Strangebrew Posted July 26, 2016 at 10:38 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 10:38 PM I can't think of anyone worse for the future of gun rights in Illinois than Durbin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidl1978 Posted July 26, 2016 at 10:52 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 10:52 PM I can't think of anyone more stupid than Dick Durbin. What an embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:23 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:23 PM That would be the nail in the coffin to my IL residency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadyRunner Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:24 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:24 PM That would be the nail in the coffin to my IL residency Quinn didn't cause you to leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevis Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:24 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:24 PM That would be the nail in the coffin to my IL residencyI'd be squeezing through the door with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonap Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:27 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:27 PM Maybe they meant, "Governor of the United States"??? (A new position Hillery wants - just to CHA - Cover Her A..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:33 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:33 PM I can't think of anyone worse for the future of gun rights in Illinois than Durbin.Not JUST gun rights. OMFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:33 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:33 PM That would be the nail in the coffin to my IL residency I'd be squeezing through the door with you!I'm not opening the door or shutting it behind me, I'm busting through it and leaving it open for everyone. I just ask for the last person through to brick it up and lock the rest in. I used to think I only wanted to move somewhere that had my favorite recreational activities. Morels and whitetails, along with all seasons of weather. Now I am starting to reevaluate that thought. Where would I want to be when the liberals try to take over? If and when states start seceding, I want to be in the right one already and not figuring out how to get in one that is/has. TX is a good bet to start with. The Conservatives vs the Liberals, the new aged Red Coats vs Blue Coats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoverGunner Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:35 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:35 PM I can't think of anyone worse for the future of gun rights in Illinois than Durbin.Perhaps next time you could post less details and a possible linkAll the information you posted is too much to comprehend SHEESH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:36 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:36 PM Lisa Madigan says she is still keeping her options open. Maybe she needs to put together a listening tour. If only we had a Democratic governor then this silly budget fiasco would have been settled in a non partisan fashion (as in no opposition remaining) and a bill passed with the appropriate revenue enhancements a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:50 PM Share Posted July 26, 2016 at 11:50 PM If only we had a Democratic governor then this silly budget fiasco would have been settled in a non partisan fashion (as in no opposition remaining) and a bill passed with the appropriate revenue enhancements a long time ago.That is supposed to be purple right?! Absolutely I agree if we had a pawn to Madigan, ie: Dmocrat, we would have a shiiting budget passed already. Mike Madigan wants all the spending but none of the funding. I say no to any budget that is not balanced first and foremost. I also say no to any budget that would raise taxes at all, we already have the highest in the nation. We need to CUT spending period. $127 billion in debt counting state pensions. This debt excludes chicago and chicago pensions which are probably even with Illinois. We have got to CUT spending. We NEED austerity. I'm glad Rauner is playing hard ball with Crooked Madigan. No to any budget that isn't balanced. No to any budget that raises taxes. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRJY Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:00 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:00 AM The next governor will be a Democrat. It will suck for gun rights period. It doesn't matter which one wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous too Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:00 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:00 AM I would urge the senator to jump off the IL River bridge of his choosing attached via a rope to the highest part of the superstructure. Perhaps he could get Madigan to do a tandem jump with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:02 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:02 AM And to think, a lot on this site couldn't/wouldn't vote for Rauner. He doesn't even get a few SCOTUS picks. Glad I voted Rauner, and reassured why I will vote for Trump A backbone is what is needed for the highest position in a state/nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:08 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:08 AM Would you rather have him as governor or senator? Pick your poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:09 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:09 AM Lisa Madigan says she is still keeping her options open. Maybe she needs to put together a listening tour.My reaction was that if Durbin is being encouraged to run for Governor, it's because Mike has decided it's time for his daughter to be in the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:11 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:11 AM Would you rather have him as governor or senator? Pick your poison.Senator, we have more of the nation on our side there. Put him as governor we have to go through the courts to reverse his signing of a democratically controlled two county state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VannDaddy Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:13 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:13 AM Would you rather have him as governor or senator? Pick your poison.Well, at least as governor of Illinois his chances of getting jail time skyrocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:14 AM Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:14 AM Lisa Madigan says she is still keeping her options open. Maybe she needs to put together a listening tour.My reaction was that if Durbin is being encouraged to run for Governor, it's because Mike has decided it's time for his daughter to be in the Senate. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:15 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:15 AM Would you rather have him as governor or senator? Pick your poison.Well, at least as governor of Illinois his chances of getting jail time skyrocket.Interesting twist lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:34 AM Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:34 AM Would you rather have him as governor or senator? Pick your poison.He's a lot more dangerous to Illinois as a Governor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ott Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:55 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:55 AM I can't think of anyone more stupid than Dick Durbin. What an embarrassment.+1,000! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted July 27, 2016 at 01:14 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 01:14 AM I thought Durbin was duking it out with Schumer for minority control of the Senate once Reid drops. Can't see him giving up that opportunity for taking control of broke and broken Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted July 27, 2016 at 01:21 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 01:21 AM If only we had a Democratic governor then this silly budget fiasco would have been settled in a non partisan fashion (as in no opposition remaining) and a bill passed with the appropriate revenue enhancements a long time ago.That is supposed to be purple right?! Absolutely I agree if we had a pawn to Madigan, ie: Dmocrat, we would have a shiiting budget passed already. Mike Madigan wants all the spending but none of the funding. I say no to any budget that is not balanced first and foremost. I also say no to any budget that would raise taxes at all, we already have the highest in the nation. We need to CUT spending period. $127 billion in debt counting state pensions. This debt excludes chicago and chicago pensions which are probably even with Illinois. We have got to CUT spending. We NEED austerity. I'm glad Rauner is playing hard ball with Crooked Madigan. No to any budget that isn't balanced. No to any budget that raises taxes. Period. CGS, it sounds purple but that is pretty close to what I overheard the boss of my local DMV say to her co workers while I was renewing my tags. Sorry to paint with a broad brush, but if you are part of the education system or otherwise employed by the state of il, natural common sense reason seems to fall out one ear while the empty space is being filled with the "where's mine?" juice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daved350 Posted July 27, 2016 at 02:15 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 02:15 AM If only we had a Democratic governor then this silly budget fiasco would have been settled in a non partisan fashion (as in no opposition remaining) and a bill passed with the appropriate revenue enhancements a long time ago.That is supposed to be purple right?! Absolutely I agree if we had a pawn to Madigan, ie: Dmocrat, we would have a shiiting budget passed already. Mike Madigan wants all the spending but none of the funding. I say no to any budget that is not balanced first and foremost. I also say no to any budget that would raise taxes at all, we already have the highest in the nation. We need to CUT spending period. $127 billion in debt counting state pensions. This debt excludes chicago and chicago pensions which are probably even with Illinois. We have got to CUT spending. We NEED austerity. I'm glad Rauner is playing hard ball with Crooked Madigan. No to any budget that isn't balanced. No to any budget that raises taxes. Period. CGS, it sounds purple but that is pretty close to what I overheard the boss of my local DMV say to her co workers while I was renewing my tags. Sorry to paint with a broad brush, but if you are part of the education system or otherwise employed by the state of il, natural common sense reason seems to fall out one ear while the empty space is being filled with the "where's mine?" juice. Obviously you are not sorry to make this asinine comment about all educators and state employee's having "where's mine?" because you freely posted it. I am not sure how many educators or state employee's you actually know, but I am guessing little to none. As a state employee, non-democrat, non-administrator, I and the people I work with are not looking for a something for nothing hand out. We show up, do our jobs, then go home. As average state of Illinois residence we are only being asked to be treated fairly at work, which is almost impossible with the political situation in this state. I wish the average citizen knew how hard it is for qualified employee's to get promotions over political bias. But, please feel free to make generalizations about people which you know little to nothing about. Seems on this forum it is perfectly OK to make generalizations about state employee's and how we are ruining this state when we all know this whole mess was created by elected officials on both sides, but everybody on here wants to jump up and down and scream and holler about how the other side make generalizations about us gun owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted July 27, 2016 at 03:21 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 03:21 AM My intent wasn't to offend. I often wonder what the point is of being offended. I'm a middle class, very rural, blue collar white Christian who makes his living with his hands. Plenty of cracks about my type these days and I still sleep all night.I worked for the state of Il as well as the Federal gubmint. Part of their unions too. My mother worked for the State for 27 years; plenty of our friends as well, so I know a little of what I speak.The example I gave wasn't to paint the woman as a numbskull, just someone who was immersed in a system for most of her adult life and became washed into a mindset. I told the story as I witnessed it so I'm not sure how repeating a truth upsets you. Illinois/government has had a broken system for multiple generations; you only have to look at neighboring states for a comparison. That is a fact.I don't claim to know them all.I chose to leave that system for a multitude of reasons; now I work for myself.I don't have a time clock. I show up and work until the job is done, then I go home. My pension, my retirement, my bennies, my "safety net" are all what I make them. I don't have a steward telling me how to vote; no one is giving my money to politicians who don't represent me.The politicians in Illinois have done nothing to help government employees other than create an atmosphere that creates waste and cronyism and a poor image.Rauner made a statement a few years ago that there were educators in Chicago that were illiterate. Instead of even looking in that direction, the media pushed him into an apology. Apparently that also offended educators.My broad brush wasn't meant to indict every single employee, but there is obviously a problem with the system, and just getting offended isn't going to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VannDaddy Posted July 27, 2016 at 03:32 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 03:32 AM Obviously you are not sorry to make this asinine comment about all educators and state employee's having "where's mine?" because you freely posted it. I am not sure how many educators or state employee's you actually know, but I am guessing little to none. As a state employee, non-democrat, non-administrator, I and the people I work with are not looking for a something for nothing hand out. We show up, do our jobs, then go home. As average state of Illinois residence we are only being asked to be treated fairly at work, which is almost impossible with the political situation in this state. I wish the average citizen knew how hard it is for qualified employee's to get promotions over political bias. But, please feel free to make generalizations about people which you know little to nothing about. Seems on this forum it is perfectly OK to make generalizations about state employee's and how we are ruining this state when we all know this whole mess was created by elected officials on both sides, but everybody on here wants to jump up and down and scream and holler about how the other side make generalizations about us gun owners.People used to get government jobs because of the benefits and pension in spite of lower salaries than the private sector. Lower pay but security and longevity. Now the average government job pays better than the average private sector job, has better benefits, and a pension which most private companies have moved away from entirely. You knew the animal you were lying down with when you took the job. What happens when Illinois can no longer pay its bills? All of those unfunded pensions, insurance for the retirees, generous saleries? Few people will feel sorry for the state workers who don't get what they were promised when the road to default will include higher taxes for the people who really keep this state afloat in spite of the government: the average tax payer. I know my high school theater teacher was payed in the $120k's back in the early 90's, where do you think educators' pay is now? Maybe not all of them, but come on?!? It's not serving the public when the public has no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScopeEye Posted July 27, 2016 at 03:54 AM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 03:54 AM Dick... Durbin SucksI Urge Dick to Choke His Self FDD He is a big part of the Failure of IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots & Tyrants Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:12 PM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:12 PM I can't think of anyone worse for the future of gun rights in Illinois than Durbin. Tom Dart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billzfx4 Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:29 PM Share Posted July 27, 2016 at 12:29 PM I can't think of anyone worse for the future of gun rights in Illinois than Durbin. Tom Dart He wants to mayor, what a dynamic duo that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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