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#31 soundguy

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 09:05 AM

I am also glad to see you back.

I've missed your wisdom!


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Posted 23 March 2019 - 10:40 PM

Skinny - Glad to see you're back posting.

Happy to be back. My other project (helping bust public corruption) is winding down so there will be quite a bit of information (and hopefully major arrests) going public. Soon. And having a special needs child is...exhausting.

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You show up again just when the Mueller probe shuts down. Hmmmm.

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 05:01 AM

You show up again just when the Mueller probe shuts down. Hmmmm.
Hahaha I didn't even consider that. What a coincidence as this is more of a "look at what's going on in your own backyard" type thing. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 24 March 2019 - 09:30 AM

Special child -- I hear ya -- Welcome to Holland Bro.



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Posted 25 March 2019 - 09:19 AM

 

Skinny - Glad to see you're back posting.

Happy to be back. My other project (helping bust public corruption) is winding down so there will be quite a bit of information (and hopefully major arrests) going public. Soon. And having a special needs child is...exhausting.

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Helping Busting Public Corruption is winding down?  How is that possible in this frigging State?  In my admittedly novice option, I'd guess it would take a couple of thousand of highly skilled seasoned Untouchable agents a few of lifetimes, and this would still be be an uphill battle around these parts.

 

Great to see you back!!!



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Posted 25 March 2019 - 10:45 PM

skinnyb!

 

Great to see you back!

 

Public corruption takedowns? Do tell!


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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 06:08 AM

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 07:11 AM

If I told you about it then I'd ruin the surprise

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 07:29 AM

Soon. I don't control release. Only a few people have the entire picture and I only contributed to the "project." For a hint as to what's going on, look into the feds snooping around Luis Gutierrez'a house. Let me try to send a PM containing a jpg file (discovered during investigation) that will...well, draw your own conclusions, but it made my stomach turn (and not many things get to me). I won't post it here because it's so repulsive. EDIT: Some reason I can't send PMs w/ Tapatalk Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 07:56 AM

Send my way too Skinny!!



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Posted 26 March 2019 - 09:48 AM

Soon. I don't control release. Only a few people have the entire picture and I only contributed to the "project." For a hint as to what's going on, look into the feds snooping around Luis Gutierrez'a house. Let me try to send a PM containing a jpg file (discovered during investigation) that will...well, draw your own conclusions, but it made my stomach turn (and not many things get to me). I won't post it here because it's so repulsive. EDIT: Some reason I can't send PMs w/ Tapatalk Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk

If it's really that repulsive then it should be made public so the citizenry knows what has been going on.


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Posted 26 March 2019 - 11:19 AM

OMG! Don't tell me its JB in a bikini dancing for Madigan to get his blessing to run for governor?

 

*shudder*


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Posted 26 March 2019 - 11:45 AM

Soon. I don't control release. Only a few people have the entire picture and I only contributed to the "project." For a hint as to what's going on, look into the feds snooping around Luis Gutierrez'a house. Let me try to send a PM containing a jpg file (discovered during investigation) that will...well, draw your own conclusions, but it made my stomach turn (and not many things get to me). I won't post it here because it's so repulsive. EDIT: Some reason I can't send PMs w/ Tapatalk Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk

 

I'd happily PM you an e-mail address to see what might be lurking in Guti-Gute's compost heap.

 

(I call him Guti-Gute because we's like that, me and ol' Guti-Gute.)


"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?

 

“One can never underestimate the idiocy of those determined to be offended by things that don't affect their real lives in the slightest.” —Me
 
“Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck.” —Samurai proverb
 
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” —Robert Heinlein
 
“I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist.” —Me
 
"It ain't braggin' if you done it." —Will Rogers

 

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 03:09 PM

OMG! Don't tell me its JB in a bikini dancing for Madigan to get his blessing to run for governor?

 

*shudder*

 

Oh God !!  My eyes, my eyes !!  :frantics:  :no:


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Posted 27 March 2019 - 03:14 PM

Let's get back on topic. I didn't mean to distract so much from the subject matter. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 27 March 2019 - 07:38 PM

OMG! Don't tell me its JB in a bikini dancing for Madigan to get his blessing to run for governor?

 

*shudder*

Damn you, I can't unimagine that scene now.


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 02:35 PM

The case is Soto v. Bushmaster.

Reuters via Yahoo!

The maker of the assault-style rifle used in the 2012 mass shooting at a Newton, Connecticut, school asked the U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday to overturn a court ruling that allowed families of the victims to sue the company over its marketing practices.
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The gun maker argued that the lawsuit should never have been allowed to proceed because a 2005 federal law, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, shields gun manufacturers in most cases from liability when the firearms they produce are used in crimes.
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The filing was long expected. Josh Koskoff, a lawyer for the family members, said Remington's filing made no new or unexpected arguments.
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A lower-court judge in 2016 dismissed the case. In a 4-3 decision, the Connecticut Supreme Court said while most of the lawsuit's claims could not proceed, Remington could still be sued over its marketing under Connecticut law.


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 05:43 PM

Does any manufacturer need to advertise the AR-15? I've only bought stripped lowers and built my rifles, but I've never seen an advertisement for them. Word of mouth via internet forums have been my go to source. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
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Posted 02 August 2019 - 08:33 AM

Does any manufacturer need to advertise the AR-15? I've only bought stripped lowers and built my rifles, but I've never seen an advertisement for them. Word of mouth via internet forums have been my go to source. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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Posted 02 August 2019 - 09:45 AM

Does any manufacturer need to advertise the AR-15? I've only bought stripped lowers and built my rifles, but I've never seen an advertisement for them. Word of mouth via internet forums have been my go to source. Sent from my SM-N960U using TapatalkDaniel Defense advertises regularly.

I said "need to advertise", not choose to advertise.

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Posted 02 August 2019 - 12:11 PM

DD doesn't NEED to advertise but it's protected speech and corporations are people and all of that. If they have a problem with that then they need to overturn Santa Clara v. Southern Pacific, 118 U.S. 394 (1886). First case that touches on corporations being protected under the 14A but several other decisions going back to post-Revolution Virginia. So that's an issue of stare decisis, not precedent. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 02 August 2019 - 07:44 PM

DD doesn't NEED to advertise but it's protected speech and corporations are people and all of that. If they have a problem with that then they need to overturn Santa Clara v. Southern Pacific, 118 U.S. 394 (1886). First case that touches on corporations being protected under the 14A but several other decisions going back to post-Revolution Virginia. So that's an issue of stare decisis, not precedent.

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Posted 04 August 2019 - 06:42 AM

I'd need a law degree first. Since that will never happen, well, shrug haha. Besides I don't have the patience or attention span to deal with administrative law cases. Mind-numbingly boring, which is probably how we ended up with Auer and Chevron deference in the first place. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 04 August 2019 - 10:10 AM

There's probably a work around, just like when the Surgeon General wasn't a doctor, but an Army nurse. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
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Posted 04 August 2019 - 03:02 PM

Meh they'd have a field day with me during confirmation. I'll keep counting beans. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
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Posted 04 August 2019 - 09:27 PM

Meh they'd have a field day with me during confirmation. I'll keep counting beans.

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Posted 13 September 2019 - 09:59 PM

Supreme Court Docket 19-168 as Remington v Soto

Remington petitioned for certiorari on May 17. Soto's response is due October 4.
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Posted 19 October 2019 - 12:23 AM

Soto's opposition to the cert petition.
Remington's reply to Soto's opposition.
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Posted 19 October 2019 - 06:15 AM

 

I was just thinking the same thing. So can automakers be sued for the damages a drunk drive does? This opens the doors to sue a company for misuse of any item. It's unbelievable they will do anything but blame the individual  


Environmentalist groups should be suing every automaker that isn't 100% electric.  For that matter even the electric ones are sending chemicals into the ozone during production.

"The commercials show...." is the ENTIRE case. That's it. Since when did an ad in a magazine for a rifle make a REASONABLE person get a rifle then use it to shoot up a school?

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Wouldn't the same logic apply to video games?



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Posted 25 October 2019 - 02:03 PM

The Supreme Court has scheduled the case for conference on November 8 (Friday). We may hear something November 11 (Monday) whether they've accepted it or not.
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