vito Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:44 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:44 AM I for one predict Trump will win, and do so overwhelmingly. Clinton is such a bad candidate and so dislikable that I see her base failing to show up on Election Day, especially if they think she has a lock on the election. Angry working class whites will go for Trump, and these folks don't respond to pollsters so much of the doom and gloom predictions are due to this factor. If you agree that Clinton would be a disaster for gun owners, and almost everyone else, send the Trump campaign a few bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:50 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:50 AM $What?! A crummy commercial?!$ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:51 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:51 AM Face it, Hillary is the next President. I am voting for Gary Johnson, but the day the FBI said she broke the law 110 times but they won't press charges... She is our next president. It's been over for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtr100 Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:53 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:53 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtr100 Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:55 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:55 AM Face it, Hillary is the next President. I am voting for Gary Johnson, but the day the FBI said she broke the law 110 times but they won't press charges... She is our next president. It's been over for weeks. this is a dumb thing to do - librarian party candidates are only relevant in home owners association and pta elections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:57 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:57 AM A dumb thing to do will be to vote for the lesser of two evils. You are still voting for evil. I believe Gary Johnson is the best candidate which isn't saying much based on the elephant and the jack a** he is running against. Voting for the lesser of two evils for the last several generations is what got this country in the mess we are in.But the nice thing is neither mine nor your votes count anyways, so we are just pissing in the wind discussing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gebbster Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:59 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 01:59 AM Face it, Hillary is the next President. I am voting for Gary Johnson, but the day the FBI said she broke the law 110 times but they won't press charges... She is our next president. It's been over for weeks. Wasting a vote on the Libertarian party is not what we need now. With needing to fill 4-5 SCOTUS positions, the next president will surely gave the power to change the future. It may be over, but we need to fight until the end. I am not in love with Trump, but worst case this is for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoverGunner Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:00 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:00 AM Face it, Hillary is the next President. I am voting for Gary Johnson, but the day the FBI said she broke the law 110 times but they won't press charges... She is our next president. It's been over for weeks. Anyway you cut it , slice it , call it , rationalize it . Thats a Vote for Hillary . PLAIN and Simple . You might as well Poll for her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:00 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:00 AM Face it, Hillary is the next President. I am voting for Gary Johnson, but the day the FBI said she broke the law 110 times but they won't press charges... She is our next president. It's been over for weeks.Wasting a vote on the Libertarian party is not what we need now. With needing to fill 4-5 SCOTUS positions, the next president will surely gave the power to change the future. It may be over, but we need to fight until the end. I am not in love with Trump, but worst case this is for 4 years. See above reply. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:02 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:02 AM Face it, Hillary is the next President. I am voting for Gary Johnson, but the day the FBI said she broke the law 110 times but they won't press charges... She is our next president. It's been over for weeks. Anyway you cut it , slice it , call it , rationalize it . Thats a Vote for Hillary . PLAIN and Simple . You might as well Poll for her That may well be true. I will stand by my decision with my head held high and with a clear conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyRebel Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:02 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:02 AM This is Illinois. Do you really believe this state will go red? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:04 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:04 AM This is Illinois. Do you really believe this state will go red?My point exactly. BTW, I do really like a couple of trumps picks for various cabinet positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:04 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:04 AM Some are guessing an 80/30 split for Clinton. Trump reportedly is losing his old white guy base. Nice to see him apologize for whatever some reports say he apologized for today. Trump was the Democratic Party dream candidate before the first primary debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplant Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:06 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:06 AM A dumb thing to do will be to vote for the lesser of two evils. You are still voting for evil. I believe Gary Johnson is the best candidate which isn't saying much based on the elephant and the jack a** he is running against. Voting for the lesser of two evils for the last several generations is what got this country in the mess we are in.But the nice thing is neither mine nor your votes count anyways, so we are just pissing in the wind discussing this. Gary Johnson's VP is an anti. On gun issues, between the four pairs of candidates, there are three evils, and Trump. I voted for Cruz, and I'm voting for Trump. I've sent him some money also not because he needs money, but because he needs a show of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:08 AM Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:08 AM I find it difficult to believe that after all the discussions online about the real impact of voting Libertarian, I.e., Hilary wins, there are still people ignorant or dumb enough to say they support the 2nd Amendment but are voting for other than Trump. They are the "useful idiots" of the Democrat Party. Pitiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:08 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:08 AM Some are guessing an 80/30 split for Clinton. Trump reportedly is losing his old white guy base. Nice to see him apologize for whatever some reports say he apologized for today. Trump was the Democratic Party dream candidate before the first primary debate.80/30 split? New math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22cal Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:08 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:08 AM If you are on this forum it's because you are a gun owner and you enjoy your right to keep and bear arms and the ability to protect yourself and love ones. So to me there is only one candidate to ensure that you will keep those rights!! Trump! Any other vote then your on the wrong forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:08 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:08 AM Oh his VP is a lunatic. Trust me, I took notice. But that's the VP.I would have voted for Cruz, I would have preferred Rand. I wanted to vote for Trump, but he just won't shut his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:09 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:09 AM I find it difficult to believe that after all the discussions online about the real impact of voting Libertarian, I.e., Hilary wins, there are still people ignorant or dumb enough to say they support the 2nd Amendment but are voting for other than Trump. They are the "useful idiots" of the Democrat Party. Pitiful.I am sorry that I insulted your savior. No I am not. It's funny when I just repeat myself so I'll do it twice more and then bow out. 1) I will stand by my decision with my head held high and a clear conscience. 2) None of our votes count anyways so we are just pissing in the wind discussing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gLockedandLoaded Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:10 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:10 AM There is one evil and that is Hildebeast. Voting for Gary Johnson is not going to stop her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade13 Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:17 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:17 AM Trump will win. He may even win Illinois. The Libertarian candidates this year are not the best candidates.Turn off the Lame Stream Media, it's full of lies. Tens of thousands routinely turn out to see Trump, while Clinton can barely manage a couple hundred. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/donald-trump-surging-black-voters-bests-romney-mccain-latino-voters/http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/shock-poll-trumps-black-support-grows-6x-after-milwaukee-appeal/http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/americans-immigrants-back-donald-trumps-immigration-vetting/http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291783-trump-goes-to-war-against-media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:24 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:24 AM I predict Trump will win as well. Something HAS to be done about the open borders, terrorism, and political ccorrectness, etc. The two party system plays good cop-bad cop. It's time for the "bad cop" to come in and clean up the place. The elites will allow Trump to win, clean up, and then usher in the "nice" politician in 2020 or 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:28 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:28 AM Trump will win. He may even win Illinois. The Libertarian candidates this year are not the best candidates.Turn off the Lame Stream Media, it's full of lies. Tens of thousands routinely turn out to see Trump, while Clinton can barely manage a couple hundred. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/donald-trump-surging-black-voters-bests-romney-mccain-latino-voters/http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/shock-poll-trumps-black-support-grows-6x-after-milwaukee-appeal/http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/americans-immigrants-back-donald-trumps-immigration-vetting/http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291783-trump-goes-to-war-against-media The main reason Trump is so despised is because of the media. Everything he says is twisted into so called "hate speech". Meanwhile, no one asks Hillary any tough questions. He's running against Hillary and the media at the same time. There are lots of people who will vote for him, but cannot say so for fear of retribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:30 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:30 AM Face it, Hillary is the next President. I am voting for Gary Johnson, but the day the FBI said she broke the law 110 times but they won't press charges... She is our next president. It's been over for weeks. His VP is anti-gun. A vote for GJ is not a vote for Hillary but it is one less vote for Donald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:37 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:37 AM Some are guessing an 80/30 split for Clinton. Trump reportedly is losing his old white guy base. Nice to see him apologize for whatever some reports say he apologized for today. Trump was the Democratic Party dream candidate before the first primary debate. 80/30 split? New math? Liberal math? I was just padding for the cheaters... 80/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:42 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:42 AM Trump will win. He may even win Illinois. The Libertarian candidates this year are not the best candidates. Turn off the Lame Stream Media, it's full of lies. Tens of thousands routinely turn out to see Trump, while Clinton can barely manage a couple hundred. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/donald-trump-surging-black-voters-bests-romney-mccain-latino-voters/http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/shock-poll-trumps-black-support-grows-6x-after-milwaukee-appeal/http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/americans-immigrants-back-donald-trumps-immigration-vetting/http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291783-trump-goes-to-war-against-media The main reason Trump is so despised is because of the media. Everything he says is twisted into so called "hate speech". Meanwhile, no one asks Hillary any tough questions. He's running against Hillary and the media at the same time. There are lots of people who will vote for him, but cannot say so for fear of retribution. He might be despised because he is seen by many as a despicable, blustery, name calling bullying sort of a man. It might be entirely his own fault. Were he a saintly honest highly regarded businessman he would be depicted as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:55 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:55 AM To everyone who says our votes don't count here in Illinois , I wonder how it was that the following graph shows Republicans winning Illinois.http://www.270towin.com/states/IllinoisThe only way a Republican has a chance to win is if all the people who who say they are voting for Gary Johnson vote for Trump instead. Yes 1988 was the last year , however how many Republicans stay home or vote for someone else because they don't agree with the party candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyRebel Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:59 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 02:59 AM To everyone who says our votes don't count here in Illinois , I wonder how it was that the following graph shows Republicans winning Illinois. http://www.270towin.com/states/Illinois The only way a Republican has a chance to win is if all the people who who say they are voting for Gary Johnson vote for Trump instead. Yes 1988 was the last year , however how many Republicans stay home or vote for someone else because they don't agree with the party candidate. How many dead people voted democratic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted August 19, 2016 at 03:00 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 03:00 AM Wait for the debates - then make a choice.Trump could very well destroy Hillary in the first one by just speaking to all the baggage she carries.She talks about making millionaires "pay their fair share" like she's only got 10 bucks in a savings account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted August 19, 2016 at 03:07 AM Share Posted August 19, 2016 at 03:07 AM Trump will win. He may even win Illinois. The Libertarian candidates this year are not the best candidates.Turn off the Lame Stream Media, it's full of lies. Tens of thousands routinely turn out to see Trump, while Clinton can barely manage a couple hundred. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/donald-trump-surging-black-voters-bests-romney-mccain-latino-voters/http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/shock-poll-trumps-black-support-grows-6x-after-milwaukee-appeal/http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/americans-immigrants-back-donald-trumps-immigration-vetting/http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291783-trump-goes-to-war-against-media The main reason Trump is so despised is because of the media. Everything he says is twisted into so called "hate speech". Meanwhile, no one asks Hillary any tough questions. He's running against Hillary and the media at the same time. There are lots of people who will vote for him, but cannot say so for fear of retribution.He might be despised because he is seen by many as a despicable, blustery, name calling bullying sort of a man. It might be entirely his own fault. Were he a saintly honest highly regarded businessman he would be depicted as such.I disagree. You can't get much more "saintly" than someone like Mitt Romney, or Ben Carson, yet they were constantly lambasted by the media simply for being conservatives. I only need to believe my own ears, and not the media or the leftists. As a so called "Latino", I've yet to be offended by anything Trump has said. I was more offended when Obama said: "If you've got a business – you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." THAT'S an insult to every freedom loving, hard working man and entrepreneur who ever lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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