RANDY Posted October 10, 2017 at 02:56 AM Share Posted October 10, 2017 at 02:56 AM I can't get it to open using Chrome pdf viewer, but works with Adobe reader DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted October 10, 2017 at 03:02 AM Share Posted October 10, 2017 at 03:02 AM I couldn't open either link in Chrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted October 10, 2017 at 08:25 AM Share Posted October 10, 2017 at 08:25 AM We would need to ask, if a non-resident obtained an Illinois CCL and then moved to Illinois, do they still have a valid license or will they need to reapply as a resident?Since this was bumped, I started re-reading the thread and this caught my attention. I wonder if this situation has occurred and what the result was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted October 10, 2017 at 01:27 PM Share Posted October 10, 2017 at 01:27 PM We would need to ask, if a non-resident obtained an Illinois CCL and then moved to Illinois, do they still have a valid license or will they need to reapply as a resident?Since this was bumped, I started re-reading the thread and this caught my attention. I wonder if this situation has occurred and what the result was?Simple. They would lose their CCL. Anyone that moves TO Illinois could not possibly pass a mental fitness test!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted October 10, 2017 at 08:02 PM Share Posted October 10, 2017 at 08:02 PM We would need to ask, if a non-resident obtained an Illinois CCL and then moved to Illinois, do they still have a valid license or will they need to reapply as a resident?Since this was bumped, I started re-reading the thread and this caught my attention. I wonder if this situation has occurred and what the result was?Simple. They would lose their CCL. Anyone that moves TO Illinois could not possibly pass a mental fitness test!! Definitely not!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted November 20, 2017 at 10:06 PM Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 at 10:06 PM Due to the work schedule and holidays and yada yada yada, we ask for 39 day extension up to and including January 19, 2018 Love, State of Illinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted January 6, 2018 at 11:44 AM Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 at 11:44 AM No surprise here, just as with Culp, The state has filed for and was granted a Motion of Time Extension again (3rd one) to Feb 22 by the Illinois Appellate Courts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted January 8, 2018 at 03:34 AM Share Posted January 8, 2018 at 03:34 AM No surprise here, just as with Culp, The state has filed for and was granted a Motion of Time Extension again (3rd one) to Feb 22 by the Illinois Appellate Courts Good grief !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted February 21, 2018 at 12:03 AM Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 at 12:03 AM Once again, no surprise here, just as in Culp v Madigan, the state has filed for and was granted a Time Extension (4th one) to March 29 by the Illinois Appellate Courts. This time the reason was as follows:Due to the sensitive nature of this proceeding I have been informed that one of the supervisors who must review the draft will be unavailable for the next two weeks because of his involvement in a case before the US Supreme Court. Accordingly I must request an additional extension of time of 35 days to ensure that there is adequate time for our internal review, as well as our client review. Moreover, I also need to turn my attention to a brief that is due on a final extension on March 6, 208 in the Appellate Courts. In addition to completing the brief in this case, I will need to draft the brief in the case referenced above. The Defendant-Appellee has requested three previous extensions of time to file his brief. He seeks not to delay this appeal unnecessarily, but instead to ensure that his counsel submits a brief that represents the states interests and is as thorough and helpful tho this Court as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted February 21, 2018 at 09:07 AM Share Posted February 21, 2018 at 09:07 AM Even after the warning after the last extension... and the court caved in again. The state has had what, 6 months to work on this? Pathetic state. Pathetic courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted February 21, 2018 at 01:49 PM Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 at 01:49 PM The filing was October 8, so they have had since that date to file their response on Appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted March 20, 2018 at 11:08 AM Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 at 11:08 AM Well, we are back again, at 10 days til the due date, the AG has blessed us with requesting another 35 day extension due to extension. Once the court signs a order agreeing or denying it, I will update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted March 20, 2018 at 02:55 PM Share Posted March 20, 2018 at 02:55 PM Wow, they will just keep asking for extensions hoping that you die before the case goes to trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted March 20, 2018 at 06:07 PM Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 at 06:07 PM Here is Illinois Motion for Extension, and our Objection. We are now waiting for the court to issue an order.Meyers v. ISP MTE5.pdfObjection to Motion for Extension of Time.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted March 20, 2018 at 09:24 PM Share Posted March 20, 2018 at 09:24 PM Last I checked, having an unmanageable caseload isn't an excuse for slow rolling anything. It's an ethical violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSD Posted March 21, 2018 at 03:30 AM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 03:30 AM Last I checked, having an unmanageable caseload isn't an excuse for slow rolling anything. It's an ethical violation.I get the point and realize that the Ag's office (If I recall it is the AG's office, sorry if I am wrong) is probably milking it. However, it is sometimes unfair to hold an assistant AG or assistant state's attorney to an ethical violation concept. I know the rules of professional conduct and even the ABA model rules support your assertion. However, neither an assistant AG or state's attorney can control their caseload. I am not saying that some don't abuse the leeway often granted by a court. However, the choice faced is deal with the workload or quit your job and go to private practice. They don't have the ability to simply turn down a case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 21, 2018 at 04:02 AM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 04:02 AM For some reason, I don't think these kind of shenanigans would fly in federal court... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted March 21, 2018 at 11:19 AM Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 11:19 AM Unfortunately Frank they do, go take a gander over at the Culp v Madigan. Its on the 5 or 6th Extension by the AG on Appeal for a brief, however the Federal court finally did draw a line and give a final order, which we are hoping comes out of this objection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted March 21, 2018 at 01:06 PM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 01:06 PM Last I checked, having an unmanageable caseload isn't an excuse for slow rolling anything. It's an ethical violation. I get the point and realize that the Ag's office (If I recall it is the AG's office, sorry if I am wrong) is probably milking it. However, it is sometimes unfair to hold an assistant AG or assistant state's attorney to an ethical violation concept. I know the rules of professional conduct and even the ABA model rules support your assertion. However, neither an assistant AG or state's attorney can control their caseload. I am not saying that some don't abuse the leeway often granted by a court. However, the choice faced is deal with the workload or quit your job and go to private practice. They don't have the ability to simply turn down a case.The buck stops with Lisa. I wouldn't advocate ARDC proceedings to suspend or disbar an AAG who's simply been directed to handle a case. I'd advocate for ARDC proceedings against Lisa herself for multiple reasons. This not even being close to the most egregious violation. She's busy going after Trump when she should be going added ISP for screwing with FOOD and CCL issuance. Or...Chicago for ignoring preemption. Or or or. I simply made the point that it isn't an excuse because courts keep accepting it as an excuse. Show cause order, demand the AAG's superior to appear and explain why these AAGs have unmanageable caseloads or face contempt citation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted March 21, 2018 at 02:40 PM Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 02:40 PM BEST News ever coming out of Illinois Today This court being fully advised, IT IS ORDERED that appellee's fifth Motion for Extension of Time to File is DENIED. Brief is due March 29, 2018Responding Order - 4th.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted March 21, 2018 at 03:04 PM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 03:04 PM BEST News ever coming out of Illinois Today This court being fully advised, IT IS ORDERED that appellee's fifth Motion for Extension of Time to File is DENIED. Brief is due March 29, 2018Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted March 21, 2018 at 03:24 PM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 03:24 PM BEST News ever coming out of Illinois Today This court being fully advised, IT IS ORDERED that appellee's fifth Motion for Extension of Time to File is DENIED. Brief is due March 29, 2018Congrats! I was wondering what would happen if they dis get another extension and then tried to do an end around stating Lisa will be leaving office shortly yada yada yada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSD Posted March 21, 2018 at 04:14 PM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 04:14 PM Last I checked, having an unmanageable caseload isn't an excuse for slow rolling anything. It's an ethical violation.I get the point and realize that the Ag's office (If I recall it is the AG's office, sorry if I am wrong) is probably milking it. However, it is sometimes unfair to hold an assistant AG or assistant state's attorney to an ethical violation concept. I know the rules of professional conduct and even the ABA model rules support your assertion. However, neither an assistant AG or state's attorney can control their caseload. I am not saying that some don't abuse the leeway often granted by a court. However, the choice faced is deal with the workload or quit your job and go to private practice. They don't have the ability to simply turn down a case.The buck stops with Lisa. I wouldn't advocate ARDC proceedings to suspend or disbar an AAG who's simply been directed to handle a case. I'd advocate for ARDC proceedings against Lisa herself for multiple reasons. This not even being close to the most egregious violation. She's busy going after Trump when she should be going added ISP for screwing with FOOD and CCL issuance. Or...Chicago for ignoring preemption. Or or or. I simply made the point that it isn't an excuse because courts keep accepting it as an excuse. Show cause order, demand the AAG's superior to appear and explain why these AAGs have unmanageable caseloads or face contempt citation. I completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted March 21, 2018 at 04:21 PM Share Posted March 21, 2018 at 04:21 PM Great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted March 24, 2018 at 02:17 AM Share Posted March 24, 2018 at 02:17 AM BEST News ever coming out of Illinois Today This court being fully advised, IT IS ORDERED that appellee's fifth Motion for Extension of Time to File is DENIED. Brief is due March 29, 2018 So, if the brief is not produced by the deadline, does that mean the case is forfeited and ruled in favor of the plaintiff? What are the ramifications of that if it happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted March 24, 2018 at 02:32 AM Share Posted March 24, 2018 at 02:32 AM I'm sure they'll produce a brief. If they write it in ten minutes or ten years it'll read like a 3 year old explaining why they need 10 more cookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Posted March 24, 2018 at 07:07 PM Share Posted March 24, 2018 at 07:07 PM BEST News ever coming out of Illinois Today This court being fully advised, IT IS ORDERED that appellee's fifth Motion for Extension of Time to File is DENIED. Brief is due March 29, 2018So, if the brief is not produced by the deadline, does that mean the case is forfeited and ruled in favor of the plaintiff? What are the ramifications of that if it happens? They claimed last time that their brief was completed, just that the supervisor hadn't had time to review it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted March 25, 2018 at 12:10 PM Share Posted March 25, 2018 at 12:10 PM So, if the brief is not produced by the deadline, does that mean the case is forfeited and ruled in favor of the plaintiff? What are the ramifications of that if it happens?Judge could issue a show cause order as to why the state defendant(a) should not be held in contempt. Judge could simply say "I gave you AMPLE opportunity to file this brief, you didn't, so we will proceed without the benefit of your brief." Depends on how p***** the judge is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmeyers Posted March 26, 2018 at 11:59 AM Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 at 11:59 AM Keep in mind, because this is the Appellate Brief, we unfortunately dont know who any of the judges on the 3 judge panel are as of yet, and won't until its set for oral arguments after the briefs are all submitted however the makeup of the 4th District Appellate Court appears to be very favorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted March 29, 2018 at 01:02 PM Share Posted March 29, 2018 at 01:02 PM They'll wait for the final second of the final minute before sending it. How long of a wait do you expect the next step to take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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