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Posted 21 May 2019 - 02:03 PM

 

 

I wonder if she was taking about ISP's fee for doing the background check with the prints?


This is Rep Willis we are talking about.  I am pretty sure, she is just flat wrong, and made the figure up.

 


She's just saying what she was told to say.

 

As she always does.  She regurgitates whatever her handlers feed her.  


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Posted 21 May 2019 - 02:09 PM

I wonder if she was taking about ISP's fee for doing the background check with the prints?

yeah, I thought that might have been what she meant. What she knows, what she says, what she means, whats the truth...do not necessarily intersect.
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 02:10 PM

Right on her website’s main page

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Well that's fantastic- let's invite her to an "event"!!!  :ninja:



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Posted 21 May 2019 - 02:42 PM

Right on her website’s main pageXeX3WTS.jpg

 
Well that's fantastic- let's invite her to an "event"!!!  :ninja:

A Moms Demand Action event? Only not the gun grabbing kind?

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 02:42 PM

Willis is not concerned about the civil liberties of firearm owners, and says she would be ok with fingerprinting every citizen if it makes the state 'safer'.


Did she actually say this? If so it should be put to use by anyone running against her.
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 03:05 PM

 

I wonder if she was taking about ISP's fee for doing the background check with the prints?

yeah, I thought that might have been what she meant. What she knows, what she says, what she means, whats the truth...do not necessarily intersect.

 

 

I have wondered if she has any self-awareness. My impression would be...…"no".

 

And, I'm sure her answers concerning constitutionality will be award winners in campaign ads against ANY downstate pol that votes for this bill. 


Edited by springfield shooter, 21 May 2019 - 03:09 PM.

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 03:36 PM

 

She had the gall to ask "Has voting ever killed anyone".  And, frankly the Rs in the room dropped the ball in response.  Because, YES, in fact, voting does on a regular basis.  People that have voted for the idiots that created GFZ laws, just to start.


Beyond that, her analogy is deeply flawed.

The Second Amendments protects a right to keep and bear arms, not a right to commit murder. There is no right to commit murder.

And it's Chicago's murder problem she claims to want to solve, right?

 

No. Well, claims, perhaps. But like most of that crowd, the problem she really wants to solve is to convince donors to contribute to her future campaigns, and to get reelected.


Edited by Hap, 21 May 2019 - 03:37 PM.

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 03:52 PM

There are lots of politicians, maybe even all politicians, who don't write their own bills. I'm sure James Madison wrote the original draft of the Bill of Rights, but as the nation aged the actual words in legislation got drafted by aides, then eventually by lobbyists. I completely understand that legislators cannot know the content of every bill, sometimes even as they cast votes. They have to rely on analysis done by people they trust.

However, elected representative still got elected for some reason. They had some issues they advocated as central to their reason for running. I think most of them make it a point to be familiar with the legislation which they primary sponsor and which corresponds to those central issues of their campaign. Willis strikes me as an utterly clueless meat puppet.

Considering she got elected, there should be a majority of people in her district who actually believe her stated positions are the correct ones to have. From among them, there has to be some better example of human intellect in her district. And yet there she is.
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 04:36 PM

 

ISP representative is avoiding direct answers about FOID act.  He is BASICALLY also saying they support the bill because they will get more funds, and are currently unable to do what they are already tasked with under FOID.

Glad to see the ISP showing their true colors, infringing on rights is ok as long as they get more money. Nice job dodging questions too.

 

 

Is the ISP representative the guy that JB appointed for the position? Can't remember his name. Anyway, he'd just be doing the job he's been told to do.



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Posted 21 May 2019 - 04:53 PM

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 04:57 PM

It was John Thompson ISP legislative liaison.
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 04:59 PM

Willis is not concerned about the civil liberties of firearm owners, and says she would be ok with fingerprinting every citizen if it makes the state 'safer'.


Did she actually say this? If so it should be put to use by anyone running against her.
video of that statement https://www.thecente...75f82e4800.html
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 05:10 PM

Willis  elections:  (we  TRIED to get rid of her) she was installed by Madigan when  reliable republican Skip Saviano had a falling out with Mike Madigan.

The article quoted below Explains EVERYTHING, including the heavily gerrymandered district # 77.

 

So YES - Willis IS a tool, of Madigan.

 

2018
kathleen willis d  70.6   15,420
anthony airdo r    29.4    6,429   ( I worked on this )

2016
kathleen willis d  70.37  20,806
anthony airdo r    29.63   8,762

2014
kathleen willis d  unchallenged

2012   this is the first election of the heavily gerrymandered district, designed to get Angelo "Skip" Saviano out of office.
kathleen willis d  52.6   15,420
angelo saviano  r  47.4   12,357

 

from Crain's Chicago Business in 2012:

 

https://www.chicagob...ly-skip-saviano

 

Speaker Madigan declares war on ex-ally Skip Saviano
Greg Hinz
On Politics
November 02, 2012 07:00 AM

Of all the stories being told this campaign season, the best may be of the final unraveling of the gentleman's agreement
that long governed who got what on the Far Northwest Side and in the suburbs just east and south of O'Hare International Airport.

The deal principally was between Democrat Mike Madigan, the speaker of the Illinois House, and the late Don Stephens,
a Republican who built and ruled Rosemont and served as Leyden Township GOP committeeman. The symbol of their alliance
was state Rep. Angelo "Skip" Saviano, who is a Republican but who everyone in Springfield knew would be there for the
speaker if he really was needed.

But that was then. This election, Mr. Madigan's top priority -- other than electing Mike Madigan speaker, that is --
may be to knock off Mr. Saviano, who is struggling for survival against a Democratic foe who has money, muscle and more
behind her, thanks to the speaker.

Insiders say a lot of things caused the breach, including Mr. Stephens' death in 2007 and Mr. Saviano's decision to go on
the record last year in an article by my colleague Jim Ylisela about how the speaker's decision to block refunding of
McCormick Place bonds may have cost Illinois taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars.

But the first and main reason was the death of the Rosemont casino.

Mr. Stephens always had considered the casino to be the capstone of his career. Enabling legislation to move the 10th casino
license to Rosemont passed with the speaker's help. As per that and the greater alliance, Mr. Stephens was a big backer of
Lisa Madigan, the speaker's adopted daughter, when she ran for Illinois attorney general in 2002, supporting her over Republican Joe Birkett.

But once in office Ms. Madigan declared war on the Rosemont casino, saying insiders there had mob ties. Mr. Stephens felt betrayed,
and along with Mr. Saviano made what I'm told were some most injudicious personal remarks about the attorney general. Even now,
Mr. Saviano says that "his (Madigan's) daughter's disloyalty to Don Stephens" really caught in the old man's craw.

That was the start of the breakup. But there's more.

Mr. Saviano always had been the main sponsor of legislation to allow the agency that operates McCormick Place to refinance its debt.
But the speaker, saying that the agency had become too close to former Gov. Rod Blagojevich, said no. Mr. Saviano was quoted extensively
in last year's Crain's article on the matter, an article which was most unflattering to the speaker's view.

By the 2010 election cycle, Mr. Saviano had turned into a major financial backer of other House Republicans, raising and donating
hundreds of thousands of dollars, sources say.

The speaker couldn't do much about all of that at the time, since Mr. Saviano had a safe district anchored in the turf that had been
controlled by the Stephens clan — first the old man and now his son successor, Bradley Stephens. But in remap last year, the Madigan
controlled House produced a map that moved Mr. Saviano's new district entirely out of Rosemont and pretty much out of Leyden Township
at all.

Steve Brown, Mr. Madigan's spokesman, pretty much accuses Mr. Saviano of holding a grudge against the attorney general over the casino,
which instead opened in Des Plaines.

"The attorney general's decision was based on fact," he says. "The decision was made, and you go forward....People have to move on."

The speaker was right to block the McCormick Place refunding, Mr. Brown adds. "We weren't going to turn over that process to the Blagojevich fundraisers."

And, the speaker is backing Democrat Kathleen Willis in the district because, "The district would be better served by having a Democrat," Mr. Brown says.

Mr. Saviano isn't going easily — and, thanks to some Democratic bungling, is considered the front-runner in the race.
"Mike has changed," Mr. Saviano says.
"AS he's gotten older, he doesn't do anything that doesn't help him or Lisa...
I've just started telling him no. In fact, I haven't talked to him in two years."

But though the core of the old Northwest Side alliance is gone, pieces remain. Both area Democratic Sen. John Mulroe and
GOP state Rep. Mike McAuliffe somehow got good, winnable districts in the same remap that bonked Mr. Saviano.
And, I hear the speaker and the new Mayor Stephens had a lovely round of golf a few weeks ago.

So, things have changed. But not everything.

 

-------------- end of article ------------------

 

another take on it, from Capitolfax:  https://capitolfax.c...n-saviano-race/

 

 

And then Madigan moved Heaven and Earth to find an opponent for the locally popular Saviano, finally convincing an almost totally unknown local Republican to switch parties and challenge the incumbent.

 

Madigan dumped hundreds of thousands of dollars into the campaign, forcing Saviano to work harder on his reelection than he ever has.

 

Other shenanigans ensued - interesting reading....   follow the capitolfax link.

 

 

Deeper history on Madigan, written in 1997:  https://www.lib.niu....7/ii970412.html


Edited by markthesignguy, 21 May 2019 - 06:11 PM.

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 05:26 PM

Willis is not concerned about the civil liberties of firearm owners, and says she would be ok with fingerprinting every citizen if it makes the state 'safer'.

Did she actually say this? If so it should be put to use by anyone running against her.
video of that statement https://www.thecente...75f82e4800.html

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 05:48 PM

Too bad you can't find the soundbite where Willis compares voter ID's to FOID holders as "You have to have ID's to be killers"

That one stuck in my craw big time.


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Posted 21 May 2019 - 06:14 PM

Too bad you can't find the soundbite where Willis compares voter ID's to FOID holders as "You have to have ID's to be killers"
That one stuck in my craw big time.

There must be video somewhere. It was only audio on ILGA site and no coverage on Blueroom that I saw yet as seen above CenterSquare has video.
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 06:20 PM

 

Too bad you can't find the soundbite where Willis compares voter ID's to FOID holders as "You have to have ID's to be killers"
That one stuck in my craw big time.

There must be video somewhere. It was only audio on ILGA site and no coverage on Blueroom that I saw yet as seen above CenterSquare has video.

 

 

When did this occur?


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Posted 21 May 2019 - 06:29 PM

Too bad you can't find the soundbite where Willis compares voter ID's to FOID holders as "You have to have ID's to be killers"
That one stuck in my craw big time.

There must be video somewhere. It was only audio on ILGA site and no coverage on Blueroom that I saw yet as seen above CenterSquare has video.
 
When did this occur?
This was todays committee hearing on Willis HFA 1 to SB1966
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 06:30 PM

During the hearing. I listened to it all.

When the Lady Rep representative compared voter id to having a foid as a constitutional right

Willis replied in a snarky way that "You have to have ID's to be killers not vote" as memory serves.


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Posted 21 May 2019 - 06:35 PM

We need that audio. Bad.

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 06:46 PM

We need that audio. Bad.

It was about 15 min +- from when the video with her and Todd was shown in the article.


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Posted 21 May 2019 - 07:20 PM

Representative Parkhurst made a statement about her right to vote being guaranteed by the Constitution, in relation to the proposed FOID costs.

Shortly after, Representative Stava-Murray asked the question, "How many people have been killed by people voting?.

Representative Willis answered, "To my knowledge, none."

I'm not sure about the other statements.

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 07:32 PM

Representative Parkhurst made a statement about her right to vote being guaranteed by the Constitution, in relation to the proposed FOID costs.Shortly after, Representative Stava-Murray asked the question, "How many people have been killed by people voting?.Representative Willis answered, "To my knowledge, none."I'm not sure about the other statements.


Gee, Hitler was voted into power.............

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 07:37 PM

Representative Parkhurst made a statement about her right to vote being guaranteed by the Constitution, in relation to the proposed FOID costs.Shortly after, Representative Stava-Murray asked the question, "How many people have been killed by people voting?.Representative Willis answered, "To my knowledge, none."I'm not sure about the other statements.

Gee, Hitler was voted into power.............

They also forgot : Stalin, Castro, Maduro, Chavez. Ask the deceased that were killed opposing these people how they feel about that dumb -#$ voting comment.
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 07:41 PM

We need that audio. Bad.

It was about 15 min +- from when the video with her and Todd was shown in the article.

They tell you how to get house committee video/audio/transcripts here!
https://www.isba.org/legislative/faq

“You may also get a CD of the transcript of House committee hearings from 1975 to present. To do so, please call the House of Representatives' Committee Clerk at (217) 782-8100. The Senate does not tape its committee hearings.”
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 09:23 PM

 

 

Representative Parkhurst made a statement about her right to vote being guaranteed by the Constitution, in relation to the proposed FOID costs.Shortly after, Representative Stava-Murray asked the question, "How many people have been killed by people voting?.Representative Willis answered, "To my knowledge, none."I'm not sure about the other statements.

Gee, Hitler was voted into power.............

They also forgot : Stalin, Castro, Maduro, Chavez. Ask the deceased that were killed opposing these people how they feel about that dumb -#$ voting comment.

 

 

It even goes deeper than that and hits home closer, the people that have brought this country to war (or police actions or conflicts or whatever) were elected officials aka voted for!

 

The rights enumerated in the 1st and the right to vote have been the catalyst of human killings for all of recorded human history and still today reign the number one catalyst that leads to human death even today.


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Posted 22 May 2019 - 03:47 AM


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Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:49 AM

On a vote 127/0 SB1966 will be favorably reported to the floor. Many of those aye votes expressed concern about the costs, etc but voted to get he bill out of committee.


Is there a breakdown of who voted yes. I couldn't hear it all

Committee vote along party line. I did read that 2 pro 2A members were subbed out before committee start.

http://ilga.gov/legi...B1966_26417.pdf

Hearing Date: May 21, 2019, Room C-1 Stratton Building, 8:30AM

12 YEAS 7 NAYS 0 PRESENT 0 NOT VOTING

N Bryant, Terri
N Cabello, John M
Y Cassidy, Kelly M
Y Connor, John
Y Greenwood, LaToya
Y Guzzardi, Will
N McCombie, Tony
N McDermed, Margo
Y Morgan, Bob
N Parkhurst, Lindsay
Y Slaughter, Justin
Y Stava-Murray, Anne
Y Turner, Arthur
Y Villanueva, Celina
Y West II, Maurice A
N Wilhour, Blaine
Y Willis, Kathleen
N Windhorst, Patrick
Y Zalewski, Michael J

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:49 AM

Questions about the $10 FFL transfer.  An FFL is a private business.  Can the state mandate how much a private business charges for its service?  What if the amount the state says the business must charge results in the business loosing money?  Can the state mandate a company loose money?  If a transfer results in a business loosing $10 per transaction because the state made them loose the $10 can the business come after the state to recoup its loses?


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Posted 22 May 2019 - 12:17 PM

Questions about the $10 FFL transfer.  An FFL is a private business.  Can the state mandate how much a private business charges for its service?  What if the amount the state says the business must charge results in the business loosing money?  Can the state mandate a company loose money?


The state will make it a condition of their super special ffl license.
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