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#31 soundguy

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 04:12 PM

POTUS just caved... will sign EO to keep families together.
I can hardly wait for national CC.

He did not cave.  He got them all whipped up, and now he's the solution.  It's just a different cast of characters.  Can you spell "Little Rocket Man?"     Trump knows exactly what he's doing.  And who might be fooled.........

If he was a naturally compassionate man, he would not have waited so long to “fix” it. He lied, again. And he fixed it with an EO just like MSM and everyone else said he could while placing blame on the Democrats in Congress.

I am rather certain he does not know what he’s doing and continues to fly by the seat of his pants and changes his mind only when pressured by Melonia and Ivanka. This was a completely avoidable screw up. He may never learn. He will run out of employees who will front for his lies.
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 04:34 PM

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 05:05 PM

By signing the EO, Trump just shoved the lefts political pawn for the November elections UP THEIR A??  Trump does not fly by the seat of his pants like you antis claim, he wanted congress to do their job and fix it, he only signed it after knowing that wasn't going to happen.



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Posted 20 June 2018 - 07:38 PM

It amazes me that it was ok for the Obama administration to separate the kids from the adults but since Trump's administration was doing it  everyone on the left  was up in arms about it.  :ermm:



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Posted 20 June 2018 - 08:37 PM

It amazes me that it was ok for the Obama administration to separate the kids from the adults but since Trump's administration was doing it  everyone on the left  was up in arms about it.  :ermm:

Yeah, that is damn amazing alright! 


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Posted 20 June 2018 - 08:50 PM

POTUS just caved... will sign EO to keep families together.
I can hardly wait for national CC.

He did not cave.  He got them all whipped up, and now he's the solution.  It's just a different cast of characters.  Can you spell "Little Rocket Man?"     Trump knows exactly what he's doing.  And who might be fooled.........

If he was a naturally compassionate man, he would not have waited so long to “fix” it. He lied, again. And he fixed it with an EO just like MSM and everyone else said he could while placing blame on the Democrats in Congress.
I am rather certain he does not know what he’s doing and continues to fly by the seat of his pants and changes his mind only when pressured by Melonia and Ivanka. This was a completely avoidable screw up. He may never learn. He will run out of employees who will front for his lies.

Curious. HOW exactly was this “a completely avoidable screw up.”
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 08:51 PM

By signing the EO, Trump just shoved the lefts political pawn for the November elections UP THEIR A??  Trump does not fly by the seat of his pants like you antis claim, he wanted congress to do their job and fix it, he only signed it after knowing that wasn't going to happen.

 

Trump doesn't even know what Congress does!


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Posted 20 June 2018 - 09:08 PM

 

If he was a naturally compassionate man, he would not have waited so long to “fix” it. He lied, again. And he fixed it with an EO just like MSM and everyone else said he could while placing blame on the Democrats in Congress.
I am rather certain he does not know what he’s doing and continues to fly by the seat of his pants and changes his mind only when pressured by Melonia and Ivanka. This was a completely avoidable screw up. He may never learn. He will run out of employees who will front for his lies.

Curious. HOW exactly was this “a completely avoidable screw up.”

 

 

He implemented (ordered) a zero tolerance border plan with no plan...

He's not running a piddly little real estate branding company any more, where he gets to do anything he wants and can bully or sue his way out of trouble... or file for bankruptcy. He's completely out of his wheelhouse. He was once king of Trumpville. Now he's a civil servant with zero practical life experience for the job.

 

He caved because it was politically expeditious to do so (and maybe his two best gals were rolling their eyes at him again). And he's still lying about it.


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Posted 20 June 2018 - 09:37 PM

 

 

If he was a naturally compassionate man, he would not have waited so long to “fix” it. He lied, again. And he fixed it with an EO just like MSM and everyone else said he could while placing blame on the Democrats in Congress.
I am rather certain he does not know what he’s doing and continues to fly by the seat of his pants and changes his mind only when pressured by Melonia and Ivanka. This was a completely avoidable screw up. He may never learn. He will run out of employees who will front for his lies.

Curious. HOW exactly was this “a completely avoidable screw up.”

 

 

He implemented (ordered) a zero tolerance border plan with no plan...

He's not running a piddly little real estate branding company any more, where he gets to do anything he wants and can bully or sue his way out of trouble... or file for bankruptcy. He's completely out of his wheelhouse. He was once king of Trumpville. Now he's a civil servant with zero practical life experience for the job.

 

He caved because it was politically expeditious to do so (and maybe his two best gals were rolling their eyes at him again). And he's still lying about it.

 

 

At least Hillary is not in charge or it would be open borders to everyone.


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Posted 20 June 2018 - 09:44 PM

If he was a naturally compassionate man, he would not have waited so long to “fix” it. He lied, again. And he fixed it with an EO just like MSM and everyone else said he could while placing blame on the Democrats in Congress.
I am rather certain he does not know what he’s doing and continues to fly by the seat of his pants and changes his mind only when pressured by Melonia and Ivanka. This was a completely avoidable screw up. He may never learn. He will run out of employees who will front for his lies.


Curious. HOW exactly was this “a completely avoidable screw up.”
 
He implemented (ordered) a zero tolerance border plan with no plan...
He's not running a piddly little real estate branding company any more, where he gets to do anything he wants and can bully or sue his way out of trouble... or file for bankruptcy. He's completely out of his wheelhouse. He was once king of Trumpville. Now he's a civil servant with zero practical life experience for the job.
 
He caved because it was politically expeditious to do so (and maybe his two best gals were rolling their eyes at him again). And he's still lying about it.

Children were being separated from the adults they ILLEGALLY entered our Country in many years BEFORE Trump became your President !!! NOT Trumps screw up !!

BUILD the WALL and STOP anyone from entering our Country in the first place !!

If the wall doesn’t stop them ... mine fields !!!
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Posted 20 June 2018 - 10:38 PM

And just like that, the nuclear family unit is now sacrosanct.  Never mind if a significant percent of kids were trafficked to ease entry for the adults.

 

What happened to the recent statist big-government solutions to child welfare such as "it takes a village to raise a child"? Or, "children do not belong to their parents - the state knows best how to raise/educate them"?

 

What's a little chain link fence when you're organizing children based on how soon they will vote Democrat?

 

Rounding up children "for their protection" in indoctrination centers seems to fit the progressive left model like a glove.


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Posted 20 June 2018 - 11:08 PM

 

By signing the EO, Trump just shoved the lefts political pawn for the November elections UP THEIR A??  Trump does not fly by the seat of his pants like you antis claim, he wanted congress to do their job and fix it, he only signed it after knowing that wasn't going to happen.

 

Trump doesn't even know what Congress does!

 

 

 

NEWS FLASH:  Congress doesn't know what Congress does, and Congress doesn't even know what Congress doesn't know.

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 07:49 AM

And just like that, the nuclear family unit is now sacrosanct.  Never mind if a significant percent of kids were trafficked to ease entry for the adults.

 

What happened to the recent statist big-government solutions to child welfare such as "it takes a village to raise a child"? Or, "children do not belong to their parents - the state knows best how to raise/educate them"?

 

 

The cronies want their cheap labor, and if it takes abusing children as political pawns to do this, the political types will be glad to go along with this. 

 

Even if this means we have more human trafficking.     Cronies must always be enriched, this is government policy. 

https://www.fairus.o...man-trafficking


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 08:15 AM

What ?

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:15 AM

 

By signing the EO, Trump just shoved the lefts political pawn for the November elections UP THEIR A??  Trump does not fly by the seat of his pants like you antis claim, he wanted congress to do their job and fix it, he only signed it after knowing that wasn't going to happen.

 

Trump doesn't even know what Congress does!

 

With the approval rating that Congress continues to hold in mind, they don't even know what they are supposed to do.


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:27 PM

STOP TRYING TO MAKE TRUMP CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR IMMIGRANT WAIFS HAPPEN GRETCHEN

 

ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN    :no:

 

 


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:40 PM

TFW CNN screws over a Democrat on accident LOL



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Posted 21 June 2018 - 02:16 PM

that leftocrat could not give a yes or no answer.  The answer was OBVIOUSLY no because she dared not to go against her lord and savior,  Barackstar. 


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:05 PM

I know where this is going. Stage is set.......




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Posted 21 June 2018 - 09:56 PM

For decades, the left has put all its faith in big government statist solutions. Now they blame their inevitable disappointment on "literally Hitler".


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 08:17 AM

 

 

If he was a naturally compassionate man, he would not have waited so long to “fix” it. He lied, again. And he fixed it with an EO just like MSM and everyone else said he could while placing blame on the Democrats in Congress.
I am rather certain he does not know what he’s doing and continues to fly by the seat of his pants and changes his mind only when pressured by Melonia and Ivanka. This was a completely avoidable screw up. He may never learn. He will run out of employees who will front for his lies.

Curious. HOW exactly was this “a completely avoidable screw up.”

 

 

He implemented (ordered) a zero tolerance border plan with no plan...

He's not running a piddly little real estate branding company any more, where he gets to do anything he wants and can bully or sue his way out of trouble... or file for bankruptcy. He's completely out of his wheelhouse. He was once king of Trumpville. Now he's a civil servant with zero practical life experience for the job.

 

He caved because it was politically expeditious to do so (and maybe his two best gals were rolling their eyes at him again). And he's still lying about it.

 

Sorry, but that assumes that it is a problem to begin with.  Sorry, but I have plenty of compassion, but I really don't give a damn that these children were separated and put into very nice centers while their parents fates were decided.  And, THAT is for the children that actually came with there parents.  For the others being trafficked or used, separating them into these facilities is a GOOD outcome compared to what their fates would have been.  Sorry, but I don't forget that their parents were either trying to illegally enter our country, OR had already sold their children off to cartels and/or traffickers.

 

Where is all the outrage for children taken into family services, when their CITIZEN parents are arrested.  Thousands happen every day.  Where is the concern for those children?

 

And NOONE has apparently actually read the executive order in this discussion.  If you had, you would see that it is littered with the qualifier "as allowed by law".  Because the courts have already deemed it illegal to incarcerate the children with there parents UNDER THE CURRENT LAWS IN EFFECT.  The EO as written actually doesn't really do a damn thing because of those court rulings,  ERGO, the only real fix, is new law, i,.e. PASSED BY CONGRESS.  Sorry but THESE are the facts.  The MSM and Dems were NOT right, he can not legally 'fix it'. 


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 08:30 AM

This whole fake outrage by the Dems has been going on for years. I can see that their emotional (not factual) pleas are working on some....

Fact is, they are trying to do what they always do: pinball ofntheir mistakes/loss of opportunity on trump

Was gun control passed in 2012 after Sandy Hook? No, now it’s trump’s fault

Was the immigration issue fixed in 8 years of Obama? No, and it’s now Trump’s fault


They do not want these problems solved, as it would take away their campaign points.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 09:17 AM

This whole fake outrage by the Dems has been going on for years. I can see that their emotional (not factual) pleas are working on some....

Fact is, they are trying to do what they always do: pinball ofntheir mistakes/loss of opportunity on trump

Was gun control passed in 2012 after Sandy Hook? No, now it’s trump’s fault

Was the immigration issue fixed in 8 years of Obama? No, and it’s now Trump’s fault


They do not want these problems solved, as it would take away their campaign points.

Oh, but it IS drawing attention away from the mounting morass of DOJ/FBI corruption being exposed.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 09:46 AM

This may get more interesting if they start running DNA tests on these “Children/Parents.”

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:07 AM

He implemented (ordered) a zero tolerance border plan with no plan...

The question is who controlled the flow of information to these immigrants?

They were told to mass immigrate to America in a big group to overwhelm border resources. They were told rather then run it or coyotee it across the border to instead turn themselves in as refugees. They were told that they had a greater chance of achieving refugee status with children (whether theirs or not). But somehow they were not told that they would be separated from their children (so the repeated threat had no effect).

This has been another attempt at normalizing illegal immigration by manufacturing a crisis. All with no talk or reform on loosening restrictions for vetted legal immigration.

You could either argue Trump is gullible to this trickery due to inexperience, or you could argue his business interests (along with several other GOP superpac contributors) stand to benefit from the same normalization of illegals while publicly scolding illegal immigration.

This has been a neocon scam for a long time (up to their meddling south of the border and elsewhere in the world). The Dem's only joined in recently when they became neolibs and the carrot of illegal immigrant voting was dangled in front of them. Because they are losing elections that became a pretty big carrot.

Personally I think Trump is more savvy then many people give him credit for. He has to balance global business interests against the nationalist/populist platform he won the election on.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:23 AM

 

POTUS just caved... will sign EO to keep families together.

I can hardly wait for national CC.

He did not cave.  He got them all whipped up, and now he's the solution.  It's just a different cast of characters.  Can you spell "Little Rocket Man?"     Trump knows exactly what he's doing.  And who might be fooled.........

 

How? He didn't get the wall funding he wanted in exchange for reversing the separation policy. On top of that, he wanted congress to fix the problem and was head strong on continuing the course. It wasn't until the GOP and quite frankly, not just liberal news media but conservative media as well started to jump on him. GOP members are also calling for Stephen Miller to be fired for his role in this "debacle" as they called it. He pretty much caved to the pressure and the compromise immigration bill went down in flames due to his mixed signals to the house and senate. I know as a supporter you want to put a good face on this but all the lipstick in the word can't pretty up this pig. It's not good. Not for him and not for the party either...and so close to the midterms. We just cannot let the Dems have any leverage or any type of majority in any house.



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:24 AM

CHANGE the Law !

You get caught crossing the border Illegally you (and the kids with you) are IMMEDIATELY turned around, kicked in the butt, and told to stay the “*%^# “ Out !! WHY court date in future??

You (and your kids) get caught in our Country interior being here illegally - you IMMEDIATELY get deported and told to stay the “*%^#” Out !!
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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:27 AM

It amazes me that it was ok for the Obama administration to separate the kids from the adults but since Trump's administration was doing it  everyone on the left  was up in arms about it.  :ermm:

Not a fan but he didn't. He held unaccompanied minors who didn't have adult supervision. But still, this is in no way a good look for the President. You may want to see it that way but that is not how the majority see it. Matter of fact, many on the right are saying he caved to the pressure.



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 10:28 AM

CHANGE the Law !

You get caught crossing the border Illegally you (and the kids with you) are IMMEDIATELY turned around, kicked in the butt, and told to stay the “*%^# “ Out !! WHY court date in future??

You (and your kids) get caught in our Country interior being here illegally - you IMMEDIATELY get deported and told to stay the “*%^#” Out !!

This I can agree with. If they are not citizens they why get rights to an American justice system? turn them right around back from whence they came. If they want to come back, do it the legal way or seek asylum by proper channels.






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