SycamoreRuger Posted October 16, 2017 at 08:19 PM Share Posted October 16, 2017 at 08:19 PM I love maps, so I decided to combine three reciprocity maps from the USCCA websitehttps://www.usconcealedcarry.com/travel/into one image to show what states are covered by three of the most common CCWs for Illinois residents. I learn better by looking at maps than I do lists of states. I am currently leaning toward getting a Utah license over Florida but I may change my mind again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ddiver Posted October 16, 2017 at 09:11 PM Share Posted October 16, 2017 at 09:11 PM The core states are the same. It really depends on where you travel as to which one is going to work out better. I have both but I travel to Florida and the only way to carry in Florida was a Florida permit. The Utah permit is cheaper for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted October 16, 2017 at 09:47 PM Share Posted October 16, 2017 at 09:47 PM The core states are the same. It really depends on where you travel as to which one is going to work out better. I have both but I travel to Florida and the only way to carry in Florida was a Florida permit. The Utah permit is cheaper for sure. Utah is VERY user friendly, and the process for applying is easy. I've also heard very good things about PAs permit, but I haven't had to get it, since I haven't been there in a while. I hope we get Reciprocity soon, but I wouldn't count on politicians ever doing what they promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Posted October 16, 2017 at 10:53 PM Share Posted October 16, 2017 at 10:53 PM Reciprocity is a fluid situation. It pays to check before traveling. Among other things, there is wide variance where carry is permitted or not. For example, you can carry in a bar in Montana, but only openly. Some states, e.g., Colorado, only recognize permits from your home state, and only if that state offered reciprocity with Colorado. The recently disgraced and disbarred Attorney General of Pennsylvania eliminated most reciprocity, but it is easy to get a Pennsylvania permit at any sheriff's office outside of a major city. Your existing permit practically guarantees approval. My preferred reference source is www.handgunlaw.us. Maps on this website show which states the selected state's permits are recognized. However there is a list of other states recognized and the conditions. You need to check each state you plan to visit or travel through. It doesn't hurt to make copies for easy reference. Depending on your travel, it probably pays to get both Florida and Utah. Training for both is similar, and Utah training can be added to Florida by reviewing Utah laws, or vice versa. I spend a lot of time in Florida, but also in Washington state (which recognizes Utah). Minnesota dropped Florida and Utah, but for reasons unknown, recognizes Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted October 16, 2017 at 11:43 PM Share Posted October 16, 2017 at 11:43 PM https://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html Their map lets you easily combine multiple licenses and also knows about the states that do not recognize non-resident licenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted October 17, 2017 at 12:59 AM Share Posted October 17, 2017 at 12:59 AM National reciprocity is a pipe dream in the near future, at least. Politicians lean whichever way the wind blows. No backbone. And after Vegas, you already see the spineless leaning to more useless gun control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Slider Posted October 17, 2017 at 01:52 PM Share Posted October 17, 2017 at 01:52 PM Maps are very useful but don't tell the whole story. Using the maps you provided if you had your IL and FL non-resident permits and carried in Arcadia National Park in Maine you are breaking the law and would be arrested. Though Maine is a Permitless Carry state there are still places in Maine you can't carry under Permitless Carry that you can carry in if you have a permit Maine Issues or Maine Honors. Maine does not honor all other states permit/licenses to carry and those they do honor they only honor the resident permits from those states. You would think being permitless carry they would honor all other states but they don't. https://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/plupr.html In Maine unless you have a permit they issue or honor you can't carry in their National Park. (Arcadia) Their State Parks. The Parking Lot storage rules don't apply to you and you can't carry a handgun when bow hunting. Carry laws in some state are easy to follow as they have them spelled out very plainly. In other states you have to dig deep to find out what you can legally do. Then people call the State Police or the AG of a state and get info. In my 22+ plus years of cataloging the Carry Laws of all the states www.handgunlaw.us I have received more incorrect information on the laws via phone from the Police or AG Offices than from any other source. Even if you look at all the state provided info from their websites most have a disclaimer saying they try to be correct but you must validate all the info or this info is not to be taken as law etc etc. Yes the maps are useful but they are only one little part of the answer. Look at everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumpnpump Posted October 17, 2017 at 01:57 PM Share Posted October 17, 2017 at 01:57 PM Interestingly, Arizona will get you reciprocity with New Mexico even though AZ is open and does not require a permit for carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted October 17, 2017 at 01:57 PM Share Posted October 17, 2017 at 01:57 PM Since Texas recognized IL licenses, I'd say the only reason to get an FL over a UT would be if you travel to FL. I got a UT license because my instructors offered an extra optional hour for free covering the UT law during my IL training. The application process was pretty easy and cheap. The biggest hassle was getting fingerprints done at my local police station. UT accepts paper fingerprints.My license got lost in the mail. I called and they just sent me out a new one. Very friendly people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Illiniwek Posted October 21, 2017 at 04:50 PM Share Posted October 21, 2017 at 04:50 PM I had business in Tampa this week and applied for my FL license in person at a Fla Dept of Agriculture and Consumer Services regional facility. I made an appointment for 10:30, signed in at 10:19, and was back in the rental car and on my way by 10:54. That included filling out the app online at one of their computer terminals, electronic finger prints, and having my pic taken. Total cost was $97. I had called when I knew I was going to be in FL and was told all i needed to bring was my driver's license, passport, or some other form of govt issued ID and a copy of an accepted training course. NRA Basic Pistol is fine, but I took a copy of my IL CCL training certificate, also. As i was leaving the lady gave me the copies of my certs back, a copy of my application (with a tracking number so I can check the status online) and said I should have my license within 6 weeks. Quick and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted October 21, 2017 at 06:29 PM Share Posted October 21, 2017 at 06:29 PM I love maps, so I decided to combine three reciprocity maps from the USCCA websitehttps://www.usconcealedcarry.com/travel/into one image to show what states are covered by three of the most common CCWs for Illinois residents. I learn better by looking at maps than I do lists of states. I am currently leaning toward getting a Utah license over Florida but I may change my mind again.Reciprocity-map_sm.pngTechnically Illinois does not have reciprocity with an other state. Reciprocity means that both states recognize each other licenses. As others have pointed out, there are other considerations. The law in the state in which you are physically applies, not necessarily the one in which you are licensed. Some states, like Michigan, will only recognize the license from the state of your residence. Before FCCL was passed here, so people got Utah licenses. They were recognized by several states, but Michigan and some others did not recognize those Utah licenses carried by Illinois residents. I realize that in your case this is not problem since you have an Illinois FCCL, but am just passing on general information for those to whom it might apply. I have Illinois, Florida, Utah, and Pennsylvania. That seems to give me the widest coverage for the states to which I may travel. It mostly a matter of personal need or preference. One member here has licenses from many states - kind of a collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Illiniwek Posted October 26, 2017 at 03:18 PM Share Posted October 26, 2017 at 03:18 PM I had business in Tampa this week and applied for my FL license in person at a Fla Dept of Agriculture and Consumer Services regional facility. I made an appointment for 10:30, signed in at 10:19, and was back in the rental car and on my way by 10:54. That included filling out the app online at one of their computer terminals, electronic finger prints, and having my pic taken. Total cost was $97. I had called when I knew I was going to be in FL and was told all i needed to bring was my driver's license, passport, or some other form of govt issued ID and a copy of an accepted training course. NRA Basic Pistol is fine, but I took a copy of my IL CCL training certificate, also. As i was leaving the lady gave me the copies of my certs back, a copy of my application (with a tracking number so I can check the status online) and said I should have my license within 6 weeks. Quick and simple. So, as i posted above, I applied (in person, while on business in Fla) for my FL permit on the 19th. I checked the status online this morning and see that it was issued on the 23rd. I applied on a Thursday and it was issued the following Monday. I'm pretty sure the good folks in Fla didn't work Saturday and Sunday. The status portal said to give it 15 days to print and be mailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted October 26, 2017 at 10:27 PM Share Posted October 26, 2017 at 10:27 PM I applied on a Thursday and it was issued the following Monday. Wow!!! Theyve really upped their game (or have at least caught up to the demand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Illiniwek Posted October 28, 2017 at 04:36 PM Share Posted October 28, 2017 at 04:36 PM I applied on a Thursday and it was issued the following Monday.Wow!!! Theyve really upped their game (or have at least caught up to the demand). They should send advisors to work with IL. lol It arrived in the mail today....so, applied on the 19th, issued on the 23rd, in hand on the 28th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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