Seems unlikely to ever see any of the 23 prohibited places removed

[vito]

With all of the effort on just stopping further erosion of our gun rights, I doubt that any time soon, or within my lifetime, we might see some relief from the list of 23 prohibited places listed in the concealed carry law. I have not even read of a single Republican candidate, let alone a Democrat, talking about making our gun rights more reasonable by, for example, eliminating the prohibition on carrying concealed on public transportation or in parks, or museums, or sporting events, or athletic field, etc, etc. Maybe some politician would try for even a tiny improvement, like eliminating the prohibition on guns in Cook County forest preserves on the basis that the rest of the state's forest preserves allow for concealed carry and that this has not proved to be problematic. One can at least hope. Or are the Republicans, even in "safe" districts, too timid to even raise any pro-gun issue in their political life?

[solareclipse2]

Shrug. I just don't make it a habit of going to any of the statutorily prohibited places except the hospital/doctor and I don't do business with posted places that aren't statutorily prohibited. I stopped going to one of my favorite dives for two years because they were posted.

[cybermgk]

I suspect a test case will be needed. Say, a person carries on a Metra or CTA train/bus, saves a bunch of lives, get's charged, fights it as unconstitutional.

[Odinson]

I suspect a test case will be needed. Say, a person carries on a Metra or CTA train/bus, saves a bunch of lives, get's charged, fights it as unconstitutional.

Or more likely, a CCL holder gets killed on the CTA because they are law abiding and have their firearm at home or in a case with the magazine sitting next to it.

 

Then their relatives fight it as unconstitutional.

[bmyers]

Vito,

 

I would of never thought in my lifetime that Illinois would of carry license, so I don't give up hope so easy anymore.

[cybermgk]

 

I suspect a test case will be needed. Say, a person carries on a Metra or CTA train/bus, saves a bunch of lives, get's charged, fights it as unconstitutional.

Or more likely, a CCL holder gets killed on the CTA because they are law abiding and have their firearm at home or in a case with the magazine sitting next to it.

 

Then their relatives fight it as unconstitutional.

 

Maybe. I see that scenario being more of a civil suit, than a constitutional challenge

[Jeffrey]

I suspect a test case will be needed. Say, a person carries on a Metra or CTA train/bus, saves a bunch of lives, get's charged, fights it as unconstitutional.

This. After all, that is how we got to where we are today. Until Madigan is pushing daisies don't expect anything. Even after he's been dirt napping chances are little will change.

[InterestedBystander]

As with so many others, bills are filed and sent to rules/assignments where Madigan and J Cullerton let them die.

 

HB0666 CONCEALED CARRY-CK CTY FOREST

HB2684 CONCEAL CARRY-PUBLIC TRANSPORT

HB2934 CONCEALED CARRY-REST AREA

HB3231 CONCEALED CARRY-PARKS

HB5313 CONCEAL CARRY-PUBLIC TRANSPORT

SB1302 CONCEALED CARRY-DOT REST AREAS

SB1303 CONCEAL CARRY-PUBLIC TRANSPORT

SB1711 CONCEALED CARRY-REST AREA

SB1877 CONCEALED CARRY-PARKS

SB2634 CONCEALED CARRY-REST AREA

[Glock23]

As with so many others, bills are filed and sent to rules/assignments where Madigan and J Cullerton let them die.

HB0666 CONCEALED CARRY-CK CTY FOREST

HB2684 CONCEAL CARRY-PUBLIC TRANSPORT

HB2934 CONCEALED CARRY-REST AREA

HB3231 CONCEALED CARRY-PARKS

HB5313 CONCEAL CARRY-PUBLIC TRANSPORT

SB1302 CONCEALED CARRY-DOT REST AREAS

SB1303 CONCEAL CARRY-PUBLIC TRANSPORT

SB1711 CONCEALED CARRY-REST AREA

SB2634 CONCEALED CARRY-REST AREA

That right there.

 

If Madigan and Cullerton don't let them pass through the committees, there's nothing that can be done.

 

You could submit a perfectly reasonable pro-gun bill every single day... but they're all at the mercy of those two guys.

[wtr100]

until either

 

1. the republican party takes over and grows a spine

 

or

 

2. some federal judge orders it

 

It's not likely we'll see improvements - but you fight on anyways I guess

[Odinson]

 

 

I suspect a test case will be needed. Say, a person carries on a Metra or CTA train/bus, saves a bunch of lives, get's charged, fights it as unconstitutional.

Or more likely, a CCL holder gets killed on the CTA because they are law abiding and have their firearm at home or in a case with the magazine sitting next to it.

 

Then their relatives fight it as unconstitutional.

 

Maybe. I see that scenario being more of a civil suit, than a constitutional challenge

 

IANAL but wasn't Mary Shephard attacked and unable to defend herself with a firearm due to dumb laws that have since been changed due to her lawsuit against IL?

[mic6010]

Yep, you would need a sacrificial lamb and lots of public support/outrage to move those bills along in this state

[BobPistol]

until either

 

1. the republican party takes over and grows a spine

 

First we need a republican party in Illinois. If only we could find it.

[Gamma]

Prohibited places are a feel-good for the ignorant mob.

 

The easy solution is Missouri's - leave them in (for the most part) and just remove the penalty.

 

The mass transit ban does need to be removed though, as it's clearly too burdensome, and at a practical level, is motivated by racism.

[tkroenlein]

Folks, those of you in more hostile territory anyway, need to realize that in much of the state, only those places like schools and courthouses are posted now.

 

I know a lot of people believe the carry law was very sloppy, but I'll disagree again. It is very permissive where gun owners aren't treated like lepers.

[soylentgreen]

As was said, I never thought I'd see CCL in Illinois...much less a shall issue law. And, it was triggered by action of the court. I imagine if any areas on the prohibited list were removed, it would likely be a similar case. Someone with a CCL is in a prohibited area without their gun (as required by law) and becomes the victim of an attack of some sort and sues the state for stripping them of their right to self defense. I don't see how the court could rule against the victim based on existing case law.

[cola490]

As was said, I never thought I'd see CCL in Illinois...much less a shall issue law. And, it was triggered by action of the court. I imagine if any areas on the prohibited list were removed, it would likely be a similar case. Someone with a CCL is in a prohibited area without their gun (as required by law) and becomes the victim of an attack of some sort and sues the state for stripping them of their right to self defense. I don't see how the court could rule against the victim based on existing case law.

I agree, someone will have to get hurt, like Mary Shepard, before this state will do anything.

[soylentgreen]

 

As was said, I never thought I'd see CCL in Illinois...much less a shall issue law. And, it was triggered by action of the court. I imagine if any areas on the prohibited list were removed, it would likely be a similar case. Someone with a CCL is in a prohibited area without their gun (as required by law) and becomes the victim of an attack of some sort and sues the state for stripping them of their right to self defense. I don't see how the court could rule against the victim based on existing case law.

I agree, someone will have to get hurt, like Mary Shepard, before this state will do anything.

 

 

*Before the state is FORCED to do something.

[Odinson]

Great. Glad the last posters agree with me. I would like to live to 100 though, before I become this particular test case.

[wtr100]

Yep, you would need a sacrificial lamb and lots of public support/outrage to move those bills along in this state

 

Courts - I see zero good happening in the legislature w/o a federal court ordering it

[armadroid]

if anything they will add more restrictions.