templar223 Posted August 4, 2010 at 07:35 PM Share Posted August 4, 2010 at 07:35 PM My personal belief is that, based on the lenghty delay in going public with their findings, the cops have realized that one of their own screwed the pooch and either fired accidently or made a bad decision and then it became a case of monkey see, monkey do. All the cops at the scene would have wanted "bragging rights" in future war stories amd may have fired even though they didn't the suspect doing anything wrong. At some point in the future, the Department will come out in public and admit that they made a mistake but right now all they can think about is CYA and hoping the law suit doesn't result in wholesale terminations. But I would bet that is what will happened, some day. Bud, This lengthy delay stinks to high heaven. Worse than a couple of bass left in the back seat for a few days this week. I agree with your comments, analysis and prediction 100%. Seems the family's got some big law firm working on this: Goodman Law Group Seeks Costco Video of West Point Grad Allegedly Slain by Vegas PoliceAugust 03, 2010 08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time LAS VEGAS--(EON: Enhanced Online News)--Goodman Law Group reports that Erik Scott was shot by police outside a busy Summerlin, Nevada Costco store July 10. Many questions surround the shooting of Scott, who was carrying a licensed concealed weapon in a holster when he was surprised by officers as he exited the building with his girlfriend and other customers. Five of the seven shots that felled him were fired into his back. “It’s been three weeks. They should release the video and 911 calls.” Ross Goodman, attorney for the family of Erik Scott is questioning the official sequence of events. Erik was a graduate of the US Military Academy at West Point and had an MBA from Duke University. The case claims that if an educated, responsible, militarily-trained individual with a concealed weapons permit did not understand the instructions of the police, then any average citizen is at great risk of getting killed by police in a similar situation. Much information regarding the incident has been withheld pending a coroner's inquest that was originally scheduled for September 3. The Clark County Coroner said the inquest was indefinitely postponed at the request of the District Attorney's office, which said additional witness statements are being gathered and surveillance videos are being reviewed by an out-of-state forensic laboratory. Testimony to be presented is expected to last two days, then a jury will determine whether the officers' actions were excusable, justifiable or criminal. The district attorney won't release the recordings of 911 calls or surveillance videos until the inquest, and has not set a new date for the hearing. Until then, the family must rely on the statements of eyewitnesses, while continuing to request the release of the video data. Dozens of citizens have inundated the Costco Facebook page, and billboards in Las Vegas demand the video be released. An unauthorized transcript raises questions about what police were told by 911 callers. Police claim Erik Scott pointed his gun at them outside the store's entrance after 911 callers reported him acting erratically and damaging merchandise. There are reports from witnesses that dispute each of those statements. Several witnesses said Scott appeared to be surprised and possibly confused by conflicting instructions from officers. "We know there were four cameras outside of Costco that would've captured the shooting. We know that there was a camera within Costco, on the aisle, which would've covered allegations that Mr. Scott was acting erratically," said Goodman. "All they have to do is provide video and the tapes." Erik Scott’s father, Bill Scott, 63, of Colorado Springs, is a journalist, author and former Air Force captain. He is calling for greater police accountability and for reform of Clark County's coroner inquest process. He said officer-involved shootings should be reviewed by third parties. “It’s been three weeks. They should release the video and 911 calls.” There are several news reports regarding the incident available online by searching “Erik Scott Costco Shooting.” For more information, please visit: www.erikbscott.comContacts for Goodman Law GroupLisa Mayo, 702-292-9976 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted August 4, 2010 at 08:03 PM Share Posted August 4, 2010 at 08:03 PM "Five of the seven shots that felled him were fired into his back." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted August 5, 2010 at 12:21 PM Share Posted August 5, 2010 at 12:21 PM "We know there were four cameras outside of Costco that would've captured the shooting. We know that there was a camera within Costco, on the aisle, which would've covered allegations that Mr. Scott was acting erratically," said Goodman. "All they have to do is provide video and the tapes." UH oh. It sounds like there is a small problem..... Surveillance footage of the shooting might not exist, (Sheriff Doug Gillespie) said. The Costco's video hard drives have been sent to experts in California for review, but "as it stands right now, we don't have any (footage)," he said. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyre400 Posted August 5, 2010 at 07:15 PM Share Posted August 5, 2010 at 07:15 PM Another interesting article about the "metro": http://www.cnbc.com/id/38564290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermit315 Posted August 5, 2010 at 10:37 PM Share Posted August 5, 2010 at 10:37 PM this whole thing stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted August 6, 2010 at 01:57 AM Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 at 01:57 AM Yeah! It seems as if the officials in Las Vegas actually believe the commericial that says, "What happens in Vegas -- Stays in Vegas." I think they killed the wrong guy this time. Eric's dad seems like a guy that can and will get things done. He might want to move out of Vegas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyre400 Posted August 11, 2010 at 03:36 PM Share Posted August 11, 2010 at 03:36 PM New video, on the vigil held at costco for Erik. The status is pretty much the same- video hard drives sent out because of "glitch", and 911 tapes not being released until further notice. http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12960081 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted August 23, 2010 at 09:49 PM Share Posted August 23, 2010 at 09:49 PM "We know there were four cameras outside of Costco that would've captured the shooting. We know that there was a camera within Costco, on the aisle, which would've covered allegations that Mr. Scott was acting erratically," said Goodman. "All they have to do is provide video and the tapes." UH oh. It sounds like there is a small problem..... Surveillance footage of the shooting might not exist, (Sheriff Doug Gillespie) said. The Costco's video hard drives have been sent to experts in California for review, but "as it stands right now, we don't have any (footage)," he said. LinkErik Scott's father has set up a blog at erikbscott.com/blog He has some interesting things posted there. Such as the tapes being sent to LA California to a computer forensics lab when they have someone on the Metro force who is a computer forensics expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecker Posted September 14, 2010 at 07:09 PM Share Posted September 14, 2010 at 07:09 PM Ok, posting this because this issue can't fade away. Here's the recent article posted in the Las Vegas Review Journal Darker Details Come to Light The police have leaked documents to the press trying to preemptively slander the character of Erik Scott before the Coroner's inquest coming up this month. The video evidence still has not been release, the 911 tapes have not been released. Something sure smells fishy. I post this article to remind us what will happen when and if you need to use a weapon when carrying. The camera will turn on you and your background examined with a fine tooth comb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted September 14, 2010 at 07:21 PM Share Posted September 14, 2010 at 07:21 PM Just let me have the tapes of the incident and the 911 call and I can make up my mind. No need for the history prior to the incident factual or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyre400 Posted September 14, 2010 at 08:54 PM Share Posted September 14, 2010 at 08:54 PM Agreed... At last I had heard, the Scott family's attorney was still waiting on the released evidence for the inquest. It sounded like metro/coroner were trying to obstruct that... Erik's dad already indicated that they would probably try to slander Scott - but none of that even matters in this case... The video and the eye witness accounts are going to be paramount and its funny how they cannot be made available to the Scott family's attorney. What's also very interesting is how there seems to be more effort into finding dirt on Erik Scott, and questioning his girlfiend about impending legal proceedings. The whole incident with his neighbors dog biting him - the fact that Scott did not shoot the dog shows he has great restraint -What the hey!!!? I'm convinced this is a total cover up attempt - and in "broad daylight". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted September 14, 2010 at 09:58 PM Share Posted September 14, 2010 at 09:58 PM Ok, posting this because this issue can't fade away. Here's the recent article posted in the Las Vegas Review Journal Darker Details Come to Light The police have leaked documents to the press trying to preemptively slander the character of Erik Scott before the Coroner's inquest coming up this month. The video evidence still has not been release, the 911 tapes have not been released. Something sure smells fishy. I post this article to remind us what will happen when and if you need to use a weapon when carrying. The camera will turn on you and your background examined with a fine tooth comb. We've already got enough politics from other "public servants" to deal with. Now the cops are trying to defend their actions by slandering what appears to be an innocent man? That's their defense for using deadly force??? This is crap.You all are right - not much is adding up on this. The only things that makes sense so far is Budman5's "bragging rights" and "war story" comment that can be paased around to bolster someone's manhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooch Posted September 14, 2010 at 11:18 PM Share Posted September 14, 2010 at 11:18 PM New video, on the vigil held at costco for Erik. The status is pretty much the same- video hard drives sent out because of "glitch", and 911 tapes not being released until further notice. http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12960081 Damn......... How come Jessie Jackson is not there? He sure doesn't miss a chance to get his mug on camera here in Rockford concerning the Barmore case......Hmmmmmmm, I wonder what the difference could be? Gooch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted September 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM Share Posted September 14, 2010 at 11:38 PM Ok, posting this because this issue can't fade away. Here's the recent article posted in the Las Vegas Review Journal Darker Details Come to Light The police have leaked documents to the press trying to preemptively slander the character of Erik Scott before the Coroner's inquest coming up this month. The video evidence still has not been release, the 911 tapes have not been released. Something sure smells fishy. I post this article to remind us what will happen when and if you need to use a weapon when carrying. The camera will turn on you and your background examined with a fine tooth comb.I used your link to the article. I read the comments, bghs1986 gave the URL information to get to a press release provided by the video tape company. I entered it but got an error message, probably didn't do something right. Maybe someone else can get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted September 15, 2010 at 12:10 AM Share Posted September 15, 2010 at 12:10 AM Ok, posting this because this issue can't fade away. Here's the recent article posted in the Las Vegas Review Journal Darker Details Come to Light The police have leaked documents to the press trying to preemptively slander the character of Erik Scott before the Coroner's inquest coming up this month. The video evidence still has not been release, the 911 tapes have not been released. Something sure smells fishy. I post this article to remind us what will happen when and if you need to use a weapon when carrying. The camera will turn on you and your background examined with a fine tooth comb.I used your link to the article. I read the comments, bghs1986 gave the URL information to get to a press release provided by the video tape company. I entered it but got an error message, probably didn't do something right. Maybe someone else can get there.Dallas, TX, September 18, 2005 - Virtual Surveillance, market leader in digital video surveillance and management systems, today announced that Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) authorities have chosen Virtual Surveillance’s Enterprise Video Management System (EVMS) in support of its video security enhancement initiatives.The Surveillance system consists of multiple 16-channel DVRs, each with 3.2 Terabytes storage capacity in RAID 5 hot swap configuration to provide redundancy and error correction. In case of a hard disk failure, the video from the failed drive will be replicated onto another disk in the system. In addition, hot swapping allows disks to be replaced while the system is running without interruption or loss of data, in case maintenance is required.“We are pleased to be chosen by DART to help with the enhancement of their surveillance and security system,” said Carol Jones, Marketing Vice President at Virtual Surveillance. “Our digital surveillance systems offer advanced functionalities such as behavior recognition and forensic analysis which are very popular with law enforcement, mass transit authorities and casinos.Virtual Surveillance is an international provider of state-of-the-art intelligent video surveillance systems. Virtual Surveillance is a market leader in digital video surveillance systems used for surveillance and protection of multi-site operations. As a direct importer of digital surveillance and security products, Virtual Surveillance provides extremely competitive pricing while maintaining rigorous product quality and reliability standards.For media inquiries please contact:Ryan Williams972-424-9070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted September 15, 2010 at 03:10 AM Share Posted September 15, 2010 at 03:10 AM Shooting Victim’s Family Requests To See EvidenceCoroner's Inquest Scheduled For Sept. 22 fox5vegas.com/news POSTED: 8:35 am PDT September 9, 2010UPDATED: 6:47 pm PDT September 9, 2010 LAS VEGAS -- An attorney for the family of a Las Vegas man shot by police officers outside a Costco store has filed a motion to preview evidence that will be presented at an upcoming coroner’s inquest hearing. Three police officers are expected to testify at the Sept. 22 hearing into the death of 38-year-old Erik Scott. The officers shot and killed Scott after they said he threatened them with a gun outside the Costco on July 10. Scott’s family argues that he posed no threat and they have accused Metro police of withholding evidence in the case, including surveillance video from the scene. Link: Read The Motion In the motion, attorney Ross Goodman asks a judge to allow the family to inspect the surveillance system at a pre-inquest hearing, citing Sheriff Doug Gillespie’s recent comments that no video of the shooting existed. “Since the video is the best evidence and Metro has had exclusive control over the original hard drive and back-up drive for two months, there is no prejudice in permitting the [scott] family to inspect the video equipment,” Goodman writes. Goodman also on several occasions refers to the recent inquest hearing that found a Metro narcotics detective justified in the shooting a suspected marijuana dealer, Trevon Cole. He contends that Scott’s family “should not suffer the same fate” and argues that much of the language provided to the inquest jury, including the definitions of justifiable, excusable and criminal actions by officers is convoluted. “Absent any judicial intervention to alter this one sided process, the Erik B. Scott inquest will serve as yet another rubber stamp for a system designed to clear officers of any responsibility,” Goodman writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyre400 Posted September 15, 2010 at 03:44 AM Share Posted September 15, 2010 at 03:44 AM There was a girlfriend right beside Erik when it all went down. I really want to hear her testimony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglebob Posted September 15, 2010 at 12:08 PM Share Posted September 15, 2010 at 12:08 PM Just let me have the tapes of the incident and the 911 call and I can make up my mind. No need for the history prior to the incident factual or not.If the newspapers are going to print a "history" of Erik Scott, maybe they should print the "history" of the cops that shot him as well. It might be interesting. Talk to ex-wives if any, ex-girl friends,neighbors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted September 15, 2010 at 12:38 PM Share Posted September 15, 2010 at 12:38 PM Just let me have the tapes of the incident and the 911 call and I can make up my mind. No need for the history prior to the incident factual or not.If the newspapers are going to print a "history" of Erik Scott, maybe they should print the "history" of the cops that shot him as well. It might be interesting. Talk to ex-wives if any, ex-girl friends,neighbors. Excellent point JB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted September 15, 2010 at 12:38 PM Share Posted September 15, 2010 at 12:38 PM What does the stories about his past have to do with the incident in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted September 15, 2010 at 02:03 PM Share Posted September 15, 2010 at 02:03 PM What does the stories about his past have to do with the incident in question? To go a step further, some of this material comes from police files, e.g. the dog bite/attack report. Just how does a police report come to the attention of a news reporter? With a little help from Vegas Metro perhaps? I find it HIGHLY suspicious that a state of the art, high end surveillance system fails to capture a shooting at the entrance of a retail store. Yet Sheriff Gillespie claims that no video of the shooting exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templar223 Posted September 15, 2010 at 03:08 PM Share Posted September 15, 2010 at 03:08 PM Just let me have the tapes of the incident and the 911 call and I can make up my mind. No need for the history prior to the incident factual or not.If the newspapers are going to print a "history" of Erik Scott, maybe they should print the "history" of the cops that shot him as well. It might be interesting. Talk to ex-wives if any, ex-girl friends,neighbors. +1. This is a bad, bad shoot. Those involved need to spend long years in prison. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecker Posted September 15, 2010 at 03:29 PM Share Posted September 15, 2010 at 03:29 PM Just let me have the tapes of the incident and the 911 call and I can make up my mind. No need for the history prior to the incident factual or not.If the newspapers are going to print a "history" of Erik Scott, maybe they should print the "history" of the cops that shot him as well. It might be interesting. Talk to ex-wives if any, ex-girl friends,neighbors. +1. This is a bad, bad shoot. Those involved need to spend long years in prison. John The wagons are certainly being circled. We need to see the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyre400 Posted September 18, 2010 at 12:30 AM Share Posted September 18, 2010 at 12:30 AM http://www.8newsnow.....asp?S=13169661 LAS VEGAS -- According to a letter sent from the Clark County Courts to the family attorney of Erik Scott, the man shot by police outside a Summerlin Costco, the family will not be allowed to view the evidence to be used at the coroner's inquest before the proceeding. In the letter, Staff Attorney Joe Tommasino says county code does not "contain any language that would enable inspection of evidence before the time of the inquest." Read the letter sent to Attorney Ross Goodman The Scott family filed a motion with the court to allow a representative to view the police evidence before the inquest to better prepare for questioning of witnesses. Scott was shot and killed by police while walking out of a Summerlin Costco. Police were called by Costco employees who said he was acting erratically in the store and had a gun. Goodman, meanwhile, said in a statement, "The failure of the presiding officer to respond to the motion granting the victim's family access to the same evidence gathered by Metro and the District Attorney's Office over the last several months proves that this ONE SIDED process is nothing more than a rubber stamp to clear officers of any responsibility in the arena of public opinion. Absent judicial intervention, Metro and the District Attorney's Office are free to present the police version unfettered by any judicial scrutiny guaranteeing another justifiable finding based on reckless conduct. Unfortunately, the Erik B. Scott inquest will serve as nothing more than BAD reality TV at taxpayer's expense." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecker Posted September 20, 2010 at 02:28 PM Share Posted September 20, 2010 at 02:28 PM I had the following sent to me through facebook. For those of you looking for information on Erik's Inquest, you can find it on his memorial website: http://www.erikbscott.com/help.html Be sure to click on the PDF link at the bottom for Viewer's Guide. There is some very useful information there. (CUT AND PASTE FROM WEBSITE) WATCH ERIK SCOTT'S INQUESTWednesday September 22nd - 24th. Location:Beings 10 AM, courtroom 16DRegional Justice Center200 Lewis Avenue Broadcast:Live on Cable Channel 4 (Las Vegas)KSN TV's Digital Ch 123Streaming live on web site www.mynews3.comStreaming live w/ commentary: http://www.ustream.tv/user/IMOErikBScott Coroner's Inquest - A Viewer's GuideThe Viewer's Guide to the Coroner's Inquest is a guide written by the Erik Scott Family and the ACLU of Nevada as a tool for those who are watching a coroner's inquest for the first time. It is intended to give the audience a realistic and factual guide to the limits placed on the families of victim's in the coroner's inquest process, and to further explain the one-sided nature of the process.DOWNLOAD PDF NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted September 20, 2010 at 07:44 PM Share Posted September 20, 2010 at 07:44 PM This all stinks worse than an outhouse basement. I've always wanted to go to Vegas. I'm now rethinking my bucket list. And I will NEVER sped a dime at Costco. Never have......never will. That much is a done deal. Screw you, Costco!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 20, 2010 at 07:48 PM Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 at 07:48 PM This all stinks worse than an outhouse basement. I've always wanted to go to Vegas. I'm now rethinking my bucket list. And I will NEVER sped a dime at Costco. Never have......never will. That much is a done deal. Screw you, Costco!!You said it.!!!!!!!But I wish I had.!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 20, 2010 at 08:20 PM Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 at 08:20 PM Mr. Scott seems to have a lot on the ball and probably does not need any suggestions. In fact, he appears to be allowing the powers that be play out their little song and dance before he takes any offensive actions, which is exactly what he should do, but I would hope that he is preparing a political play as well as a legal approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted September 20, 2010 at 11:48 PM Share Posted September 20, 2010 at 11:48 PM Mr. Scott seems to have a lot on the ball and probably does not need any suggestions. In fact, he appears to be allowing the powers that be play out their little song and dance before he takes any offensive actions, which is exactly what he should do, but I would hope that he is preparing a political play as well as a legal approach. William Scott is not allowing this to be a one-sided publicity blitz. Mr. Scott is letting his findings and feelings be known at http://erikbscottmemorialblog.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecker Posted September 22, 2010 at 06:38 PM Share Posted September 22, 2010 at 06:38 PM Watching the inquest process streaming live right now. Rather interesting even in just the jury selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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