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#31 Glock23

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 04:09 PM

It doesnt matter, prepare to give up your guns next year.

You go right ahead. I'm keeping everything I own.

Wait. You guys are planning to "turn in your guns" when ordered to do so? Is there another discussion board I can go to where there are gun owners with balls...?
 
Can anyone tell me why you have guns? I was under the impression that they were there to defend your freedoms from tyrannical government...freedoms that include your right to be armed. Do we no longer feel that?

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:21 PM

I don't have any guns, they're all airsoft ;)



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Posted 12 October 2018 - 01:33 AM

I forsee a huge uptick in boating accidents...



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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:44 AM

I forsee a huge uptick in boating accidents...

Mine were all turned in exchange for Wally World gift cards at one of those no questions asked buy backs.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:50 AM

 

I forsee a huge uptick in boating accidents...

Mine were all turned in exchange for Wally World gift cards at one of those no questions asked buy backs.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

 

 

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:54 AM

It doesnt matter, prepare to give up your guns next year.

 

No.  Change my mind...



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Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:43 PM

It doesnt matter, prepare to give up your guns next year.

 

Good luck with that, the state does not know what you or I own given that dealers maintain physical records of the sale. Unless the state seizes all the records, and magically finds the manpower to figure out who has what I have a difficult time understanding why Illinois won't end up in a similar situation like NY, with extremely low compliance rates lol



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Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:57 PM

Beep beep!

 

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 08:01 AM

Don’t kid yourselves, how many of you are the gun owner in the family, social circle or neighborhood. Someone will be the test case for
an AWB. Illinois doesn’t play around, we have FOID, we were forced by court order to implement CCW. It’s coming because the majority of those voting in this state want them gone and they don’t give a frock what we think. So welcome to felony land. After a short
period to get rid of them you have to keep it hidden, can’t transport it and turn your family members into coconspirators in Gun crimes.
Every MSR and hi cap mag will be as.UUW charge. More than a few of us here will have issues. This is the reality we are looking at.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 08:52 AM

Don’t kid yourselves, how many of you are the gun owner in the family, social circle or neighborhood. Someone will be the test case for
an AWB. Illinois doesn’t play around, we have FOID, we were forced by court order to implement CCW. It’s coming because the majority of those voting in this state want them gone and they don’t give a frock what we think. So welcome to felony land. After a short
period to get rid of them you have to keep it hidden, can’t transport it and turn your family members into coconspirators in Gun crimes.
Every MSR and hi cap mag will be as.UUW charge. More than a few of us here will have issues. This is the reality we are looking at.

 

Felony land? Our politicians allow illegal immigrants to vote, which is itself a felony. Our politicians should be the last people to honor and respect in this city-state, formerly called 'Illinois'. I can't wait to see the non-compliance rate for Illinois, nobody outside Chicago, and Cook County is going to comply. 



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Posted 13 October 2018 - 09:19 AM

Don’t kid yourselves, how many of you are the gun owner in the family, social circle or neighborhood. Someone will be the test case for
an AWB. Illinois doesn’t play around, we have FOID, we were forced by court order to implement CCW. It’s coming because the majority of those voting in this state want them gone and they don’t give a frock what we think. So welcome to felony land. After a short
period to get rid of them you have to keep it hidden, can’t transport it and turn your family members into coconspirators in Gun crimes.
Every MSR and hi cap mag will be as.UUW charge. More than a few of us here will have issues. This is the reality we are looking at.

 
Felony land? Our politicians allow illegal immigrants to vote, which is itself a felony. Our politicians should be the last people to honor and respect in this city-state, formerly called 'Illinois'. I can't wait to see the non-compliance rate for Illinois, nobody outside Chicago, and Cook County is going to comply.

And the crooked ******** are pretty much immune from prosecution.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 09:33 AM

Good luck with that, the state does not know what you or I own given that dealers maintain physical records of the sale.

 

 

If you purchased a firearm in IL, the state knows how many handguns and long guns you have purchased.  They don't know make and model.  The state doesn't destroy FTIP files.



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Posted 13 October 2018 - 12:28 PM



If you purchased a firearm **from an FFL** in IL, the state knows how many handguns and long guns you have purchased.


FIFY.

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 01:30 PM

 

Good luck with that, the state does not know what you or I own given that dealers maintain physical records of the sale.

 

 

If you purchased a firearm in IL, the state knows how many handguns and long guns you have purchased.  They don't know make and model.  The state doesn't destroy FTIP files.

 

 

So if they don't know the make and model, then it stands to reason any registration scheme is just a pretext for people to incriminate themselves. Oh sure, current AWB drafts specify that once registered, you can 'keep' your affected weapons, but we all know how that turned out in California.



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Posted 14 October 2018 - 04:27 AM

GTFOOI. Went to the bank yesterday. My banksters know we’re leaving the state. The young guy told me he is seeing money leaving at a crazy pace. Simple things like working class families moving to Indiana with one earner commuting to old job in Illinois, the other working at new Indiana job. Complex things like rich people reallocating businesses and other assets away from Illinois. Mobile people voting with their feet. Get out while you can. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 07:54 AM

I spoke with a young couple last night that are moving to Tennessee next month. She already has a better job lined up and he has a good prospect of a job.

They were saying that there are signs all over the Nashville area welcoming Illinois folks. Also a lot of bears and Cubs flags.

The exodus is real.

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 08:13 AM

 

If you purchased a firearm **from an FFL** in IL, the state knows how many handguns and long guns you have purchased.


FIFY.

 

If you purchased from an FFL, the state knows how many times you were approved for long gun purchase or handgun purchase.

 

On either purchase, couldn't you add on long arms?



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Posted 14 October 2018 - 10:42 AM

On either purchase, couldn't you add on long arms?

 

 

Can't remember if there was a "both" on the FTIP or if it was on the 4473.

 

I guess you could fool the system by purchasing more than 1 at a time on one background check.  The multiple handgun purchase form is something for the ATF and not the state.



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 08:07 AM

It doesnt matter, prepare to give up your guns next year.

 

People have criticized me for not wanting to "help the police" because after 10 years my records hit the fireplace.   

I have no record of ANY firearm that's over 10 years old and this isn't purple. 


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Posted 15 October 2018 - 08:11 AM

 

 

If you purchased a firearm **from an FFL** in IL, the state knows how many handguns and long guns you have purchased.


FIFY.

 

If you purchased from an FFL, the state knows how many times you were approved for long gun purchase or handgun purchase.

All the state knows is how many guns you've purchased.  They have no idea how many guns you currently have.  That's the one great thing about these "no questions asked" buy backs.  You could have turned in your guns at a buy back and there would be no way to prove you didn't do it.


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Posted 16 October 2018 - 10:34 AM

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