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#31 Chris

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 10:14 AM

ISRA alert did go out today:

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ALERT – Second Amendment Forum in Wheaton, Same Location as LCAV Debacle

Gun owners are encouraged to attend this forum that is sponsored and organized by two of the pro-second amendment folks that attended the recent "forum" in the same location by the League of Women Voters and Legal Community Against Violence.

As the previous event was not a forum at all, but a stern one-sided lecture, the organizers, recent congressional candidate Rosanna Pulido and second amendment advocate Don Castella plan an event where both sides are free to express their views, with ample time for questions and comments from the public.

Featured speaker is Dr. Paula Bratich of the Second Amendment Sisters.  Several gun control advocates have been invited to attend.

    WHEN: Tuesday, May 5, 2009. 7:00 PM. - 9:00 PM

    WHERE: Wheaton City Hall, Council Chambers, 303 W. Wesley St, Wheaton, IL

Please pass this alert on to all your gun owning friends and encourage them to attend the forum on Tuesday night.

Please post this alert to any and all Internet bulletin boards or blogs to which you belong.

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 10:20 AM

View PostRXtion, on May 4 2009, 11:03 AM, said:

View Post2nd amendment forever, on May 4 2009, 06:37 AM, said:

Someone heckled the main speaker, a Chicago man who survived the Virginia Tech massacre two years ago.
Damnit, this really chaffs me. That one line ruins the whole article for us.



I'm gonna try to be there after work. I'll bring my video camera if I can get there. If the event is packed I'll film what goes on outside the meeting and see if I can get some interviews with the people who couldn't get in.

It will be good to have another camera there, I'm bringing my tripod this time.
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 11:42 AM

News on this here:

http://www.dailyhera...tory/?id=290993
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 06:15 AM

Forgot to mention this earlier, I won't be sticking around there as long this time but:

I plan on been at Muldoon's again which is around the corner pretty much.

I'll get there between 5:30 and 5:45

Muldoon'sAddress:‎
133 W Front Street
Wheaton, IL 60187
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 08:02 AM

View PostChris, on May 5 2009, 07:15 AM, said:

Forgot to mention this earlier, I won't be sticking around there as long this time but:

I plan on been at Muldoon's again which is around the corner pretty much.

I'll get there between 5:30 and 5:45

Muldoon'sAddress:‎
133 W Front Street
Wheaton, IL 60187

I may be able to join you guys...I'll see later in the day how it shapes up.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 08:24 AM

See you guys at Muldoon's

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 03:00 PM

If Yas is going to cover all the things he mentioned in that other thread, I guess I'd better show. Just wish I had known about this before, would have prepped.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 03:08 PM

View PostChris, on May 5 2009, 07:15 AM, said:

Forgot to mention this earlier, I won't be sticking around there as long this time but:

I plan on been at Muldoon's again which is around the corner pretty much.

I'll get there between 5:30 and 5:45

Muldoon'sAddress:‎
133 W Front Street
Wheaton, IL 60187

I'll meet ya there! I could go for a burger.  :Drunk emoticon:
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 03:19 PM

View PostJohn Kopecky, on May 5 2009, 09:02 AM, said:

View PostChris, on May 5 2009, 07:15 AM, said:

Forgot to mention this earlier, I won't be sticking around there as long this time but:

I plan on been at Muldoon's again which is around the corner pretty much.

I'll get there between 5:30 and 5:45

Muldoon'sAddress:‎
133 W Front Street
Wheaton, IL 60187

I may be able to join you guys...I'll see later in the day how it shapes up.

Some emergencies have come up at work and I'm the guy tapped to fix them.   Won't be able to be there tonight.  I look forward to the youtube coverage.

Sorry all...John
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 04:13 PM

Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend. I forgot my camera at home today anyway. I look forward to the youtube videos. Have a good time tonight fellas. Keep your heads level and let the opposition be the ones to cause a scene.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 04:20 PM

I'll go directly to City Hall.
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 10:08 PM

I really enjoyed the presentation by all.
These young participants would blow away and ANTI's I ever seen.

It may have helped if they asked if there are any people who have different views before the Forum started to see where the Anti's went to.

I am surprised that many knew nothing of other organizations like the ISRS are doing.
But then again being new to this forum since following last fall, I would not know much either.

A Forum a month in communities would definitely wake up a lot of people.

Thanks to all in the Forums for keeping all of us informed so well.

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 10:09 PM

Nice to see everyone again. We filled the room again. :Drunk emoticon:

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 11:17 PM

I know everyone else will chime in here, But I'll start with the Thanks.....

To the organizers that made this meeting come forward.
To the speakers that took the time and effort to prepare the material and bring forward their personalities  and experiences and sharing with those that were able to attend. Each and every-ones effort helped!
To the ISRA bunch (staff)  that stood in the background and came forward with knowledge of facts and data in a manner that could be understood clearly by all.

You guys are going to love the video of the meeting !!!! by the end of the first two speakers, Michelle Jordan (remember her from meeting 1?) should be looking into a different career other than public speaking for ICPHV. Because The trained "lawyer" was blown out of the water by a couple of  17 year old prospective voters and god knows what else they will become in the future.  (I just hope they stay on our side!)

Big time success, and hopefully some people on the edge will see the presentation and take the challenge and check the facts presented this evening.     A couple of grand slams were hit out of the park tonight.


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Posted 06 May 2009 - 04:53 AM

View PostArch1GLK, on May 5 2009, 11:08 PM, said:

I really enjoyed the presentation by all.
These young participants would blow away and ANTI's I ever seen.

It may have helped if they asked if there are any people who have different views before the Forum started to see where the Anti's went to.

I am surprised that many knew nothing of other organizations like the ISRS are doing.
But then again being new to this forum since following last fall, I would not know much either.

A Forum a month in communities would definitely wake up a lot of people.

Thanks to all in the Forums for keeping all of us informed so well.
From today's Daily Herald:

http://dailyherald.c...tory/?id=291613

Teenagers gather to support gun ownership rights

By Robert Sanchez | Daily Herald Staff

Published: 5/6/2009 12:02 AM

A group of young people Tuesday night chimed in on the old debate over gun control.

And the message they stressed during a Second Amendment forum at Wheaton city hall was that gun-control measures won't reduce firearm-related violence.

"Additional laws and taking away the rights of the people to bear arms simply will never work," said Christos Dimoulis, a 15-year-old South Barrington resident.

The home-schooled student served as master of ceremonies during the meeting, which was held in response to an April 21 gun control forum sponsored by several League of Women Voters chapters and the Illinois Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

Because last month's forum was held for Wheaton North High School students, the organizer of Tuesday's event said she wanted local teenagers to participate.

"We must have high school students addressing the other side and their peers," said Rosanna Pulido, who invited several teens to speak.

Olivia Snow said she decided to participate because she wanted to talk about the value of the U.S. Constitution.

"We stand here today as young Americans feeling that it is our duty - not only to protect our own rights - but to protect the rights of the generations to come," the 17-year-old Wheaton resident told the crowd of more than 100 people.

Unlike last month's gun control forum, which was cut short because of hecklers, Tuesday night's forum was calm. Members of the audience interrupted speakers only to applaud, cheer or voice agreement.

While several gun-rights experts spoke, the teenagers got a huge response.

Nik Powell, a 16-year-old sophomore at Lake Park High School in Roselle, said he enjoys shooting guns with his father and uncle. "It's a good experience for the whole family as long as you know what you are doing," he said.

And 15-year-old Megan Liddy said shooting sports and hunting have helped boost her confidence.

"I haven't always been good at school and I haven't always been good at sports," the Wheaton Warrenville South High School student said. "But I have always been good at shooting and I have always been able to beat people at it."

Dimoulis argued that increased gun-control measures will only make it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to obtain firearms. At the same time, criminals will find a way to arm themselves.

"The government fails to realize that they cannot legislate morality," Dimoulis said. "If a person is immoral, no law will make that person do what is right."

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 06:33 AM

i have just e-mailed this article to my son's debate teacher. my son was the student from lake park high school in roselle. i was very proud of him and all of the students did a wonderful job
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 07:44 AM

View Postboog, on May 6 2009, 07:33 AM, said:

i have just e-mailed this article to my son's debate teacher. my son was the student from lake park high school in roselle. i was very proud of him and all of the students did a wonderful job
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Were there any folks there in opposition or neutral, or was this event mainly just preaching to the choir?

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 07:53 AM

View PostJohn Kopecky, on May 6 2009, 08:44 AM, said:

Were there any folks there in opposition or neutral, or was this event mainly just preaching to the choir?

John

Good question.  I surely would like to know.
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 07:56 AM

Preaching to the Choir. Didn't see a single opponent there.
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 07:58 AM

Great Job, everyone!
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 08:38 AM

View PostSilver Guardian, on May 6 2009, 08:56 AM, said:

Preaching to the Choir. Didn't see a single opponent there.

Maybe "preaching to the choir", but at least the Herald was there.....

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 08:46 AM

First Video, still processing -
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 09:00 AM

View PostChris, on May 6 2009, 09:46 AM, said:

First Video, still processing -


Damn Chris - there is hope for the future!     :thumbsup:
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 09:31 AM

View PostChris, on May 6 2009, 09:46 AM, said:

First Video, still processing -


:thumbsup: :clap: :clap:

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 09:40 AM

WOW!!! What a start!! Great to see the young people getting involved like that!  :thumbsup:

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 09:49 AM

If you liked video 1 you will really like video two, you might have to wait a bit since it's still processing.



Second Amendment Wheaton Forum - May 5, 2009 1 -

Second Amendment Wheaton Forum - May 5, 2009 2 -
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 10:57 AM

Video two is all good now but three will still process for a bit.


Second Amendment Wheaton Forum - May 5, 2009 1 -

Second Amendment Wheaton Forum - May 5, 2009 2 -

Second Amendment Wheaton Forum - May 5, 2009 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toz6TOsfAv4
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 11:23 AM

Thank you so much for posting all this Chris.  Much appreciated.
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 11:27 AM

View PostJohn Kopecky, on May 6 2009, 12:23 PM, said:

Thank you so much for posting all this Chris.  Much appreciated.

No problem, here's another but you'll have to wait for it a little.



Second Amendment Wheaton Forum - May 5, 2009 1 -

Second Amendment Wheaton Forum - May 5, 2009 2 -

Second Amendment Wheaton Forum - May 5, 2009 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toz6TOsfAv4

Second Amendment Wheaton Forum - May 5, 2009 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9KW3esNfM
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 12:14 PM

Regarding video 3:
We need to stop citing the "email from an Australian police officer."

The source is suspect, and the facts very misleading.  Although I'm on our side, we have to not just site emails that get sent to us from our buddies and repeat the facts stated in the email as gospel.

http://www.snopes.co...ics/ausguns.asp
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