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  1. Drury hates guns and thinks it's owners who politically stands up for themselves to be, in a word, "vomit worthy".
  2. Cities or states can't prosecute federal statutes. If they have some city ordinance and that in any way applies to handguns, it's preempted.
  3. To reiterate, All persons effected by this, specifically visitors to Illinois who have actually had the training but cannot apply for a license, need to immediately PM Molly B. or send an email to VRowe AT Illinoiscarry.com with your contact information.
  4. Substantially similar is facially unconstitutional because it's an irrational law, plus 2A.
  5. No state (other than Illinois) that I'm aware of that issues to non-residents charges a higher price for non-resident permits. If you have examples I'd be curious to know which ones. "Most gun friendly states" aren't under court order to respect concealed carry as a fundamental constitutional right. The only other state I'm aware of that has a (state) court order to issue carry permits as a constitutional right is Indiana, they don't issue permits to non-residents but do recognize all other permits non-discriminately for non residents. Many of those "gun friendly" states have unregulated open carry as their accomodation of the civil right, with concealed carry treated as a priviledge. It is an absolute certainty that the "substantially similar" provision will be challenged along with the underlying UUW statute if this policy continues. The only question is who will sponsor it (or possibly multiple suits), and what plaintiffs will be selected.
  6. The choice of Hawaii and only Hawaii is positively Orwellian newspeak. ISP didn't want to ever issue a nonresident license so they chose the state which has never issue one in their history...
  7. I'm not sure I understand your question. If you're asking if I asked somebody directly from ISP, then no. I did find the information of Hawaii being the only approved state on the Illinois CCL web site. I found it finally under "Checklist". I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
  8. Does anyone have an official source for Hawaii in terms of carry app opportunity with ISP? Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk
  9. If you end up suing ILLINOIS remember to use the equal protection as one of your chief arguement since there will be at least three classes of individuals: residents with carry licenses, non-residents with carry licenses, and non-residents without carry licenses. This would be a mistake considering what was stated in Shepard II and Posner's statement about "open carry" laws and the reaming that occurred of counsel during the Shepard II oral arguments. As someone who has directly litigated this precise issue in the 10th Circuit, it would be a mistake to solely focus on equal protection. When Moore v. Madigan went up last year, it was against a facial challenge against the public carry ban statute. Merely going after the concealed carry license issuance would be a mistake, as both the District Court or even the 7th Circuit could, in the hypothetical case of Non-Residents of Illinois v. Hiram Grau could cite Peterson v. Martinez. You need to go after the public carry ban again and ask for an injunction against that statute, along with an alternative relief for issuance of the license, and you need to basically attack the carry ban again. It can even be done on a preliminary injunction, or even a TRO. The substantially similar requirement is irrational without 2A being thrown in, in light of the fact that substantially similar language has only been used in reciprocal licensing agreements instead of being allowed to even apply. This all being said, it's been made clear repeatedly by Todd and Molly that the current ISP interpretation is going to be constitutionally problematic, particularly when no bordering state of Illinois qualifies under their interpretation, and if Moore was any indicator, the non-resident vehicle carry provision isn't going to be enough to satisfy.
  10. MTD Filed by Cook County State Attorney Alvarez, via Paul Castiglione: http://ia601702.us.a...283284.21.0.pdf I can't believe he's arguing this with a straight face. He had better hope that the IL legislature passes shall-issue carry so he is spared the embarassment of the inevitable smackdown by NRA-ILA legal and by a federal judge.
  11. It doesn't matter if it's core to the case. SCOTUS can resolve on any ground, including EP.
  12. Has there been any filings to the Supreme Court of Illinois especially in light of the 7th Circuit decision.
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