InterestedBystander Posted January 20, 2020 at 06:17 PM Share Posted January 20, 2020 at 06:17 PM Did not see this one posted HB4019 CONCEAL CARRY-WAIVER-MARKSMAN filed 1/6/20 http://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=4019&GAID=15&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=122712&SessionID=108&G Synopsis As IntroducedAmends the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Provides that notwithstanding any other provision of the Act, the fee for a new license or non-resident license shall be waived if the applicant is an honorably discharged member of the Armed Forces of the United States who has been awarded a marksmanship badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 20, 2020 at 06:21 PM Share Posted January 20, 2020 at 06:21 PM I'll make sure it's in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted January 20, 2020 at 08:43 PM Share Posted January 20, 2020 at 08:43 PM Retro active so to speakI’m in for two refunds LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted January 20, 2020 at 09:50 PM Share Posted January 20, 2020 at 09:50 PM It says new license, does that cover recerts???? It says awarded a marksmanship badge? Doesn't all military qualify with a weapon?? I know I am old school but, really????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevis Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:43 PM Share Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:43 PM It says new license, does that cover recerts???? It says awarded a marksmanship badge? Doesn't all military qualify with a weapon?? I know I am old school but, really?????What about equal protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:44 PM Share Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:44 PM I am tired of carve outs. Obviously the fees (tax) we pay to exercise a constitutional right is excessive, as observed by the sweeping of over $28 million dollars from the ISP FSB funds. The fees for a new or renewal license should be drastically reduced for EVERYONE. I have nothing but the upmost respect for the military. I'm the father of a USMC veteran who served in Afghanistan. With that being said, I still disagree with these carve outs and I can't support this legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:51 PM Share Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:51 PM I am tired of carve outs. Obviously the fees (tax) we pay to exercise a constitutional right is excessive, as observed by the sweeping of over $28 million dollars from the ISP FSB funds. The fees for a new or renewal license should be drastically reduced for EVERYONE. I have nothing but the upmost respect for the military. I'm the father of a USMC veteran who served in Afghanistan. With that being said, I still disagree with these carve outs and I can't support this legislation. I'm with you 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:57 PM Share Posted January 20, 2020 at 10:57 PM I should get it for free too, I kept your lights on for 35+ years while the kids were playing in the sandbox. Carve outs are NOT the answer, ever. We should have no class of super citizens, or upper citizens. Rights for one, rights for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod Posted January 20, 2020 at 11:31 PM Share Posted January 20, 2020 at 11:31 PM As I recall, everybody that went to the range got a Marksman badge, you had to actually hit the target a few times to get a Sharpshooter badge and it wasn't too hard to get an Expert badge. Of course this was way back when and with an M1. But I agree with those against it, no special give aways. You already get 8 hours credit for serving in the military. (Which after I wrote it, realized that it is a give away). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted January 21, 2020 at 12:42 AM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 12:42 AM I got the expert marksman medal in JROTC ... and it carried at the time into the active military if you joined. I demand fairness!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeghl Posted January 21, 2020 at 12:59 AM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 12:59 AM It says new license, does that cover recerts???? It says awarded a marksmanship badge? Doesn't all military qualify with a weapon?? I know I am old school but, really?????As I was informed by my cousin, an instructor at Great Lakes. Boot instructors at Great Lakes would select one recruit, and put the rest of the class into a bunker with a bullet proof glass between them and the selectee. The selected boot would be allowed to shoot 1 (one) round from an M9 (beretta 92) at a berm while the rest of the class watched. That was 'firearms training' for the navy. Then they would all march off to learn how to do some airman, seaman, fireman stuff. That was it. 98+% of Navy personnel never touched a firearm during their service. Recruits in the Coast Guard got more firearms training and practice during their terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod Posted January 21, 2020 at 03:10 AM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 03:10 AM It says new license, does that cover recerts???? It says awarded a marksmanship badge? Doesn't all military qualify with a weapon?? I know I am old school but, really?????As I was informed by my cousin, an instructor at Great Lakes. Boot instructors at Great Lakes would select one recruit, and put the rest of the class into a bunker with a bullet proof glass between them and the selectee. The selected boot would be allowed to shoot 1 (one) round from an M9 (beretta 92) at a berm while the rest of the class watched. That was 'firearms training' for the navy. Then they would all march off to learn how to do some airman, seaman, fireman stuff. That was it. 98+% of Navy personnel never touched a firearm during their service. Recruits in the Coast Guard got more firearms training and practice during their terms. When I took basic training (1960 Army) we qualified with the M1, the M1 carbine, 1911 .45, hand grenades & bayonet. We got to shoot a .30 cal machine gun and the best of all the M2 .50 cal machine gun, the most fun I ever had in the Army. Then the M14 in 1962 in Germany after the 'Wall' went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 21, 2020 at 03:50 AM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 03:50 AM I am tired of carve outs. Obviously the fees (tax) we pay to exercise a constitutional right is excessive, as observed by the sweeping of over $28 million dollars from the ISP FSB funds. The fees for a new or renewal license should be drastically reduced for EVERYONE. I have nothing but the upmost respect for the military. I'm the father of a USMC veteran who served in Afghanistan. With that being said, I still disagree with these carve outs and I can't support this legislation.+1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 21, 2020 at 03:52 AM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 03:52 AM I should get it for free too, I kept your lights on for 35+ years while the kids were playing in the sandbox. Carve outs are NOT the answer, ever. We should have no class of super citizens, or upper citizens. Rights for one, rights for all.+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 21, 2020 at 05:27 AM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 05:27 AM I am tired of carve outs. Obviously the fees (tax) we pay to exercise a constitutional right is excessive, as observed by the sweeping of over $28 million dollars from the ISP FSB funds. The fees for a new or renewal license should be drastically reduced for EVERYONE.I have nothing but the upmost respect for the military. I'm the father of a USMC veteran who served in Afghanistan. With that being said, I still disagree with these carve outs and I can't support this legislation.+1. +2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted January 21, 2020 at 05:54 AM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 05:54 AM I am tired of carve outs. Obviously the fees (tax) we pay to exercise a constitutional right is excessive, as observed by the sweeping of over $28 million dollars from the ISP FSB funds. The fees for a new or renewal license should be drastically reduced for EVERYONE. I have nothing but the upmost respect for the military. I'm the father of a USMC veteran who served in Afghanistan. With that being said, I still disagree with these carve outs and I can't support this legislation. +1. +2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billzfx4 Posted January 21, 2020 at 05:39 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 05:39 PM I'd like a special waiver for people born on a Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted January 21, 2020 at 05:47 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 05:47 PM I'd like a special waiver for people born on a Wednesday.Add in Thursday-born nonresidents and you got a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted January 21, 2020 at 06:57 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 06:57 PM No charge and instant issuance for illegal aliens ... er, Undocumented Americans. (Barf.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 21, 2020 at 07:02 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 07:02 PM What about people who are medical professional? Can that be amended in? I can understand the training part (service counts towards hours), but when it becomes a financial issue, NO GO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 21, 2020 at 07:27 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 07:27 PM Here, THIS is a bill I’m sure everyone would be on board with. Imagine the antis trying to explain their stance against it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 21, 2020 at 08:44 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 08:44 PM Here, THIS is a bill I’m sure everyone would be on board with. Imagine the antis trying to explain their stance against it Interesting, does Smollett qualify? Or is it only when the assailant is caught and convicted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 21, 2020 at 08:48 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 08:48 PM Here, THIS is a bill Im sure everyone would be on board with. Imagine the antis trying to explain their stance against it Interesting, does Smollett qualify? Or is it only when the assailant is caught and convicted?Women only (as they are not as strong as their male attackers in most cases) And I didnt think that far ahead, its just an example of a bill that would be a heck of an interesting time to watch the antis try and sink it. And their saying (#NEVERAGAIN) goes into play here as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 21, 2020 at 08:54 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 08:54 PM Women only (as they are not as strong as their male attackers in most cases) What if I identify as a woman for this purpose? Or is the sponsor openly racist, sexist and anti-LGBT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 21, 2020 at 09:44 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 09:44 PM Women only (as they are not as strong as their male attackers in most cases) What if I identify as a woman for this purpose? Or is the sponsor openly racist, sexist and anti-LGBT?Change your gender legally and you’re GTG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted January 21, 2020 at 10:26 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 10:26 PM I identify as a transgender lesbian giraffe; don't I qualify for free licensing and zoo upkeep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 21, 2020 at 10:37 PM Share Posted January 21, 2020 at 10:37 PM I identify as a transgender lesbian giraffe; don't I qualify for free licensing and zoo upkeep?You qualify for taxpayer funded housing at the zoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 22, 2020 at 01:17 AM Share Posted January 22, 2020 at 01:17 AM Change your gender legally and you’re GTG! Not necessary in Illinois http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=077500050HArt.+1&ActID=2266&ChapterID=64&SeqStart=100000&SeqEnd=600000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 22, 2020 at 01:23 AM Share Posted January 22, 2020 at 01:23 AM Change your gender legally and you’re GTG! Not necessary in Illinois http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=077500050HArt.+1&ActID=2266&ChapterID=64&SeqStart=100000&SeqEnd=600000Well, seems that anyone that has ever been a victim of a documented crime involving domestic battery or sexual assault qualifies for waived CCL fee under my bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted January 22, 2020 at 03:04 AM Share Posted January 22, 2020 at 03:04 AM I had a moment like Dr. Ford. I was a mere lad when Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein found me in the park .. no fees!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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