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#1 PewPewBangBang

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Posted 08 June 2020 - 12:35 PM

I was wondering about this after recently doing my CCL training and application.

 

Are there any existing cases in IL challenging the CCL laws as being discriminatory/unconstitutional by acting as a de facto ban on low-income individuals obtaining concealed carry?



#2 Molly B.

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Posted 08 June 2020 - 12:46 PM

Not that I'm aware of....
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Posted 08 June 2020 - 01:08 PM

There should be.  Maybe after some of the newb's that are recently becoming more "woke" to things happening around them, someone less fortunate will get the opportunity to press the state.  Of course I can't recall any tax in this state to ever go down.  Also can't recall any other fundamental right that we are charged to exercise.  


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Posted 08 June 2020 - 02:00 PM

Last year and this year, bills were filed to lower the cost iirc but they never went anywhere. Not sure they ever even got to a committee.
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Posted 08 June 2020 - 02:52 PM

At the chance of sounding like I support the state and their fees.
Someone who could not or was delayed getting a FOID and/or CCL due to the fees, would then need an expense vet lawyer to get valves and to file suit. The cost of getting the cards would be far less burdensome than the attorneys fees I would guess!

And looking forward don’t be much surprised if the fees go up after the impending mess currently sweeping across America. JMO.

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Posted 08 June 2020 - 02:55 PM

At the chance of sounding like I support the state and their fees.
Someone who could not or was delayed getting a FOID and/or CCL due to the fees, would then need an expense vet lawyer to get valves and to file suit. The cost of getting the cards would be far less burdensome than the attorneys fees I would guess!

And looking forward don’t be much surprised if the fees go up after the impending mess currently sweeping across America. JMO.

I humbly disagree the pricing to go up.  We gonna abolish the police then we won't need to worry about anyone asking for our permission slip.


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Posted 08 June 2020 - 03:32 PM

I dont see any law firm going pro bono for this or it getting a high priority among gun rights groups, but I suppose one never knows.

I know Willis wants to raise fees, but how can other but the most extreme reasonably vote to do so given the millions they have taken out of the funds...
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Posted 08 June 2020 - 04:17 PM

Reading back through my post let me start by saying how much I hate spell check!
As for the prices going up, they tried a few times and with the “crisis” in America who knows, but don’t be shocked!

As for not needing the permission slip anymore, it’s Illinois, they will be the last to get rid of the police.
And who knows who or what it will take to get say a national card if that every comes true. Not in our life time!

And the lawyer, yeah no bro bono there. It would be costly and a lengthy suit. Again not in our life time.
And the millions they have already stolen, I mean shifted to other areas they control, I mean manage, that’s not a talking point as others have pointed out many times that it IS in the law/statute that they may move those funds if they wish.

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Posted 08 June 2020 - 04:54 PM

Do you really think they would reduce the cost when they are sweeping the funds left and right?  :rofl:



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Posted 08 June 2020 - 07:03 PM

Since they're not spending the funds on anything firearms related (other than Anti activism) the CCL should be free, or cost the same as the FOID.



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Posted 08 June 2020 - 08:47 PM

Brought to you by the hypocrites who claim that having to show ID to vote constitutes an illegal poll tax!

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Posted 09 June 2020 - 08:50 AM

Every legal action I've read challenging gun control seems to go to obsequious lengths to be agreeable to paying whatever fees the government sees fit to charge. It drives me up the wall that no argument is even attempted that charging fees for fundamental civil rights might be wrong.


Illinois' FCCA is a prime example of the maxim that sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

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Posted 09 June 2020 - 10:37 AM

I dont see any law firm going pro bono for this or it getting a high priority among gun rights groups, but I suppose one never knows.

I know Willis wants to raise fees, but how can other but the most extreme reasonably vote to do so given the millions they have taken out of the funds...

I don’t know. It depends on if the SAF backs up their words with actions. They have mentioned that they want ANYONE who feels they are being denied their right to bare arms to send in reports. We’ll see if they follow through. 



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Posted 09 June 2020 - 12:24 PM

I was wondering about this after recently doing my CCL training and application.

 

Are there any existing cases in IL challenging the CCL laws as being discriminatory/unconstitutional by acting as a de facto ban on low-income individuals obtaining concealed carry?

 

I ranted about that day one. 

It costs a lot of money to hold elections, but people are allowed to vote for free because it's their constitutional right. 

There's simply no difference in the constitutional right vote then it is to own and carry a firearm.   


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