jkdkaliman101 Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:23 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:23 PM File/pic attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear226 Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:29 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:29 PM When they started talking about this it was only .015 and now .021. We had already guessed this was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:32 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:32 PM When they started talking about this it was only .015 and now .021. We had already guessed this was coming.next year "Wait people arn't driving enough we need to raise it to .031" and next year "Wait people arn't driving enough we need to raise it to .041" etc etc while all the money is going into a pocket and not where it says it would go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanook Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:43 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:43 PM This one resulted in a flat out lie by JB during the campaign. He said outright he wasn't going to do this. And here we go. Lips are moving means lies in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkdkaliman101 Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:44 PM Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:44 PM If I'm reading the bill right, it only applies to electric and/or hybrid cars? Those vehicles that do not get taxed at the pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:51 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:51 PM It occurs to me that this mileage tax may be intended to target those that drive electric cars since the state has no other way to collect taxes on electric cars other than a mileage tax. Based on the wording it looks like someone would have to sign up and be approved to pay this tax instead of fuel tax. This is potentially great for someone that keeps their tank full but is otherwise a shut in since they would only pay for their limited travel. Also the pilot program would have to engineer a way to provide the tax exemption at the pump or limit it to non-fuel vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:56 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:56 PM If all the cars on the road were electric it would then be impossible to collect motor fuel taxes and a per mileage tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:59 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 04:59 PM Fat ******* said he wouldn't do this. So this started as .015 and changed already to .021. It starts with only EV cars and changes will come quick to get all of us. I gotta GTFOOI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted February 15, 2019 at 05:04 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 05:04 PM JB better be careful not to disincentivize electric cars too much since it may result in a resurgence in the popularity of conventional vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soylentgreen Posted February 15, 2019 at 05:09 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 05:09 PM It occurs to me that this mileage tax may be intended to target those that drive electric cars since the state has no other way to collect taxes on electric cars other than a mileage tax. They could simply charge more to register and renew license plates on electric cars. It'd be a lot easier than trying to make sure people are reporting their milage accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted February 15, 2019 at 05:25 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 05:25 PM How are they going to address out of state mileage? Can’t tax the mileage that was driven out of state. If I take a 2000 mile road trip out of state for vacation, that’s not gonna fly, then there are the visits to in-laws out of the state. Then there are the trips out of state to buy ammo...I guess they could setup check points at every bit of road on our borders and record your mileage and then give you PAPERS, to allow you in and out of the peoples republic of Illicrapistania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod Posted February 15, 2019 at 05:31 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 05:31 PM This one resulted in a flat out lie by JB during the campaign. He said outright he wasn't going to do this. And here we go. Lips are moving means lies in action. Have you really ever believed anything that comes out of a politician's mouth ? Even more so with a democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted February 15, 2019 at 06:40 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 06:40 PM I knew it was a lie when that Al Capone wanna be said he was not considering it. What about those who live here but work out of state? A lot of folks around here work over in Kentucky and I would say 99% buy their gas over there. That is what they are after- that gas tax money they ain't getting. SO are we going to be doubled taxed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkdkaliman101 Posted February 15, 2019 at 07:36 PM Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 07:36 PM It occurs to me that this mileage tax may be intended to target those that drive electric cars since the state has no other way to collect taxes on electric cars other than a mileage tax. They could simply charge more to register and renew license plates on electric cars. It'd be a lot easier than trying to make sure people are reporting their milage accurately. pfftt, their going to do that in ADDITION to the milage tax only it will be for all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted February 15, 2019 at 08:36 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 08:36 PM If all the cars on the road were electric it would then be impossible to collect motor fuel taxes and a per mileage tax.And the condition of illinois roads would still bite the big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanook Posted February 15, 2019 at 09:21 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 09:21 PM This one resulted in a flat out lie by JB during the campaign. He said outright he wasn't going to do this. And here we go. Lips are moving means lies in action. Have you really ever believed anything that comes out of a politician's mouth ? Even more so with a democrat. No, I was just pointing the lies out this time. I'd never trust a politician, much like actors they lie for a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayhawk Posted February 15, 2019 at 09:36 PM Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 09:36 PM It's a test program (ha!) as they are looking for 5000 cars. It is only for miles driven in IL. Say 10000 miles at 20 mpg is 500 Gallons, IL fuel tax is about $.20/gal, Fed is about $.18/gal, and, outside of cook county, sales tax is about $.16/gal at approximately $2.00/gal. Tot tax = $.54/gal or about $.027/mile. Assuming the test program eliminates all taxes on gasoline, their $.021 per mile is OK for now. I think the purpose is to collect road usage data in order to ultimately tax hybrid/electric vehicles for their little or no fuel usage at a rate similar to fuel burners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperAtmosphere Posted February 16, 2019 at 12:44 AM Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 12:44 AM Can’t see them waiving federal gas tax or sales tax. And how are they going to handle waiving the state gas tax? Get some sort of rebate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted February 16, 2019 at 12:46 AM Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 12:46 AM $$$ more money for cronies $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:39 AM Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:39 AM How are they going to address out of state mileage? Can’t tax the mileage that was driven out of state. Sure they can. Watch them. "All miles driven by vehicles registered in Illinois". See? not hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted February 16, 2019 at 06:18 AM Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 06:18 AM If all the cars on the road were electric it would then be impossible to collect motor fuel taxes and a per mileage tax. And you can bet if that happens they will just add a 'vehicle tax' percentage to everyone's electric bills, maybe even mandate a separate meter for your vehicle charging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted February 16, 2019 at 03:25 PM Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 03:25 PM You know they are NOT going to do away with any tax at all, just add more to the pile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted February 16, 2019 at 04:30 PM Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 04:30 PM ... and all the money generated from the Illinois Lottery will go towards our schools and education indoctrination... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoresident Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:50 PM Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 05:50 PM It occurs to me that this mileage tax may be intended to target those that drive electric cars since the state has no other way to collect taxes on electric cars other than a mileage tax. Based on the wording it looks like someone would have to sign up and be approved to pay this tax instead of fuel tax. This is potentially great for someone that keeps their tank full but is otherwise a shut in since they would only pay for their limited travel. Also the pilot program would have to engineer a way to provide the tax exemption at the pump or limit it to non-fuel vehicles.Exactly, it is essentially a tax break for drivers of less fuel efficient vehicles to put in place an infrastructure to go after the drivers of more fuel efficient vehicles. JB talking out of both sides of his mouth when he said Rauner was lying that he had planned to do a per mileage tax scheme. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/bruce-rauner-j-b-pritzker-illinois-mileage-tax-gps-plan-fact-check-politifact-false/ Link to the billhttp://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=2864&GAID=15&GA=101&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=119167&SessionID=108 I'm guessing the tax savings will also require you to use some state issued fleet like credit card? It wasn't the fuel taxes that tipped the yellow vests into rioting. It was the government policy that made them buy one type of vehicle to pay lower taxes, then changing the policy to make sure those vehicles paid more taxes. Car manufacturers have been forced into making more fuel efficient vehicles with higher price tags for small affordable cars, but they advertise the fuel cost savings. Now the government will just recover any savings in taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted February 16, 2019 at 06:37 PM Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 06:37 PM Gotta pay those gov employee $100,000++ pensions somehow!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted February 16, 2019 at 07:44 PM Share Posted February 16, 2019 at 07:44 PM Gotta pay those gov employee cronies $100,000++ pensions somehow!! FIFY. Regular gov employees don't get anything like that. But cronies who double, triple, quadruple dip, do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp Posted February 17, 2019 at 12:51 AM Share Posted February 17, 2019 at 12:51 AM Hi, If electric vehicles are the problem, get the revenue from their owners via higher fees for annual plate renewal, not by implementing some costly, Byzantine, inequitable structure. FWIW. Rich Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RECarry Posted February 17, 2019 at 01:50 AM Share Posted February 17, 2019 at 01:50 AM More taxpayers will be researching the cost per mile of Allied Van Lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerus Posted February 17, 2019 at 04:09 PM Share Posted February 17, 2019 at 04:09 PM Exactly, it is essentially a tax break for drivers of less fuel efficient vehicles to put in place an infrastructure to go after the drivers of more fuel efficient vehicles.Not according to this article I read. Unless your car gets less than 9 miles per gallon you’ll pay more with this per mile tax. http://www.wsiltv.com/story/39974653/illinois-lawmaker-introduces-mileage-tax-pilot-program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted February 17, 2019 at 04:46 PM Share Posted February 17, 2019 at 04:46 PM I would like to volunteer all the House and Senate members cars, their spouses cars, and their children's cars for the program if there are any slots open, I would like to fill those with the cars of local government, starting from the top down. Stupid speelchick. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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