cedclay Posted February 27, 2019 at 04:44 PM Share Posted February 27, 2019 at 04:44 PM Hi Molly, I am trying to get information on the Circuit court appeal process. I was convicted of a felony as a teenager that is classified as a forcible felony (Burglary to an automobile) over 30 years ago. I've read that you were eligible for relief after 20 years since I haven't had any trouble since then. I applied and was denied, do to the conviction, and was told I need to appeal to the Circuit court for relief but I cant find the process. The couple of attorneys I talked to said that I need to try to get it expunged (don't know if that's possible) or apply for a pardon from the governor. I don't think they have any experience with this type of case. Can you give me some direction on this process and reference to an attorney that has experience in successfully helping restore gun rights? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukemason Posted February 27, 2019 at 08:48 PM Share Posted February 27, 2019 at 08:48 PM The FOID act explains the process at a really high level, print it off for the lawyers you are talking to. I think your best bet is to find an attorney in your county that is established and has good relationships with the prosecutors and judges. You might have to call around until you find the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted February 28, 2019 at 04:18 AM Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 at 04:18 AM Hi Molly, I am trying to get information on the Circuit court appeal process. I was convicted of a felony as a teenager that is classified as a forcible felony (Burglary to an automobile) over 30 years ago. I've read that you were eligible for relief after 20 years since I haven't had any trouble since then. I applied and was denied, do to the conviction, and was told I need to appeal to the Circuit court for relief but I cant find the process. The couple of attorneys I talked to said that I need to try to get it expunged (don't know if that's possible) or apply for a pardon from the governor. I don't think they have any experience with this type of case. Can you give me some direction on this process and reference to an attorney that has experience in successfully helping restore gun rights? Thanks Depending on your age at the time, maybe you can get it expunged. The law is getting more and more friendly to expunging underage felonies. However, if that is not possible I would suggest you do apply for the pardon as a procedural matter. The AG's office has been known to motion for dismiss in court if the petitioner (you) has not exhausted all other avenues first. Having exhausted that, the process is to petition the court for relief of the firearm prohibitor. It's good to include 5-6 personal references from family, friends, community leaders/pastors and a good statement on your own behalf about who you are now, how long you've had a clean record, etc. I think there are sample documents that others have used that might be helpful to you. Not an attorney, just sharing what other members have shared here and with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedclay Posted March 1, 2019 at 10:37 PM Share Posted March 1, 2019 at 10:37 PM Hi Molly, I am trying to get information on the Circuit court appeal process. I was convicted of a felony as a teenager that is classified as a forcible felony (Burglary to an automobile) over 30 years ago. I've read that you were eligible for relief after 20 years since I haven't had any trouble since then. I applied and was denied, do to the conviction, and was told I need to appeal to the Circuit court for relief but I cant find the process. The couple of attorneys I talked to said that I need to try to get it expunged (don't know if that's possible) or apply for a pardon from the governor. I don't think they have any experience with this type of case. Can you give me some direction on this process and reference to an attorney that has experience in successfully helping restore gun rights? Thanks Depending on your age at the time, maybe you can get it expunged. The law is getting more and more friendly to expunging underage felonies. However, if that is not possible I would suggest you do apply for the pardon as a procedural matter. The AG's office has been known to motion for dismiss in court if the petitioner (you) has not exhausted all other avenues first. Having exhausted that, the process is to petition the court for relief of the firearm prohibitor. It's good to include 5-6 personal references from family, friends, community leaders/pastors and a good statement on your own behalf about who you are now, how long you've had a clean record, etc. I think there are sample documents that others have used that might be helpful to you. Not an attorney, just sharing what other members have shared here and with me. Ok, thank you for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwell210 Posted March 2, 2019 at 04:40 AM Share Posted March 2, 2019 at 04:40 AM (edited) Were you on trial for a Felony? Did you ever serve time at CPD? If answer No to both questions.Send all info in one letter with proof of what your saying.Civilians pick up once a day at Springfield (Group) You can not even get in the doors in SF thats why it say's when you apply DON'T COME IN PERSON. As far as a getting a CC anyone for no reason can be denied.I see it all over the net take a 16 hour course to get your CC and that's not true.Instructors for the IL CC are certified through IL State Police.Prior Military You only need a 8 hour class half a day. I'm not a Police officer I just know a few people at SF and their very fair good people.I did not know a group of Civilians pick up once a day and go over all the apps.I thought the Police did that. If you were on trial took a PLE on a Felony, you should be denied a FOID. Edited March 2, 2019 at 12:13 PM by Molly B. Corrected to 8 hrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Teddybear Posted March 22, 2019 at 04:58 AM Share Posted March 22, 2019 at 04:58 AM I guess nobody actually reads my posts. I stated to PM me if you want the appeal process through your local court as stated in ILCS 65/10 as I have already done it and gotten my FOID as well as my Concealed Carry Permit. PM your name and phone number. Molly B. can verify it as she has seen my court filed paperwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical operator1 Posted March 22, 2019 at 05:21 AM Share Posted March 22, 2019 at 05:21 AM I am actually in the process of suing the State Police in my county court (Kankakee,IL). I hired a lawyer and we will see whats what. He says I have a great chance of getting it. Only thing that makes me nervous is the Federal prohibitor. But according to my lawyer if you can get relief from the state then the Federal prohibitor wouldn't apply. I had to plunk down a chunk of change, but for me its worth it to get my right back...he also said that a CCL could be in the future after we deal with this.....GOD I HOPE SO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iride55 Posted March 30, 2019 at 03:12 AM Share Posted March 30, 2019 at 03:12 AM hey molly, about 2 years ago I applied for a foid card when i had a bogus OP against me out of Arizona. the Arizona judge said I could posses firearms and I thought that went for Illinois too (oops) so I answered all no's and was denied. I'm, currently appealing it because I got a great job in security and want to move up. I have all the forms dated and signed and I'm waiting on one more letter of recommendation from family and I'm getting it all notarized and mailing it off. I have no criminal record do you think the process will go smoothly? how long on average does it take for non-criminal offense? p.s. you guys all rock for making this sub, happy to see 2A being supported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted March 30, 2019 at 03:55 AM Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 at 03:55 AM Do you have certified documents showing the OP was dismissed or expired? You will want to submit that along with your appeal. Could take a few months to a year . . . or more sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical operator1 Posted April 10, 2019 at 02:02 AM Share Posted April 10, 2019 at 02:02 AM Not wanting to open a can of worms or air dirty laundry here like others....But I DID contact you , we talked for about an hour, I texted you another day to see when it was OK to call again, never got a response. And I deleted the info you sent with your friends name on it. I am grateful that you tried to help though...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlandes1109 Posted May 30, 2019 at 01:50 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 01:50 PM (edited) Hey Everyone, Have an issue I am trying to figure out. I got arrested in December on a marijuana charge for possessing between 30 and 100 grams. It was classified as a class B misdemeanor and was dismissed with 20 hours of community service. During this time I was told by the arresting officer that it would not affect my CCL application or my FOID card. However, in Feb. I got a notification saying that my FOID was revoked because I was "addicted to a controlled substance" and "addicted to narcotics". On the form it said I told officers I was addicted to drugs even though all I said was I smoke on a regular basis. No other drugs were found other than marijuana and I wasn't even convicted, put on probation/suspension, or anything. I completed my hours and got the case dismissed. I want to re apply but am slightly confused on a few things. 1. It says I have to be clean for a year following a marijuana conviction, however I wasn't put on probation and don't have to take any drug tests. Does this mean I still need to provide proof of a clean drug screen? If so how can I do that without having to take any drug tests? 2. Can I re-apply right away since my case was technically dismissed and I was not convicted? Also, the laws are changing and marijuana is about to be legal recreationally. Is this something I can also use in my favor? I have the court document saying my case was dismissed and everything. Please, any help would be great. Thanks. Edited May 30, 2019 at 01:53 PM by Tlandes1109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted May 30, 2019 at 08:34 PM Share Posted May 30, 2019 at 08:34 PM (edited) That's because you were arrested less than a year ago. Any drug offense committed will end up with you classed as a "drug addict" for a year and check that box prohibiting ownership. What can you do? Nothing right now. Wait until December. Dismissed or not, still charged and convicted. I had a DUI "dismissed" after successfully completing court supervision. But I plead guilty and have therefore been convicted of DUI. Only in cases of pardon or expungement is the record wiped and the conviction erased. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Edited May 30, 2019 at 08:37 PM by skinnyb82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybee42 Posted June 2, 2019 at 12:14 AM Share Posted June 2, 2019 at 12:14 AM Is a LCPC someone with sufficient credentials to do the exam (in patient over 5 years ago)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted June 2, 2019 at 01:14 PM Share Posted June 2, 2019 at 01:14 PM (edited) Short answer is yes, an LCPC is good for a relief eval if they qualify under the IL MHDD (or whatever the eff acronym) code. Here's the citation of statute (MHDD statute adopted by FOID Act for definitions) to support it. You need a, "qualified examiner" which could be a psychiatrist, psychologist, LCPC, LCSW, psychiatric RN.... See 405 ILCS/5-122©. Relevant section of FOID Card Act in re relief cited below that. (405 ILCS 5/1-122) (from Ch. 91 1/2, par. 1-122) Sec. 1-122. Qualified examiner. "Qualified examiner" means a person who is: (a) a Clinical social worker as defined in this Act, ( a registered nurse with a master's degree in psychiatric nursing who has 3 years of clinical training and experience in the evaluation and treatment of mental illness which has been acquired subsequent to any training and experience which constituted a part of the degree program, © a licensed clinical professional counselor with a master's or doctoral degree in counseling or psychology or a similar master's or doctorate program from a regionally accredited institution who has at least 3 years of supervised post-master's clinical professional counseling experience that includes the provision of mental health services for the evaluation, treatment, and prevention of mental and emotional disorders, or (d) a licensed marriage and family therapist with a master's or doctoral degree in marriage and family therapy from a regionally accredited educational institution or a similar master's program or from a program accredited by either the Commission on Accreditation for Marriage and Family Therapy or the Commission on Accreditation for Counseling Related Educational Programs, who has at least 3 years of supervised post-master's experience as a marriage and family therapist that includes the provision of mental health services for the evaluation, treatment, and prevention of mental and emotional disorders. A social worker who is a qualified examiner shall be a licensed clinical social worker under the Clinical Social Work and Social Work Practice Act. (Source: P.A. 96-1357, eff. 1-1-11; 97-333, eff. 8-12-11.) (u) A person who has had his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card revoked or denied under subsection (e) of this Section or item (iv) of paragraph (2) of subsection (a) of Section 4 of this Act because he or she was a patient in a mental health facility as provided in subsection (e) of this Section, shall not be permitted to obtain a Firearm Owner's Identification Card, after the 5-year period has lapsed, unless he or she has received a mental health evaluation by a physician, clinical psychologist, or qualified examiner as those terms are defined in the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code, and has received a certification that he or she is not a clear and present danger to himself, herself, or others. The physician, clinical psychologist, or qualified examiner making the certification and his or her employer shall not be held criminally, civilly, or professionally liable for making or not making the certification required under this subsection, except for willful or wanton misconduct. This subsection does not apply to a person whose firearm possession rights have been restored through administrative or judicial action under Section 10 or 11 of this Act. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Edited June 2, 2019 at 01:16 PM by skinnyb82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacIke Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:11 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:11 PM Hello, about 5 months ago my father and i had an argument over the phone and to get back at me him and his wife filed an Emergency Order of Protection against me. I got them both vacated. But i did have to sign an injuctive order because i couldnt afford a lawyer to defend me. I filed a FOID card Appeal to isp 4 months ago and still no response. Every lawyer ive talk to about this won't even give me the time and day even with money in hand. Please help me, i don't think its right that one person can take away someone's 2nd amendment rights just because he got his feeling hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacIke Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:14 PM Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 07:14 PM Also he filed both of them against me in a place that is almost 2 hours away from where i live. Which made it very difficult to even show up to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted June 10, 2019 at 08:04 PM Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 at 08:04 PM Hello, about 5 months ago my father and i had an argument over the phone and to get back at me him and his wife filed an Emergency Order of Protection against me. I got them both vacated. But i did have to sign an injuctive order because i couldnt afford a lawyer to defend me. I filed a FOID card Appeal to isp 4 months ago and still no response. Every lawyer ive talk to about this won't even give me the time and day even with money in hand. Please help me, i don't think its right that one person can take away someone's 2nd amendment rights just because he got his feeling hurt. When you filed your appeal, did you submit:1. Request for Appeal form2. Request for Waiver of Investigation form3. A certified copy (signed and stamped by the court) of the vacated order? Unfortunately, the ISP is taking a year or longer to resolve these types of appeals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penumbra1811 Posted June 11, 2019 at 11:58 AM Share Posted June 11, 2019 at 11:58 AM Molly B i sent you a private message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Teddybear Posted June 12, 2019 at 04:19 AM Share Posted June 12, 2019 at 04:19 AM 430 ILCS 65/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golgo13 Posted June 13, 2019 at 03:54 AM Share Posted June 13, 2019 at 03:54 AM Hello, In 2016 I was arrested and charged with class 2 felony regarding cannabis. During my case my FOID was revoked for felony indictment of up to 1 year in jail. My CCL application was also denied at the same time.The felony charges were amended to class B misdemeanor possession as I plead guilty to those charges in order to receive court supervision. I completed my 18 month supervision successfully, by 06/18 I was discharged. I filed for an appeal right away along with certified court disposition and all the other forms to the director of ISP. It has been about a year since the appeal and my FOID is still revoked with no response from ISP. I reached out to Molly B and Rep Allen Skillicorn to inquire to ISP to no success. What are my chances of my FOID being reinstated? Technically my FOID was revoked for a felony indictment and not cannabis related. I am aware that possessing a firearm is prohibited federally because of cannabis. Reading over 430 ILCS 65/10 it states that I can appeal for relief if it was not a class 2 felony of the cannabis act. I also read from some places that I have to wait two years after my case in order for ISP to act on my appeal. How true is that info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted June 13, 2019 at 09:18 AM Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 at 09:18 AM Chances of getting your FOID restored and getting a CCL are very good. It's just a matter of the time it takes for ISP to process your appeal, which seems to be taking longer and longer as the appeals pile up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted June 13, 2019 at 12:56 PM Share Posted June 13, 2019 at 12:56 PM (edited) Since a new CCL review board has not been appointed with JBP, do we know if the hold over board with terms that have technically expired are meeting as often?We have not seen any FOIA numbers lately. Do we know if the number of cases started increasing again creating a larger hearing review backlog instead of cutting in to it?The overall process for app/renewal processing and hearing process seems to continue to deteriorate. Edited June 13, 2019 at 12:58 PM by InterestedBystander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted June 13, 2019 at 01:41 PM Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 at 01:41 PM I am hearing the original board remains and they meet monthly resolve all of the cases before them, unless they need more info. In those cases, the reviews are still being done in a timely manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B@ndito Posted July 11, 2019 at 01:00 AM Share Posted July 11, 2019 at 01:00 AM I have followed the appeal process as outlined in the OP for an FOID card denial. I have submitted all the correct forms, along with an affidavit from the court verifying I have no arrest records to support the denial. I expect not to have any problems with the appeal process.I simply wanted to know if there is any way I can verify that they received the appeal and that they are processing it? Also, should I anticipate hearing an answer within 120 days? Thank youRich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted July 12, 2019 at 04:53 PM Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 at 04:53 PM I have followed the appeal process as outlined in the OP for an FOID card denial. I have submitted all the correct forms, along with an affidavit from the court verifying I have no arrest records to support the denial. I expect not to have any problems with the appeal process.I simply wanted to know if there is any way I can verify that they received the appeal and that they are processing it? Also, should I anticipate hearing an answer within 120 days? Thank youRich Did you happen to have submitted the appeal using a mail service that provides a signed receipt of delivery? you would have that reasonable assurance that they received it. It would be great if you heard something in 120 days but that has not been the case so far. It's more like a year to two years. . . unfortunately but one can hope they will move faster than that. Sending private message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don7070 Posted July 12, 2019 at 06:26 PM Share Posted July 12, 2019 at 06:26 PM It will be 3 years in September since I sent in all the paper work for my appeal. I have confirmation that it was delivered. Haven't heard a darn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical operator1 Posted July 16, 2019 at 10:18 PM Share Posted July 16, 2019 at 10:18 PM Wonder if getting a certificate of good conduct and a relief from disabilities from the court that the conviction came from could look good or help in aiding in getting peoples FOID cards when it came to the courts..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Teddybear Posted July 20, 2019 at 08:35 PM Share Posted July 20, 2019 at 08:35 PM The appeal form that the ISP sends you when you get denied at the very bottom of the form it says if you've been convicted of certain offenses you must file a petition in the circuit court 430 ILCS 65/10. Read it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago_Vic81 Posted August 15, 2019 at 08:03 PM Share Posted August 15, 2019 at 08:03 PM I have waited a year for a decision on my non-mental FOID appeal due to a felony DUI indictment that was dismissed. Multiple attempts to call / email the ISP have been fruitless. Has anyone else experienced a complete blackout and no action on their appeal? --Victor Good evening, I'm a new member and this is my first post here. At the risk of being repetitious following other's posts, I'm reaching out to get an idea for the appeal timeline. I was convicted of two misdemeanor DUIs in 2012/15. One of the cases involved a dismissed felony DUI during the pendency of which my FOID was revoked. I have no other prohibitors and completed a long period of probation earlier this year. A non-mental health appeal was filed earlier this spring (approximately August) with all supporting documentation and a fairly well written legal brief (I'm an attorney, although don't practice anything related to licensing law(s)). Wondering if being rated high-risk in my second DUI conviction would act as a bar/hurdle and what I can expect from the ISP. Thanks for any replies! --Victor Vic, Did you submit certified copies showing successful completion of probation? Did you provide proof of an IL driver's license or state issued ID? I don't think the high risk DUI will keep you from getting the FOID reinstated but it could serve as a 5 year prohibitor for a concealed carry license. Molly, Thanks for the response. I submitted certified copies of all dispositions and a copy of my State ID. Hopefully it's just a matter of time. --Victor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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