was to keep cheap labor for cronies here. If you think politicians don't serve their cronies, you haven't lived in this country long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:56 PM Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 03:56 PM This is more about defining the method of his intended gun control rather than walking back the intention itself.He has stated this is how he's going to get gun control done, and recognizes it's limitations. He has intent, but will he spend political capitol to get Bloomberg's bidding done? If it's true, It's good news, no matter how you slice it. I guess if you like to constantly be on defense his intentions are great. Personally, I get a littlle tired of it. We're always on defense. That's the nature of the game. I don't like it, but this is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted December 11, 2020 at 04:43 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 04:43 PM DACA was to keep people who were essentially Americans here and with a path to citizenship like they should have. Many didn’t even know they were illegal immigrants. That was an EO that was correct in doing so. Incorrect.DACA was to keep cheap labor for cronies here. If you think politicians don't serve their cronies, you haven't lived in this country long. please provide some evidence on that................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted December 11, 2020 at 05:36 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 05:36 PM This is more about defining the method of his intended gun control rather than walking back the intention itself. If they take senate they won’t need executive action. In a direct Biden quote . . . " Bingo!! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted December 11, 2020 at 07:42 PM Share Posted December 11, 2020 at 07:42 PM They must be feeling good about Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted December 12, 2020 at 12:18 AM Share Posted December 12, 2020 at 12:18 AM You can not believe anything he says because it is up to his puppet masters and he does not have a clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted December 12, 2020 at 05:09 AM Share Posted December 12, 2020 at 05:09 AM They must be feeling good about Georgia. Why shouldn't they? After what they did in this election, none of their actions surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted December 13, 2020 at 03:58 PM Share Posted December 13, 2020 at 03:58 PM please provide some evidence on that................ Illegal aliens work for a fraction of the pay Americans do. This means lower labor costs. This means more profits. This means bigger bonus checks for CEO's. If you think that these people would not be buying politicians of both halves of the one party system to ensure they can get cheap labor, you're not paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted December 13, 2020 at 05:59 PM Share Posted December 13, 2020 at 05:59 PM please provide some evidence on that................ Illegal aliens work for a fraction of the pay Americans do. This means lower labor costs. This means more profits. This means bigger bonus checks for CEO's. If you think that these people would not be buying politicians of both halves of the one party system to ensure they can get cheap labor, you're not paying attention.Great speculation there, got some credible sources? Or is this the same as all patriots buy American made? You know most illegals dont work for CEOs they work in small businesses where they dont need a SSN or ITIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted December 13, 2020 at 06:37 PM Share Posted December 13, 2020 at 06:37 PM Gentlemen, the title of this thread is: Biden walks back threats of Executive Orders on gun control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101abn Posted December 13, 2020 at 09:48 PM Share Posted December 13, 2020 at 09:48 PM My prediction, FTS on all Semi Autos with an EO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted December 13, 2020 at 11:10 PM Share Posted December 13, 2020 at 11:10 PM My prediction,FTS on all Semi Autos with an EO.I hope you are wrong but I have a horrible feeling you may well be right on rifles at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted December 14, 2020 at 05:34 PM Share Posted December 14, 2020 at 05:34 PM "But, he said, he would not seek to use executive action to mandate policy changes that he has long said are up to Congress to make." Two days later:"I said WHAT???"Didn’t Obama say the same thing for 6-7 years about immigration before doing a 180 and making immigration law via DACA?DACA was to keep people who were essentially Americans here and with a path to citizenship like they should have. Many didn’t even know they were illegal immigrants. That was an EO that was correct in doing so. Sorry but, no it wasn't, not legally and Constitutionally. That isn't within the Executive Office's powers, nor is any gun ban. That is the whole point. And, from practical matter, it's incorrect, as any POTUS can rescind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted December 14, 2020 at 09:21 PM Share Posted December 14, 2020 at 09:21 PM They must be feeling good about Georgia. I think it's the opposite, they know they aren't going to take the Senate so they are setting the stage for blaming Biden's inevitable failure to deliver any policy promises on GOP obstruction. Its probably better for them anyway, they get way more mileage out of playing the victim than they do from anything they actually pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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