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#1 pingpong45

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 06:53 PM

I need help with the medical appeal process. This was the first time i applied for the card
 
i live near Oswego area and my FOID was deined due to Medical reasoning....I was admitted to a facility because i was dumb and stupid 7 years ago and didn't know what i was doing there hasn't been anything else on my records no arrest no charges....what should i be doing to get my rights restored, any of f you know a physician, clinical psycologist, or a qualified examiner
 
 
Below is the letter i recieved
 
"Your application for a firearm owner's identification (FOID) card has been denied. You are prohibited from firearms for reasons listed below and pursuant to:
 
430 ILCS 65/8 (U) - A person who has had his or her FOID card revoked or denied under subsection (e) of 430 ILCS 65/8 or item (iv) of section 4 of the FOID act because he or she was a patient in a mental health facility, shall not be premitted to obtain FOID, after the 5 year period has lapsed, 
 
unless he or she has recieved a mental health evaluation by physician, clinical psycologist, or a qualified examiner and has recieved a certification that he or she is not a clear and present danger to himself, herself and others
 
MENTAL HEALTH ADMISSIONS OVER 5 YEARS 5/19/2010 DUPAGE COUNTY, IL
 
for additional infomation please call ........."
 
 


#2 Mick G

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 07:22 PM

My friends wife had the same issue. She called the following link because the psychologist at the hospital (who BTW was a child psychologist) said she would never have a gun again. She was only held for about 15 hours and released. The place was https://www.psycholo...evaluation.html but be forewarned, they weren't cheap. You might want to PM Molly and read the posts pertaining to this issue on here. There are some references to friendly doctors. The 5 year thing on the FOID application means nothing. You have to be cleared by a physician, clinical psychologist or a qualified examiner even if it was quite a while ago.

PM Molly, she'll know the best way to handle this.



#3 Molly B.

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:18 PM

Forms that you will need to file:

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...pealRequest.pdf

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...vestigation.pdf

 

This form must be filled out by a physician, clinical psychologist or qualified examiner and mailed directly to the ISP.

https://ispfsb.com/P...vestigation.pdf

 

If you do not have a personal physician who can do the mental health evaluation, you might consider contacting the public health department in your area.


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#4 pingpong45

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:31 PM

My friends wife had the same issue. She called the following link because the psychologist at the hospital (who BTW was a child psychologist) said she would never have a gun again. She was only held for about 15 hours and released. The place was https://www.psycholo...evaluation.html but be forewarned, they weren't cheap. You might want to PM Molly and read the posts pertaining to this issue on here. There are some references to friendly doctors. The 5 year thing on the FOID application means nothing. You have to be cleared by a physician, clinical psychologist or a qualified examiner even if it was quite a while ago.

PM Molly, she'll know the best way to handle this.

Thank you very much. appreciate your help 



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:34 PM

Forms that you will need to file:

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...pealRequest.pdf

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...vestigation.pdf

 

This form must be filled out by a physician, clinical psychologist or qualified examiner and mailed directly to the ISP.

https://ispfsb.com/P...vestigation.pdf

 

If you do not have a personal physician who can do the mental health evaluation, you might consider contacting the public health department in your area.

Thank you very much. appreciate your help and the links 



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Posted 10 October 2017 - 01:59 PM

I believe you may be in luck! OneLink Healthcare, Inc. has established a web based evaluation program for FOID card restoration. We have forensic psychologists and forensic psychiatrists who can review your information, and meet with you in a private web based video forum. They can then complete the form you will need to submit to ISP. Please visit www.onelink.healthcare for contact information. I hope we can help!

 

By the way - one Chicago based program charged $1500 and you had to drive to them. Ours is $750 and web based.


Edited by OneLink Healthcare, 10 October 2017 - 02:01 PM.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 07:46 AM

Wow, this shouldn't be an issue regardless.  Are they going to deny people their rights because they've seen a cardiologist too?  Geez.

And the law says 5 years, but they just ignore it?



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 10:54 AM

Wow, this shouldn't be an issue regardless.  Are they going to deny people their rights because they've seen a cardiologist too?  Geez.

And the law says 5 years, but they just ignore it?

 

 

The statute was changed a few years ago to require a mental health evaluation as a part of the restoration process.  So, wait the five years, get the evaluation, and file the appeal.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 11:39 PM

Forms that you will need to file:

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...pealRequest.pdf

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...vestigation.pdf

 

This form must be filled out by a physician, clinical psychologist or qualified examiner and mailed directly to the ISP.

https://ispfsb.com/P...vestigation.pdf

 

If you do not have a personal physician who can do the mental health evaluation, you might consider contacting the public health department in your area.

I believe that the physician form is this one:

 

https://ispfsb.com/P...lhealthcert.pdf

 

The $750-$1500 charges that some referred to above seem a bit steep, especially as it should be within the capabilities of your primary care physician. It might even be worth it to check around at a few offices to see what the "cash price" for doing this might be if you have no PCP as I am not sure if this is covered under insurance (I am not an office MD and I can promise you an emergency room would not do this). The public health department is a great idea although if you don't catch the right person who has done this before, you may end up in bureaucratic purgatory.

 

Best of luck to you,

 

Daemos, MD


Edited by Xyphis, 11 October 2017 - 11:44 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:04 AM

My friends wife PC looked at that paper and said no way. General practitioners are afraid to put their career on the line over something like this. If you look into this, you will find that $750 is actually low. My friends wife paid 4 times that and had to bring in every medical record that involved anything mental health related. I think she had to go through about 3 hours of one on one talking with a psychologist. 

 

I'm not shilling for OneLink Healthcare, Inc., I never heard of them and don't know what their success rate is. My wife's friend had to jump through hoops to get her FOID back all because she got into an argument with my friend (her husband), the neighbors called the PD and she said something to a LEO that he didn't like. Off to the psych ward she went in an ambulance.

 

This place actually stopped dong the evaluations:  http://www.nicapc.co...eMyFOIDCard.htm

I think it is because all the BS involved. Repeating myself my friends wife was put through the ringer but fought and fought to get her Rights restored and did. Her PC said "this needs to be filled out by a shrink". Believe me she has told me the story 1000 times. It was all because she said the wrong thing to a cop who didn't like it. After 15 hours she was released because she was never a threat to herself or others.

 

The moral of this is regardless of how mad you are: Shut your mouth in front of the police.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:46 AM

Lots of great concerns! OneLink Healthcare uses qualified forensic psychologists and forensic psychiatrists to provide these reviews for you. Per the rule on FOID card restoration this evaluation needs to be by a psychologist or psychiatrist. You cannot get this done by a PCP, nor in the emergency room. They are not qualified to do this and will shy away from this. I know, because I am a PCP.

 

The rule also mandates that we must have the mental health records for review in order to help make the appropriate determination if one is, or is not, a threat to themselves or others. These records are only reviewed by your evaluator.

 

If these steps are followed, and you MUST be honest with our reviewers, then it should be simple. However, the determination of this must only be made by a qualified mental health professional.

 

We have got to stop making this more difficult than it is. If someone truly made mistakes, or had difficulties that they have dealt with, and our mental health professional determines all is well, then it should be so. We can learn from our past, make the necessary midcourse corrections, and move on.

 

If one is unwilling to do so, then be prepared. You may have to live without a FOID card.

 

If one is willing to be honest, then spend the $750 and let the chips fall where they may. It is the best option available to date. Once the releases are signed, records received and reviewed, payment made, and the video visit done we can see where you stand in this process.

 



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 11:30 AM

To me, it sort of looks like pingpong 45 and OneLink Healthcare could be one in the same. I think it is a big coincidence that they both joined the forum within a few days of each other, and OneLink just happens to have the remedy for the OPs problem. WOW! It's a miracle. (Just my opinion based on cursory observations.)



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:06 PM

There are different forms for less than five years since the disqualification and more than five years.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 01:10 PM

To me, it sort of looks like pingpong 45 and OneLink Healthcare could be one in the same. I think it is a big coincidence that they both joined the forum within a few days of each other, and OneLink just happens to have the remedy for the OPs problem. WOW! It's a miracle. (Just my opinion based on cursory observations.)

I would just like to say that if that is the case, I am in no way part of it. I was just telling my friends wife's story about what she what through. It wasn't an easy or quick process. It was like $3000. I honestly know she had to fight tooth and nail to get her FOID reinstated. I was actually replying to Xyphis, this paper is something that a PCP runs away from when they see it. $750 does seem a bit low though. Perhaps some actually references as to their actual success rate should be in order? I am also not a big believer in coincidence.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:01 PM

 

To me, it sort of looks like pingpong 45 and OneLink Healthcare could be one in the same. I think it is a big coincidence that they both joined the forum within a few days of each other, and OneLink just happens to have the remedy for the OPs problem. WOW! It's a miracle. (Just my opinion based on cursory observations.)

I would just like to say that if that is the case, I am in no way part of it. I was just telling my friends wife's story about what she what through. It wasn't an easy or quick process. It was like $3000. I honestly know she had to fight tooth and nail to get her FOID reinstated. I was actually replying to Xyphis, this paper is something that a PCP runs away from when they see it. $750 does seem a bit low though. Perhaps some actually references as to their actual success rate should be in order? I am also not a big believer in coincidence.

 

Very interesting. I am not a huge fan of coincidences either. However, I am not at all surprised by timing. Wish I could say I know pingpong 45 but I do not.

 

I do want to be clear that we are only providing the evaluation needed to satisfy one part of the process for getting a FOID card reinstated. And, I cannot promise that the outcome of the evaluation results in your successful reacquisition of the card. Hope that helps!



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:39 PM

if you still need a guy pm me. il give you the name of the the guy i used.thats all im gonna say on here.  Tommy



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:23 PM

To me, it sort of looks like pingpong 45 and OneLink Healthcare could be one in the same. I think it is a big coincidence that they both joined the forum within a few days of each other, and OneLink just happens to have the remedy for the OPs problem. WOW! It's a miracle. (Just my opinion based on cursory observations.)

I had the exact same thoughts. Too coincidental, way too.


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