junglebob Posted July 18, 2019 at 01:37 AM Share Posted July 18, 2019 at 01:37 AM I came across and article about an Amish man, Andrew Hetzler, who went to federal court because he wasn't able to buy a rifle because he has no photo ID. It said in the article that Illinois Amish have been required to have a photo ID since 2011. Is this so? If it is why doesn't the state require they be fingerprinted. I don't know they they would object to that. Fingerprints are the most sure means of ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted July 18, 2019 at 02:20 AM Share Posted July 18, 2019 at 02:20 AM ...(a-20) Each applicant for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card shall furnish to the Department of State Police his or her photograph. An applicant who is 21 years of age or older seeking a religious exemption to the photograph requirement must furnish with the application an approved copy of United States Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service Form 4029. In lieu of a photograph, an applicant regardless of age seeking a religious exemption to the photograph requirement shall submit fingerprints on a form and manner prescribed by the Department with his or her application.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted July 18, 2019 at 02:53 AM Share Posted July 18, 2019 at 02:53 AM Why would you want him to be fingerprinted?WE dont have to use fingerprints to have a foid or a valid state ID! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted July 18, 2019 at 01:25 PM Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 at 01:25 PM Why would you want him to be fingerprinted? WE dont have to use fingerprints to have a foid or a valid state ID! I didn't know that the ISP accepted finger prints in place of photos to process Amish people's FOID cards. Since Amish have a religious opposition to the use of photos on the FOID card finger prints seemed like a good way to identify who the FOID card is linked with. I understand the former ISP head eliminated the option of no photo on the FOID card for the Amish the day he left office, is this so? How can the head of ISP just change the exemption to supplying photos written into the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted July 18, 2019 at 02:33 PM Share Posted July 18, 2019 at 02:33 PM If the FOID is not a "legal" form of identification recognized by the state, then why a photo or fingerprints?Should there be an additional requirement for finger prints to obtain a driver's license?(Probably not - since that would link too many politicians to bribes and hush money) Again - background checks are being done on the wrong people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted July 18, 2019 at 03:35 PM Share Posted July 18, 2019 at 03:35 PM So with more reading, how would anyone, and gun dealer etc actually verify the fingerprints?Photo and background run would be the simple way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted July 18, 2019 at 06:49 PM Share Posted July 18, 2019 at 06:49 PM ... Again - background checks are being done on the wrong people. I suppose it stops MS-13 gang members from claiming to be Amish to get a non-photo FOID, because the face tattoos would give it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted July 19, 2019 at 02:03 AM Share Posted July 19, 2019 at 02:03 AM Mike Tyson is in MS-13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted July 19, 2019 at 01:59 PM Share Posted July 19, 2019 at 01:59 PM The Amish must believe "the land of the free" should not be the land of jumping through government mandated hoops. I hope he wins in federal court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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