Edgar/Champaign Co RTB Town Hall?
#1
Posted 08 April 2010 - 06:47 AM
However do you think it would be moot point to have such an educational event in an area where we seem have so much support already?
The reason I ask is because I work in Champaign county and have a lot of friends there. Champaign is an area where we have a lot more fence sitters and antis so if we're going to do something in E Central maybe we'd be better off to do it in Champaign. + We have alot bigger media coverage out of Champaign. I am aquainted with the hosts of Holstien & Company radio show on WIXY 100.3, Penny For Your Thoughts on 1400 AM is a great show to get the word out and the host supports the RTB.
The trouble I would run into with Champaign is it's so big I feel a bit overwhlemed as to where to start looking for a suitable and "friendly" location.
So what do you think Paris or Champaign?
I know there are atleast 2 others on here that are in this area, care to jump on and get something going?
Edit To Add: Spoke with Molly B. we've decided if we're going to chose one or the other we'll go Champaign. I look forward to visiting with you next week Molly after the Kane Co. meeting to begin getting the wheels turning. If you folks can help with getting a location I can handle some of the advertising and some of the donations.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#2
Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:24 AM
I see the Champaign co fair is set for July 23-31st so we'd better plan for something before then. So the 8th or the 15th perhaps.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#3
Posted 08 April 2010 - 09:40 AM
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#4
Posted 08 April 2010 - 10:01 AM
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
#5
Posted 08 April 2010 - 10:11 AM
Drylok, on 08 April 2010 - 06:47 AM, said:
However do you think it would be moot point to have such an educational event in an area where we seem have so much support already?
I don't think it would be wasted effort because I think most people that attend these meeting walk away having heard a wealth of factual information and not just hearsay or rhetoric. That means no matter which side of the issue they're on - they will undoubtedly learn something they didn't know regarding RTC, or RTB if you prefer.
I'd say 'GO for it!', and if nothing else, you may educate some folks and they'll discover that Illinois is the very last state that denies it's people the right to self defense. Also, I can't think of any 'downside' to having Indiana LEOs speak in favor of RTB. What could it hurt? I can't think of one thing. I'd say it's a novel idea.
One suggestion I might have is this. As these meetings start spreading throughout the state, we should be adjusting the subtopics within the discussion to the demographics of the area. Meaning, what needs to be covered at length in Chicago - such as simple gun ownership - need not be covered so heavily in rural and southern Illinois. I'm not suggesting drastic changes - just a slight 'tweaking' to tailor the message to the audience.
In you area I would say that while all aspects and subtopics of RTB be covered, we may want to concentrate on electing officials that not only support concealed carry, but will get involved and help pass it! Officials that will take a harder line on the House or Senate floor, that will co-sponsor carry bills, that will go toe to toe with the Chicago Dems to get it passed.
Many people in Illinois support concealed carry. But they're not actively helping to get it passed. Supporting concealed carry is no longer enough. We need people and public officials working to pass concealed carry. That's how we'll get the job done!
but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda,
they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." — Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle
#6
Posted 08 April 2010 - 10:14 AM
Ashdump, on 08 April 2010 - 10:01 AM, said:
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#7
Posted 08 April 2010 - 10:17 AM
Buzzard, on 08 April 2010 - 10:11 AM, said:
Drylok, on 08 April 2010 - 06:47 AM, said:
However do you think it would be moot point to have such an educational event in an area where we seem have so much support already?
I don't think it would be wasted effort because I think most people that attend these meeting walk away having heard a wealth of factual information and not just hearsay or rhetoric. That means no matter which side of the issue they're on - they will undoubtedly learn something they didn't know regarding RTC, or RTB if you prefer.
I'd say 'GO for it!', and if nothing else, you may educate some folks and they'll discover that Illinois is the very last state that denies it's people the right to self defense. Also, I can't think of any 'downside' to having Indiana LEOs speak in favor of RTB. What could it hurt? I can't think of one thing. I'd say it's a novel idea.
One suggestion I might have is this. As these meetings start spreading throughout the state, we should be adjusting the subtopics within the discussion to the demographics of the area. Meaning, what needs to be covered at length in Chicago - such as simple gun ownership - need not be covered so heavily in rural and southern Illinois. I'm not suggesting drastic changes - just a slight 'tweaking' to tailor the message to the audience.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#8
Posted 08 April 2010 - 11:41 PM
Open Carry - Proponent
#9
Posted 09 April 2010 - 09:36 AM
Bird76Mojo, on 08 April 2010 - 11:41 PM, said:
GB
Actually last night I went down to Paris to the jail to get my figner prints for the FL permit. Turns out one of my long lost buddies is now with the Edgar Co. and he and 2 other officers and the deputy who printed me were asking alot of questions about ccw and where we're at on things. It kind of gave me a warm fuzzy feeling to be standing in a jail with 4 police officers talking about how we can't wait for ccw to come to Illinois.
As we were starting to walk out we had been talking about the Diggins case and then the deputy mentioned that "now you can carry on someone elses property if you have permission?" I smiled and said yep the Taurus is in my console and as soon as I step onto my property or where I have permission it comes out of the console and goes right here...and I lifted my shirt tail revealing my IWB. He just smiled and said, "were getting there aren't we?"
It's a whole different world down here.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#10
Posted 09 April 2010 - 11:28 AM
Open Carry - Proponent
#11
Posted 09 April 2010 - 12:19 PM
Bird76Mojo, on 09 April 2010 - 11:28 AM, said:
GB
Well next time your coming down let me know and you can stop by where all those seed signs are at and plink with us. It's kinda hard to see from the hwy but there's a looooong grass strip back behind those buildings. Makes for a great place to shoot
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#12
Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:37 AM
Drylok, on 08 April 2010 - 10:14 AM, said:
You're saying title it "Edgar/Vermilion/Champaign Co. Right To Bear Town Hall"?
use the term "Right to Carry". In recent years that terminology has been adopted by the NRA, the ISRA, and other pro-rights groups and we have been
using it here at IllinoisCarry for quite some time. It is important that citizens, elected officials, and the media see these town hall
meetings as a single message being supported by a grassroots effort all across this state, a growing voice rising up in unison from
Chicago to Cairo, from St.Louis to the Indiana border.
#13
Posted 10 April 2010 - 12:24 PM
Molly B., on 10 April 2010 - 09:37 AM, said:
Drylok, on 08 April 2010 - 10:14 AM, said:
use the term "Right to Carry". In recent years that terminology has been adopted by the NRA, the ISRA, and other pro-rights groups and we have been
using it here at IllinoisCarry for quite some time. It is important that citizens, elected officials, and the media see these town hall
meetings as a single message being supported by a grassroots effort all across this state, a growing voice rising up in unison from
Chicago to Cairo, from St.Louis to the Indiana border.
Besides, I don't want to "bear" a firearm in the sense of "bearing children". Just being able to "carry" the durn thing when I want to would be fine. Kinda' like grandkids!!!
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
#14
Posted 11 April 2010 - 05:14 AM
Well I've just been doing some nosing around in the last couple days about this and have some thoughts, questions and so forth so I'll look forward to talking to you some time this week Molly.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#15
Posted 12 April 2010 - 11:37 AM
I just left a note while at lunch to ask him to call me. I thought I would tell him that we're trying to put together a RTC town hall and ask him if he would speak or atleast make his presence known if we do get something together.
Also one of the guys I work with works part time for Champaign Drug Task Force and he shows interest in attending.
One of my duck huntig buddies is also with Champaign co police and I intend to ask him if he'd be interested in attending.
I also intend to visit with Tim Cripis who is the Edgar Co Sheriff/Pro Carry and ask for his attendance as well.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#16
Posted 30 April 2010 - 08:10 AM
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#17
Posted 01 May 2010 - 11:31 AM
And then we said I can get things set up with the radio stations
Otherwise I have my notes in line and I'm working focusing on location as that is top priority at the moment.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#18
Posted 01 May 2010 - 12:35 PM
Edgar Jul 17-24
Champ Jul 23-31
Verm Jul 31- Aug 7
Douglas Aug
So we need to look at the 8th and 15th of July. Maybe we could get by having it the 22, the night before the Champaign fair starts but my gut says stay away from that.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#19
Posted 01 May 2010 - 12:43 PM
AB
The Roman Empire fell due to a large, corrupt government, overspending, an overextended military, insecure borders, and the illegal immigration of Goths, barbarians (anyone who was not educated), and religious fanatics. Sound familiar?
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
Luke 11:21 - "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed." NASB
#20
Posted 03 May 2010 - 07:59 AM
Bowyer Seed Co. (committed 100)
Rogers Farms (committed 100)
Pizza Man (committed 20)
Rural King
Log Cabin (committed)
Chrisman Farm Center
Knights Insurance
John Deere Sloan Impliment
True Value
Daves Firearms (committed, Donating Taurus pistol)
Sutton Firearms (says can't make it, but he'll consider donation)
Larson Woodyard & Henson Eric Bradom (committed probally 100)
Champaign Co. Sportsman Club
2. Speakers
A.Valinda Rowe (illinois carry)
B. Mike Weisman, 1st VP of the ISRA
C.Todd Vandermyde (NRA)
D. David Pike President Of GSL(Based in Champaign)
E. One of the Co Sheriffs to speak on behalf of all four because they're all Pro carry
(1)Note:Sheriff Walsh says send him letter siting date,time, location
(2)Note: Just had a really good conversation with Douglas Co. Sheriff McGrew. He says he would most certainly attend so long as the sheriff in the hosting county will attend. He also commented that he is good friends with Vermilion co sheriff for 30 years now.
(3)Note: Sheriff Cripis called back 5/3 very enthusiastic said let him know when and where and he'll be there. Also suggested asking Sheriff Shothorn to speak because he is actively pro carry and has the most tenure of the 4 of them.
(4)Note: Sctman800 spooke with Vermillion co sheriff Shothorn, said he was very enthusiastic about speaking at the town hall.
F.Sheriff From IN
(1)Note: got a lead on Vermilion co and Boone co sheriffs in IN.
3.Media outlets
WIXY 100.3
WDWS 1400
98.5
Tuscola Journal
Paris Beacon
Need One In Danville
Champaign News Gazzete
4.Date/Location
Need to look at July 8,15,22 to avoid county fairs and other community events
Hanford Inn
Note:Plenty of room all 3 dates available. She said should talk to Mic Cauffman, might be able to get discount price.
I-Hotel
Note:Left message
Hilton Garden Inn
Note: Spoke with Thai on 5/1, 2 rooms available 7/8 and 7/15 one holds 350 other 1,000 but pricey
Having trouble contacting a union hall
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#21
Posted 06 May 2010 - 11:59 AM
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#22
Posted 09 May 2010 - 11:17 AM
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#23
Posted 09 May 2010 - 10:38 PM
Drylok, on 09 May 2010 - 11:17 AM, said:
Yes, Thanks Sctman!
"Though they plot evil against you and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed; for you will make them turn their backs when you aim at them with drawn bow." -- Book of Psalms, Ch. 21 Vs. 11 & 12
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
— Frederick Douglass, civil rights activist, Aug. 4, 1857
#24
Posted 10 May 2010 - 06:31 AM
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#25
Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:22 AM
Things To Be Sure To Have For Tonights GSL Presentation On RTC Town Hall:
The list of 4 steps Valinda gave me to accomplish, listing the things that have been acomplished and things we need help with.
A list of all of the RTC town halls that we've already have and the schedule for the ones coming up
Extra cash for GSL raffle tickets
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#26
Posted 12 May 2010 - 12:40 PM
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#27
Posted 13 May 2010 - 07:41 AM
Also I spoke with Tiffany Harkin at the Round Barn yesturday. I told her that one of the members of GSL/illinois carry recommended them and that we are having a hard time finding a "friendly" place that will work out a deal for this important event. She is going to talk with the owner because she's hopeful that we can work something out. Hope to hear from them today.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#28
Posted 19 May 2010 - 06:22 AM
Ol Coach and Valinda came up with Hawthorne Suites, $500 and sound system.
Make a follow up call and try to make arrangments to stop and check it out today 5/19
Moving date from July 15 to July 12
Got 2 more donation commitments yesturday Chrisman Farm Center & Wilson Farms
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#29
Posted 20 May 2010 - 07:17 AM
Right To Carry Educational Town Hall Meeting
will be Monday July 12, 7:00 pm at Hawthorn Suite in Champaign
Leann at Upclose is going to send the proof of the raffle tickets tomorrow. We're going with 500 chances for a Taurus 85 stainless at $5 ea. or 3 for $10
I will be collecting donations tomorrow from Larson Woodyard & Hennson, Pizza Man, Log Cabin, Wilson Farms, Bowyer Seed and Rogers Farms. I can either mail them to you Valinda or drop them off for Uncle AB when I go down to Shelbyville to fish next weekend.
My little sister is pretty handy with graphics designing so she is going to make the fliers. I want to make sure it's something that really stands out which the illinois carry logo does but I may add something else.
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
#30
Posted 20 May 2010 - 07:56 AM
Edgar County:
Front St. Market
Rural King
CFS
IGA
Wal-Mart
Family Video
Caseys (3)
NAPA
Bowyer Seed
Suttons Firearms (stack)
Monicals
Pizza Hut
McCowns Gun Club
Brocton Fest(June)
Douglas County:
Pizza Man
J&Ts
Country Junction
Log Cabin
IGA
True Value
Monicals
Prouds
Newman Festivlle (maybe a spot in the parade?)
Vermillion County:
Harley Davidson
Champaign County:
Daves Firearms
Caseys (4)
Wallmart (2)
Champaign Co Sportsman Club
Farm & Fleet
Rural King
Menards
Lowes
Gold and Diamond Exchange
Hunters Haven
Andre's Harley Davidson
-Thomas Jefferson-
Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red, the white, the blue. The other ones got a rattle snake with a simple statement made, don't tread on me, is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
-Aaron Lewis-
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