Xwing Posted August 31, 2011 at 04:25 PM Share Posted August 31, 2011 at 04:25 PM Sounds like the city is making you jump through a huge number of hoops. Congrats on the win! Good luck on recovering your firearm. I suppose that they have to give it back to you (since you were found not guilty), and it's just trying to register it. Could you legally transfer it to an FFL and then back to you, in order to register it? Another PITA, but at least you'd finally be able to have it back in your home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted August 31, 2011 at 04:32 PM Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 at 04:32 PM Sounds like the city is making you jump through a huge number of hoops. Congrats on the win! Good luck on recovering your firearm. I suppose that they have to give it back to you (since you were found not guilty), and it's just trying to register it. Could you legally transfer it to an FFL and then back to you, in order to register it? Another PITA, but at least you'd finally be able to have it back in your home...that is the last resource I want to go through but yes that would work, I just think doing this is like giving in to the citys bullying I would rather take the beating and see were this leads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted August 31, 2011 at 06:18 PM Share Posted August 31, 2011 at 06:18 PM Sounds like the city is making you jump through a huge number of hoops. Congrats on the win! Good luck on recovering your firearm. I suppose that they have to give it back to you (since you were found not guilty), and it's just trying to register it. Could you legally transfer it to an FFL and then back to you, in order to register it? Another PITA, but at least you'd finally be able to have it back in your home...that is the last resource I want to go through but yes that would work, I just think doing this is like giving in to the citys bullying I would rather take the beating and see were this leads. I don't see why the transferee needs to be an FFL. There should be no reason why you can't transfer it to a private individual. File the disposition form stating you transferred it to whomever, then have him/her transfer it back to you and file a registration. However, I don't see why you have to jump through that hoop. When they denied our pistols, before McDonald, we were able to register them under the new system after McDonald. For my SKS rifles, which were initially denied, I had to do nothing once we won the hearing. They issued the registrations automatically. It might help to understand how the system used to work and how it works today. When you filed a registration under the old system and it was registered, you were issued a certificate with a registration number like "R######L". The "R" means registered and the "L" means long gun ("S" is short gun). If you were denied the registration they still had a number on file like "D#####L" and that firearm could no longer be registered by anyone ever again. Under the new system, they still use that numbering system, but denials can be turned into registrations. Guns are no longer permanently unregisterable. This is why when we registered our pistols the second time they were issued an "R" number identical to the previous "D" number that was filed for them way back when they were initially denied. Likewise this occurred for my SKS rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted September 16, 2011 at 09:39 PM Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 at 09:39 PM FYI case was up today in criminal court the city said they are not going to appeal and not filing a motion to reconsider, and our motion to return fire arm was continued but the city wanted a briefing schedule hearing date is set for 11/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted September 16, 2011 at 09:55 PM Share Posted September 16, 2011 at 09:55 PM FYI case was up today in criminal court the city said they are not going to appeal and not filing a motion to reconsider...I love that part of your post. Hope things work out as well with the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ming Posted September 16, 2011 at 10:50 PM Share Posted September 16, 2011 at 10:50 PM FYI case was up today in criminal court the city said they are not going to appeal and not filing a motion to reconsider...I love that part of your post. Hope things work out as well with the gun. Ditto on what mauserme said. Maybe this thing is finally coming to an end for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarandFan Posted September 16, 2011 at 11:02 PM Share Posted September 16, 2011 at 11:02 PM The city knows that prosecuting will be a loser for them, in the end. I think they pretty much know the score on these gun rights issues (but are reticent to admit as much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted September 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM Share Posted September 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM The city knows that prosecuting will be a loser for them, in the end. I think they pretty much know the score on these gun rights issues (but are reticent to admit as much). They also know that they cause you to spend much more trying to get your gun back than simply buying a new gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:25 AM Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:25 AM FYI case was up today in criminal court the city said they are not going to appeal and not filing a motion to reconsider...I love that part of your post. Hope things work out as well with the gun. Ditto on what mauserme said. Maybe this thing is finally coming to an end for you.I hope maybe by xmas ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:29 AM Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:29 AM The city knows that prosecuting will be a loser for them, in the end. I think they pretty much know the score on these gun rights issues (but are reticent to admit as much). They also know that they cause you to spend much more trying to get your gun back than simply buying a new gun. That would be true if i did not have attorney friends but luckily for me it has cost me less than the Judge ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:39 AM Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:39 AM The city knows that prosecuting will be a loser for them, in the end. I think they pretty much know the score on these gun rights issues (but are reticent to admit as much).the city attorney sounded very confident that they were gonna appeal the day it was dismissed ! lol jerks ! I was reading the hearing transcript Judge Clarence Burch sounded upset at the city attorney that was priceless ! "I Will not limit my ruling to only when he's on his way to training. My ruling applies to the statutory scheme in terms of this training within the city of Chicago, that is it, the motion to dismiss is granted " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted September 17, 2011 at 01:04 AM Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 at 01:04 AM Happy Constitution Day ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma Posted September 17, 2011 at 01:34 AM Share Posted September 17, 2011 at 01:34 AM dismissed pursuant to Ezell v. chicago? What part of Ezell allowed them to dismiss it?Wait if its dismiessed then its irrelevant, ok my head is spinning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma Posted September 17, 2011 at 02:10 AM Share Posted September 17, 2011 at 02:10 AM What I hate is they show your frikin address and let everyone know you dont have a gun. comon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted September 17, 2011 at 02:21 AM Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 at 02:21 AM What I hate is they show your frikin address and let everyone know you dont have a gun. comon!firearm is last resort if u notice when they shoot the front of my house i have surveillance cameras, ADT, and three over protective mans best friends ! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted November 2, 2011 at 11:42 PM Author Share Posted November 2, 2011 at 11:42 PM I won in administrative hearing city motion to revoke my firearm registration is denied.jesusduenasorder.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted November 3, 2011 at 01:34 AM Share Posted November 3, 2011 at 01:34 AM I won in administrative hearing city motion to revoke my firearm registration is denied. Glad to hear it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vezpa Posted November 3, 2011 at 05:23 AM Share Posted November 3, 2011 at 05:23 AM I'd have to have a real good look at the gun when I got it back. I'd have to make sure there was no damage, scratches , chips or other caused by neglect while out of your possession. Hopefully a reputable gun shop would be able to substantiate any of these damages and charge accordingly for proper repair, returning your firearm to its original pre-seized condition. I guess your lawyer could then submit the bill to the city as icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted November 15, 2011 at 04:45 PM Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 at 04:45 PM my motion to recover was denied ! goin to contact NRA see if they can help me out now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted November 15, 2011 at 05:25 PM Share Posted November 15, 2011 at 05:25 PM who denied the motion? do you have a copy of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted November 15, 2011 at 05:28 PM Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 at 05:28 PM who denied the motion? do you have a copy of it?Judge Jim Ryan this was a different judge I will get a copy I do not have it on me. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted November 15, 2011 at 05:32 PM Share Posted November 15, 2011 at 05:32 PM was this in court or an admin hearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted November 15, 2011 at 05:37 PM Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 at 05:37 PM was this in court or an admin hearing?court 555 Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted November 16, 2011 at 01:28 AM Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 at 01:28 AM more annoying news just received in the mail Summons in administrative review they want a review of the AJL Plesha Decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted February 10, 2012 at 02:03 AM Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 at 02:03 AM fyi, so this thing is still going Filed a motion to dismiss motion for sanctions and a motion to release firearm. the motion to dismiss-the administrative complaint for review they screwed up it says they have it down as CFP that was in question which is not the case just the firearm registration, Motion for sanctions- Il supreme court 138(you cant show ss# on any paper work filed)they screwed up again city filed their answer with 8 documents showing my social this its a new law that just came in January no case law on this so City is screwed on this atty said she didnt know about it I thought they were attorneys? city is ordered to withdraw the answer and court to return it to the city. Motion to release fire arm- city is ordered to preserve firearm. all motions are continued to 6-5-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted February 10, 2012 at 02:17 AM Share Posted February 10, 2012 at 02:17 AM fyi, so this thing is still going Filed a motion to dismiss motion for sanctions and a motion to release firearm. the motion to dismiss-the administrative complaint for review they screwed up it says they have it down as CFP that was in question which is not the case just the firearm registration, Motion for sanctions- Il supreme court 138(you cant show ss# on any paper work filed)they screwed up again city filed their answer with 8 documents showing my social this its a new law that just came in January no case law on this so City is screwed on this atty said she didnt know about it I thought they were attorneys? city is ordered to withdraw the answer and court to return it to the city. Motion to release fire arm- city is ordered to preserve firearm. all motions are continued to 6-5-12. What a crock. They're screwing up the paperwork just to jack you around!! Piece of crap city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajduenas1 Posted March 9, 2012 at 07:57 PM Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 at 07:57 PM So I guess its over City keeps my gun but yet I have it registered What the hey!!! , this really is a shame I am not really upset about the firearm just that they can do this, This a slap in the face for anyone in the armed forces that is fighting for our freedom and all of our Constitutional rights. this is the most corrupt messed up state in the USA ! O'well ! Anyways thanks to everyone I will be around Fighting for our right, BTW I am Hispanic, Latin or Mexican Heritage or whatever u wanna call it and would like to get Hispanic Citizen more aware that they are being denied their constitutional rights in Illinois was wondering if anyone has ideas on how to start this.(since there are a few of us here and rarely lifetime NRA members like me ! lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted March 12, 2012 at 03:24 PM Share Posted March 12, 2012 at 03:24 PM So I guess its over City keeps my gun but yet I have it registered What the hey!!! , this really is a shame I am not really upset about the firearm just that they can do this, This a slap in the face for anyone in the armed forces that is fighting for our freedom and all of our Constitutional rights. this is the most corrupt messed up state in the USA ! O'well ! Anyways thanks to everyone I will be around Fighting for our right, BTW I am Hispanic, Latin or Mexican Heritage or whatever u wanna call it and would like to get Hispanic Citizen more aware that they are being denied their constitutional rights in Illinois was wondering if anyone has ideas on how to start this.(since there are a few of us here and rarely lifetime NRA members like me ! lol) That is a ridiculous result. Sorry to hear it. Your idea is a good one. We have a few Chicago-area hispanic members here. You might want to approach Hector Concepcion, who is running against Luiz for Congress as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted March 12, 2012 at 04:16 PM Share Posted March 12, 2012 at 04:16 PM I wonder what would happen if you shot a home invader with a legally registered gun inside your home. Would they take your gun in that case too, and would you ever see it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC Posted March 13, 2012 at 01:21 AM Share Posted March 13, 2012 at 01:21 AM Even if RTC passes, it's likely that this is the tact that Chicago will take when handling incidents. Legal or not, registered or not, they will keep your firearm.The bad part is if they invoke asset forfeiture laws, they may get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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