steveTA84 Posted November 13, 2019 at 04:09 PM Share Posted November 13, 2019 at 04:09 PM Follow the money.....https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/il-sb1966-fix-the-foid-bio-bill-and-some-more-info-on-who-s-behind-it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDoctor Posted November 13, 2019 at 04:49 PM Share Posted November 13, 2019 at 04:49 PM Figures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted November 13, 2019 at 05:47 PM Share Posted November 13, 2019 at 05:47 PM Who would have guessed?? I'll go look for my shocked face. Good work, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 13, 2019 at 05:55 PM Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 at 05:55 PM Who would have guessed?? I'll go look for my shocked face. Good work, Steve.Im just as shocked as you are. Im even more shocked that Bloombergs The Trace featured an article about SB1966 and had Jones in it. https://www.thetrace.org/2019/04/illinois-lawmakers-want-to-fingerprint-gun-buyers/ Under federal law, though, only buyers of particularly destructive weapons such as machine guns must undergo fingerprinting. At least six states have extended this to also include purchases of handguns. But in Illinois, as in most of the country, handgun buyers are checked just through basic biographical and descriptive information. Its a massive hole, said Mark Jones, a former agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives who is senior policy director for the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence in Chicago. The question is: How many guns slip through it? Theres so much opacity its difficult to understand the scale. Point is that its big $$$ trying to push their way on us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted November 13, 2019 at 06:16 PM Share Posted November 13, 2019 at 06:16 PM Deleted. Never mind I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted November 13, 2019 at 07:42 PM Share Posted November 13, 2019 at 07:42 PM Money talks in Illinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted November 13, 2019 at 08:44 PM Share Posted November 13, 2019 at 08:44 PM Who would have guessed?? I'll go look for my shocked face. Good work, Steve.Im just as shocked as you are. Im even more shocked that Bloombergs The Trace featured an article about SB1966 and had Jones in it. https://www.thetrace.org/2019/04/illinois-lawmakers-want-to-fingerprint-gun-buyers/Under federal law, though, only buyers of particularly destructive weapons such as machine guns must undergo fingerprinting. At least six states have extended this to also include purchases of handguns. But in Illinois, as in most of the country, handgun buyers are checked just through basic biographical and descriptive information.Its a massive hole, said Mark Jones, a former agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives who is senior policy director for the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence in Chicago. The question is: How many guns slip through it? Theres so much opacity its difficult to understand the scale.Point is that its big $$$ trying to push their way on us all.Isn't that corruption and quid pro quo and conspiracy to take away people's Constitutional rights, where are the feds and Trump's justice department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted November 13, 2019 at 10:13 PM Share Posted November 13, 2019 at 10:13 PM Good work, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScopeEye Posted November 14, 2019 at 01:40 AM Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 01:40 AM Money talks in IllinoisYep... Bribes& False promises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted November 14, 2019 at 04:56 AM Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 04:56 AM Connect the dots, backtrack to the source. Kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted November 14, 2019 at 01:39 PM Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 01:39 PM K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work. Can someone give a 50cent overview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 14, 2019 at 01:55 PM Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 01:55 PM K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work. Can someone give a 50cent overview?Basically, John Podestas Center For American Progress (a D.C. based group rolling in the $$$ to push and advocate for progressive change) is involved in pushing SB1966 and theyre funded by George Soros OSF. Mark D. Jones, whos with ICHV (and his partner/girlfriend/wife is the president of States United, which is the National hub of state chapters of Ceasefire, which ICHV is ours) is also with CAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted November 14, 2019 at 02:29 PM Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 02:29 PM So Bloomberg is totally clean? LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 14, 2019 at 02:48 PM Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 02:48 PM So Bloomberg is totally clean? LOL. Ha!!! No lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted November 14, 2019 at 03:18 PM Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 03:18 PM K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work. Can someone give a 50cent overview?Basically, John Podestas Center For American Progress (a D.C. based group rolling in the $$$ to push and advocate for progressive change) is involved in pushing SB1966 and theyre funded by George Soros OSF. Mark D. Jones, whos with ICHV (and his partner/girlfriend/wife is the president of States United, which is the National hub of state chapters of Ceasefire, which ICHV is ours) is also with CAP. TY Not surprised AT all. Likely part of the attack on the legacy of gun ownership. Make it expensive, and who will be willing to pay for a child to have a FOID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 14, 2019 at 03:52 PM Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 03:52 PM K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work. Can someone give a 50cent overview? Basically, John Podestas Center For American Progress (a D.C. based group rolling in the $$$ to push and advocate for progressive change) is involved in pushing SB1966 and theyre funded by George Soros OSF. Mark D. Jones, whos with ICHV (and his partner/girlfriend/wife is the president of States United, which is the National hub of state chapters of Ceasefire, which ICHV is ours) is also with CAP.TY Not surprised AT all. Likely part of the attack on the legacy of gun ownership. Make it expensive, and who will be willing to pay for a child to have a FOID?Well, when you have foreign interests/money involved..... Gotta pull their assets and see how much is invested in foreign countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 14, 2019 at 04:17 PM Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 04:17 PM K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work. Can someone give a 50cent overview?Basically, John Podestas Center For American Progress (a D.C. based group rolling in the $$$ to push and advocate for progressive change) is involved in pushing SB1966 and theyre funded by George Soros OSF. Mark D. Jones, whos with ICHV (and his partner/girlfriend/wife is the president of States United, which is the National hub of state chapters of Ceasefire, which ICHV is ours) is also with CAP.TY Not surprised AT all. Likely part of the attack on the legacy of gun ownership. Make it expensive, and who will be willing to pay for a child to have a FOID?Well, when you have foreign interests/money involved.....Gotta pull their assets and see how much is invested in foreign countries Without even digging too hard (per their tax forms, they transfer funds from the main org to the action fund, which is backing SB1966) https://www.americanprogress.org/our-supporters-2016/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt guy Posted November 14, 2019 at 06:04 PM Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 06:04 PM Amazing how much money is tossed around this government to create and control agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 14, 2019 at 06:35 PM Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 06:35 PM Amazing how much money is tossed around this government to create and control agendas. No kidding. Further research also finds that Heather Podestas (Tony Podestas (Johns Brother) Ex-wife and lawyer in DC) law firm lobbies for a not-for-profit in Springfield (GEOTHERMAL HEAT PUMP CONSORTIUM INC). Their mission: TO ADVANCE THE GEOTHERMAL HEAT PUMP INDUSTRY THROUGH PUBLIC POLICY ADVOCACY, PUBLIC RELATIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, BRANDING, CONSUMER ACCEPTANCE AND COORDINATION WITH UTILITIES AND RENEWABLE ENERGY ADVOCATES. Tony actually shut down his firm in 2017 after the Mueller investigation found that his group represented not for profits in the Ukraine that were involved in the Russia mess https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/23/16520242/tony-podesta-mueller-investigationA report from CNN earlier this year described how the Podesta Group repeatedly contacted the State Department about Ukraines 2012 election, attempting to put a positive spin on the regimes handling of the elections. However, and crucially, they didnt disclose the full extent of their work in federal lobbying filings until earlier this year and per NBC, that failure to disclose has caught Muellers attention. (A Podesta group spokesperson emailed me last week to insist that all appropriate legal disclosures were made.)Point: its all a web and powerful D.C. lobbyists/groups are screwing with our rights and laws here in IL, and we are the ones that lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 14, 2019 at 06:54 PM Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 06:54 PM Also, check this out. Per here (also a linked in OP article), concentrate on Accurate Biometrics’ lobbyist Paula Riggins https://ilwd4cr.home.blog/2019/05/23/fix-the-foid-less-rights-for-us-more-money-for-cronies/ Guess what? She’s ALSO a director with the ICHV! https://pdf.guidestar.org/PDF_Images/2017/237/443/2017-237443033-100d507b-9.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 14, 2019 at 07:26 PM Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 07:26 PM Article in OP has been scrubbed!!!! No one touched it on our end!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchDoctor Posted November 14, 2019 at 08:29 PM Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 08:29 PM Article in OP has been scrubbed!!!! No one touched it on our end!!!!! Bizarre, but not surprising. I will run some Kali Linux on that particular web server to see what we can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 14, 2019 at 08:32 PM Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 08:32 PM Article in OP has been scrubbed!!!! No one touched it on our end!!!!! Bizarre, but not surprising. I will run some Kali Linux on that particular web server to see what we can see.Every outside link is dead for every article regardless of author. Can only access directly from the site. Admin is looking into it but if you can find anything it would be helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 14, 2019 at 10:57 PM Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 at 10:57 PM Links working again. Very weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted November 15, 2019 at 01:40 AM Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 at 01:40 AM Jones!!!!!!!! Jones is their (CAP) guy!!!! SB1966 slips (proponents for one of the amendments) http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/witnessslip.asp?DocNum=1966&DocTypeID=SB&LegID=119887&GAID=15&SessionID=108&GA=101&SpecSess= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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