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#1 Brownshoe

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 04:08 PM

I saw this thread on whether to get Utah vs. Florida (http://illinoiscarry...showtopic=66886), and it got me thinking about what combinations of licenses can get you the most states. I want to restrict this to those states that do not require inordinate measures to achieve, and I came up with this list.

If done in this order:

1) Illinois gets you Illinois
2) Florida gets you a bunch of states
3) New Hampshire gets you NH and Pennsylvania
4) Utah gets you Washington

This gives you 39 states including Maine (constitutional carry).

The following might be possible:
DC
Rhode Island

I think the following states are impossible or very difficult:
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Hawaii
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New York
Oregon
South Carolina

Can anyone come up with more to add?

Edited by Brownshoe, 23 October 2017 - 12:12 PM.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 04:37 PM

The CCW 50 State App is a great resource. There is no coming up with anything it’s all right there. You put in your license and it gives you the state/s you can carry in. You can add all your licenses and you can see where you can carry. I use this resource all the time.
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Posted 16 October 2017 - 04:38 PM

I think that's about it.

 

IL          =   30

+FL       =   37

    or

+UT       =  36

    or

+FL,UT  =  38

    add

PAorNH =  39

 

Depending on where you travel IL+UT seems to be the most cost effective way to increase the total.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 05:32 PM

The CCW 50 State App is a great resource. There is no coming up with anything it’s all right there. You put in your license and it gives you the state/s you can carry in. You can add all your licenses and you can see where you can carry. I use this resource all the time.

 

I agree.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 05:36 PM

The following might be possible:
Massachusetts

I think the following states are impossible or very difficult:
California
Colorado
Connecticut
DC (until the new procedures is decided)
Hawaii
Maryland
New Jersey
New York
Oregon
Rhode Island
South Carolina

Can anyone come up with more to add?

Last I knew CT was essentially shall issue and actually not too bad to get, but really only gets you CT, so almost no one does that unless you're a local or travel there frequently.

MA is going to be next to impossible. DC looks to be possible but very convoluted if they leave their process the same but without the cause requirement.

In theory OR or CO could be possible, if a sheriff would decide to be pro-carry as Sheriff Nau did in PA years ago. CO also has 90 day "emergency" carry licenses with almost no requirements that do not require residency, but again, try to find a sheriff that will issue one.

There are only (IIRC) 3 states in play between non-resident FL, UT, or AZ licenses - those states being FL, NM, and WA.

PA is by far the easiest non-resident license to get, if you travel to PA since you have to get it in person now.

There is someone on the board that was applying for an NY license, it's theoretically possible but not very practical. RI is similar.

Edited by Gamma, 16 October 2017 - 05:36 PM.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 06:55 PM

SC you just need to buy  some property then you can apply for CCL


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 06:59 PM

 

PA is by far the easiest non-resident license to get, if you travel to PA since you have to get it in person now.

Fast and friendly, they do it while you wait.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:57 PM

The CCW 50 State App is a great resource. There is no coming up with anything it’s all right there. You put in your license and it gives you the state/s you can carry in. You can add all your licenses and you can see where you can carry. I use this resource all the time.

Absolutely. That's what I use.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:03 PM

PA is by far the easiest non-resident license to get, if you travel to PA since you have to get it in person now.

Fast and friendly, they do it while you wait.

Mine took 20 minutes, only because there was someone in line ahead of me :)
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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:58 AM

I was wondering about Rhode Island which issues non-resident LTC. I read some comments by those from Rhode Island on the Truthaboutguns website. It said only .5 percent (1/2 of 1%) have a LTC. One guy had his for 4 years and was told he should withdraw his renewal application because otherwise he'd be denied. They had added a page of 10 questions about your need for a LTC. He had no incidents in 4 years that indicated they should not approve of his renewal. He also mentioned that he has a girl friend who is stalked by her ex, she had a 2 hour interview with detectives who approved her but was told by "the committee on licensing" to withdraw her request because she'd be turned down.

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 10:00 AM

I read through the Rhode Island rules, and it does seem doable. It's not so unlike Florida in that they require fingerprints and proof of training / qualification. The biggest obstacles is see are

1) You have to go pick up the license in person; they will not mail it to you.
2) It's not clear if they will accept the Illinois qualification the way Florida does.
3) Lots of things need to be notarized, which is a big hassle.
4) You must either own property in RI OR have a license from another state (probably means your home state).
5) The police chief in your home jurisdiction needs to return a signed form, which will never happen if you live in Chicago, or anywhere sufficiently large.

I might try, though, even though going to Rhode Island would be a big hassle.

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 03:17 PM

My "carry number" is 39.



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Posted 20 October 2017 - 03:21 PM

I think that's where we are practically stuck. The only thing I would add is that it was super easy to apply for Maine, which gets you some extra places you can carry within the state that are not allowed under their constitutional carry rules. It's a rather minor benefit for a $60 fee, but if you camp there often, it could be worth it.

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 08:47 AM

I think the "easiest states" to get are the 13 constitutional carry states without anything more than your US-based birth certificate and a clean record.


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 06:48 AM

I think that's about it.

 

IL          =   30

+FL       =   37

    or

+UT       =  36

    or

+FL,UT  =  38

    add

PAorNH =  39

 

Depending on where you travel IL+UT seems to be the most cost effective way to increase the total.

 

This is correct.  As an Illinois resident, 39 is the most you can easily get.  This is done w/ 4 Licenses.  (And this includes the fact that ME allows permit less carry (but with some restrictions.))  You can also get ME license if you wish to carry in state / federal parks in ME. 

 

Other ones which are possible are RI (somewhat hard as they are hit & miss on following the law, but can be done), DC (as of this month; but you have to do everything in-person, and they will make you jump through some hoops).  The other states are either may-issue (which varies widely by state) or require to you live there / own property.  If you own property or work in in SC or CO, you may be able to get one of them.

 

BTW, I wrote the CCW 50 State App (iPhone & Android), and this resource is always kept up-to-date.  You can plug in any state license (or combination of state licenses) to see where they are valid. 


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Posted 23 October 2017 - 12:10 PM

BTW, I wrote the CCW 50 State App (iPhone & Android), and this resource is always kept up-to-date.  You can plug in any state license (or combination of state licenses) to see where they are valid.


Without a doubt! I did all my research for this post off your (extremely valuable, IMHO) app. I just wanted to know if anyone has had different experiences based on reality, rather than what is on paper. It's actually good to know that the on-paper legislation meets reality.

Edited by Brownshoe, 23 October 2017 - 12:10 PM.






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