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#31 spanishjames

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Posted 08 July 2018 - 08:54 PM

I know I’m personally embarrassed, when they throw women, minorities, and LBGTQ out of pro-Trump rallies.

I'm gonna have to call you out and ask for some examples of this ever happening.

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Trump glanced at the person his supporters were singling out: A black man wearing a suit jacket and sunglasses.
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"We have a protester," Trump declared. The crowd booed.
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Somewhere in the crowd, Trump's security detail escorted a man out of the rally as the audience cheered.
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The person in question turned out to be C.J. Cary, a North Carolina resident, who claims to be a longtime Trump supporter.
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Cary says he is a Marine veteran and Trump campaign volunteer, and he claims to have been corresponding with Trump since 1992. That year he wrote Donald and Ivana Trump "an impassioned letter" upon hearing they were separating. To his surprise, he says, Donald Trump wrote back, and he has been an ardent supporter of his ever since.
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In August, Jake Anantha, a half-Indian student at Central Piedmont Community College, attended a Trump rally in Charlotte.
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Security officials told Anantha that he was a "known protester," and despite evidence to the contrary, insisted that he must leave.

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East Carolina University student Adedayo Adeniyi attended a political rally held by the Republican presidential hopeful on Wednesday night. The 20-year-old says that he went not to protest or demonstrate but because he was curious to see for himself what a Trump rally would be like.

Video footage captured by Mr Adeniyi appears to show police and Trump supporters approach him and demand that he leave.

 

 

 

All three of those examples were either actual instigators who were there to disrupt the rallies, or a case of mistaken identity.  It's disingenuous to claim minorities and women are regularly singled out and kicked out of Trump rallies.  

 

https://www.cnn.com/...ally/index.html

https://www.independ...r-a6924716.html

https://www.newsobse...e111038352.html


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Posted 08 July 2018 - 08:55 PM

 

 

I know Im personally embarrassed, when they throw women, minorities, and LBGTQ out of pro-Trump rallies.

I'm gonna have to call you out and ask for some examples of this ever happening.

[SARCASM]I know Im personally embarrassed, when they throw women, minorities, and LBGTQ out of pro-Trump rallies.[/SARCASM]

I seriously didnt think I needed to do that.

 

Sorry, it isn't easy to detect sarcasm in writing alone.  


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Posted 08 July 2018 - 10:07 PM

All three of those examples were either actual instigators who were there to disrupt the rallies, or a case of mistaken identity.  It's disingenuous to claim minorities and women are regularly singled out and kicked out of Trump rallies.  
 
https://www.cnn.com/...ally/index.html
https://www.independ...r-a6924716.html
https://www.newsobse...e111038352.html


If you bothered to read the articles you linked, you'd have learned that none of those three examples were either of those things. "You're black, so you must be a protester" is nowhere near "mistaken identity."

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 02:31 AM

All three of those examples were either actual instigators who were there to disrupt the rallies, or a case of mistaken identity.  It's disingenuous to claim minorities and women are regularly singled out and kicked out of Trump rallies.   https://www.cnn.com/...ally/index.htmlhttps://www.independ...r-a6924716.htmlhttps://www.newsobse...e111038352.html

If you bothered to read the articles you linked, you'd have learned that none of those three examples were either of those things. "You're black, so you must be a protester" is nowhere near "mistaken identity."

Please point out where it says someone was kicked out just for being black.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 05:08 AM

Recipients have nothing else to do but "protest" to demand more freebies and demand the "right" to tell those who provide for their "livings" how to live their lives. Our "government" apparently has nothing else to do but to indulge their idiocy and allow them to rule us by proxy. People need to wake the heck up while we still have a semblance of a country remaining.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 06:10 AM

Jacob Anantha was asked to leave by either a SS Agent, or Trumps personal security, which means former NYPD. Anyone can buy a Trump T-shirt. He was not asked to leave because of his skin color.

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 07:36 AM

Recipients have nothing else to do but "protest" to demand more freebies and demand the "right" to tell those who provide for their "livings" how to live their lives. Our "government" apparently has nothing else to do but to indulge their idiocy and allow them to rule us by proxy. People need to wake the heck up while we still have a semblance of a country remaining.


A lot more people are waking up than you might think. True centrists are being pushed away from the left because the left is doubling down on every insane stance they have on issues

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 09:33 AM

From Trib Article

 

"in a bid to counter the well-funded and organized youth gun-control lobby"

 

It is hard to match that with no funding, minimal organization and little communication.. 


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Posted 09 July 2018 - 09:37 AM

 

What we have to do is incorporate gun rights with other rights.  The anti-gun movement is made up of different interest groups, as evidenced by the signs they carry. 
They typically are for:
More jobs
Less violence
Anti-gun
Anti-Trump
Pro gay
Pro women's rights
Pro minority rights
Pro immigrant
Pro union
Pro teachers
Pro socialism
Pro anything anti-conservative, etc.
 
Of course they can gather a huge crowd, they're actually different groups who gather for every leftist cause under the sun.


Every attempt I make at extending our reach to immigrants (legal variety), minority, or LGBT communities ends up getting derailed by the anti-immigrant, anti-minority, anti-gay commentary commonly found in the generally conservative white male dominated pro-second community. We need to clean up our act before they'll feel welcome enough to stand beside us and fight, March, and vote with us. It doesn't mean one has to like them or agree with their lifestyle, but so long as our community keeps verbally slamming the door shut on accepting them as allies we can expect them to continue to remain distant and withdrawn. This isn't written as a chide or tongue lashing, it's an observation of us being our own worst enemy.

 

Sir, you just nailed it...

 

(This is coming from a middle aged, college educated, upper-middle income, former swing-voting, black male). 

 

With that said, we probably all have different reasons for owning weapons. I purchased my first pistol well over 20 years ago, just to go plinking.  As I got older, it sat in my safe for over a decade, untouched.  While I was clearly fine with gun ownership (2A)....I just wasn't a big "gun guy".    

 

To draw in a different crowd in terms of gun rights, I think there needs to be a big shift in tactics, optics, and perception.  But, that means there needs to be a core shift as well.   



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Posted 09 July 2018 - 10:05 AM

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Exactly. We need to focus on how the 2nd amendment is for all Americans. Every person, regardless of race, sex, religion or sexual preference can exercise their rights. Adapt, don’t dig your heels in

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 02:43 PM

I'm gonna have to call you out and ask for some examples of this ever happening.

Google is your friend. 

October 29, 2016...Trump glanced at the person his supporters were singling out: A black man wearing a suit jacket and sunglasses...."We have a protester," Trump declared. The crowd booed....Somewhere in the crowd, Trump's security detail escorted a man out of the rally as the audience cheered....The person in question turned out to be C.J. Cary, a North Carolina resident, who claims to be a longtime Trump supporter....Cary says he is a Marine veteran and Trump campaign volunteer, and he claims to have been corresponding with Trump since 1992. That year he wrote Donald and Ivana Trump "an impassioned letter" upon hearing they were separating. To his surprise, he says, Donald Trump wrote back, and he has been an ardent supporter of his ever since....In August, Jake Anantha, a half-Indian student at Central Piedmont Community College, attended a Trump rally in Charlotte....Security officials told Anantha that he was a "known protester," and despite evidence to the contrary, insisted that he must leave.

2016-03-11...East Carolina University student Adedayo Adeniyi attended a political rally held by the Republican presidential hopeful on Wednesday night. The 20-year-old says that he went not to protest or demonstrate but because he was curious to see for himself what a Trump rally would be like.Video footage captured by Mr Adeniyi appears to show police and Trump supporters approach him and demand that he leave.
There were lots of other hits.



And the lamestream media never forgets to mention race, to make it an issue.... I work with and get along with people of all demographics. I'm a staunch 2A supporter. Trump IS my president. I've never understood why both right and left leaning individuals can't just shake hands and get along. I asked a very simple question about the recent 'peace' march by Father Pfleger's, and in return was basically called a racist pr..., and asked if I was one of the shooters creating the violence in Chicago, primarily because I own a modern sporting rifle. I guess I just don't get where the hatred comes from, and why everyone is so quick to judge.....
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Posted 09 July 2018 - 06:14 PM

During the national assault weapons ban push after Newtown, there were thousands of protesters at state capitals throughout the country. There was an immediate perceived threat and gun owners responded in massive numbers. But generally you have to organize such events and provide transportation alternatives and make sure that working people can get the day off or save a weekend day to attend. Gun rights don't have organized "resistance" lists and members of sister organizations sitting around to be called out and bused in. Also the weekends before and after the July 4th holiday when it is in the middle of a week is a terrible time to try to organize a gun rights rally as most people have long standing commitments that time of year or vacations and trips planned. In any case don't hold a rally or protest unless you have done the grunt work to ensure you will have a good turn out.  



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Posted 09 July 2018 - 06:15 PM

During the national assault weapons ban push after Newtown, there were thousands of protesters at state capitals throughout the country. There was an immediate perceived threat and gun owners responded in massive numbers. But generally you have to organize such events and provide transportation alternatives and make sure that working people can get the day off or save a weekend day to attend. Gun rights don't have organized "resistance" lists and members of sister organizations sitting around to be called out and bused in. Also the weekends before and after the July 4th holiday when it is in the middle of a week is a terrible time to try to organize a gun rights rally as most people have long standing commitments that time of year or vacations and trips planned. In any case don't hold a rally or protest unless you have done the grunt work to ensure you will have a good turn out.


Most gun owners have lives, unlike anti-gun protesters who do nothing other than make that single thing their entire existence in life

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:51 AM

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This should be an appropriate response:

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:57 AM

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This should be an appropriate response:
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Posted 10 July 2018 - 11:15 AM

During the national assault weapons ban push after Newtown, there were thousands of protesters at state capitals throughout the country. There was an immediate perceived threat and gun owners responded in massive numbers. But generally you have to organize such events and provide transportation alternatives and make sure that working people can get the day off or save a weekend day to attend. Gun rights don't have organized "resistance" lists and members of sister organizations sitting around to be called out and bused in. Also the weekends before and after the July 4th holiday when it is in the middle of a week is a terrible time to try to organize a gun rights rally as most people have long standing commitments that time of year or vacations and trips planned. In any case don't hold a rally or protest unless you have done the grunt work to ensure you will have a good turn out.  

And that is why blumberg pays for bus's and pays his coordinators. That is how they get so many people., give them free stuff and they will go. If he stopped, i can almost guarantee the anti movement would die almost over night.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 12:55 PM

The appropriate response to her should be a picture of  IGOLD in 2018, with the numbers " 4-25-2018" emblazoned across it.
 
Why 2018? It was our strongest showing since 2014, and it's AFTER the brats skipped school following the pied pipers of Bloomberg..
 
My duties kept me from getting a good shot of IGOLD 2018's crowd of 2000 marching.
 
Otherwise stop validating that harpy by talking about her or posting / QUOTING her tweet.
 
edit:  here we go!!!
 
http://cdn0.thetruth...18/07/igold.jpg

 

igold.jpg

 

 
 
AND I have visually confirmed that it  IS  2018 because 2018 is the first time that the "WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER" signs were out in public.

 

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https://foxillinois....tion-04-25-2018


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:03 PM

The appropriate response to her should be a picture of  IGOLD in 2018, with the numbers " 4-25-2018" emblazoned across it.
 
My duties kept me from getting a good shot of IGOLD 2018's crowd of 2000 marching.
 
Otherwise stop validating that harpy by talking about her or posting / QUOTING her tweet.


Not validating her at all. She’s a liar all around and as soon as you challenge her on anything, she blocks you. She’s a coward

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:47 PM

 

Recipients have nothing else to do but "protest" to demand more freebies and demand the "right" to tell those who provide for their "livings" how to live their lives. Our "government" apparently has nothing else to do but to indulge their idiocy and allow them to rule us by proxy. People need to wake the heck up while we still have a semblance of a country remaining.


A lot more people are waking up than you might think. True centrists are being pushed away from the left because the left is doubling down on every insane stance they have on issues

 

The "Left" now is calling even Bernie not left, but center

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=0H7S9X3kNcs


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 01:56 PM

Recipients have nothing else to do but "protest" to demand more freebies and demand the "right" to tell those who provide for their "livings" how to live their lives. Our "government" apparently has nothing else to do but to indulge their idiocy and allow them to rule us by proxy. People need to wake the heck up while we still have a semblance of a country remaining.


A lot more people are waking up than you might think. True centrists are being pushed away from the left because the left is doubling down on every insane stance they have on issues
The "Left" now is calling even Bernie not left, but center
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=0H7S9X3kNcs

Hopefully they keep it up.

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 05:59 PM

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 06:33 PM

Recipients have nothing else to do but "protest" to demand more freebies and demand the "right" to tell those who provide for their "livings" how to live their lives. Our "government" apparently has nothing else to do but to indulge their idiocy and allow them to rule us by proxy. People need to wake the heck up while we still have a semblance of a country remaining.


A lot more people are waking up than you might think. True centrists are being pushed away from the left because the left is doubling down on every insane stance they have on issues
The "Left" now is calling even Bernie not left, but center
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=0H7S9X3kNcs
I didn't realize that the Bolsheviks had a "center."

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:07 AM

^^^
Exactly. We need to focus on how the 2nd amendment is for all Americans. Every person, regardless of race, sex, religion or sexual preference can exercise their rights. Adapt, don’t dig your heels in

 

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